I just got the ship and am going to fly it tomorrow night. As I read it the title allows me to-

Fire once out the front arc at 3 dice.

or

Fire once out the front arc at 2 dice, and once out the back arc at 2 dice.

or

Fire twice out the back arc at 2 dice.

(Not counting range, etc..)

Is that correct?

You are close but the last one is off. If you don't shoot out of your primary arc the title doesn't activate.

You can:

1. Take a three dice shot out the front.

2. Take a two dice shot out the front and a two dice shot out the back.

3. Take a two dice shot out the back.

You are close but the last one is off. If you don't shoot out of your primary arc the title doesn't activate.

You can:

1. Take a three dice shot out the front.

2. Take a two dice shot out the front and a two dice shot out the back.

3. Take a two dice shot out the back.

Gotcha. I was confused about whether the "do not" reference the attack, or the additonal dice.

Thanks!

It's the whole condition; the card itself only applies "when attacking with your primary weapon from your primary firing arc".

If you're not doing that (because your first declared target is in your auxiliary arc), then Special Forces Training has no effect, so the rest of the wording doesn't matter.

You are close but the last one is off. If you don't shoot out of your primary arc the title doesn't activate.

You can:

1. Take a three dice shot out the front.

2. Take a two dice shot out the front and a two dice shot out the back.

3. Take a two dice shot out the back.

4: Take a two dice shot out the front, ignoring the title entirely, though it would be rare that you'd want to.

You are close but the last one is off. If you don't shoot out of your primary arc the title doesn't activate.

You can:

1. Take a three dice shot out the front.

2. Take a two dice shot out the front and a two dice shot out the back.

3. Take a two dice shot out the back.

4: Take a two dice shot out the front, ignoring the title entirely, though it would be rare that you'd want to.

" I've decided today to only tickle you to death so I shall only be throwing 2 dice "

Depends on the "lightened frame" ability - if throwing the extra red die is actually going to make the shot worse, you might choose not to.

Or you might be trying to wing but not kill your target because it has a deadman's switch.

i was confused with this one as well..... thought it might have been covered in the new faq

The card is worded perfectly and does not need further clarification. BUT, I was totally at a loss when I first read it as well. You need to first think of the SF Tie like a little baby Firespray that rolls 2 dice instead of three. The SF can do the same things the Firespray can. Shoot out the front or the back rolling two dice either way. Now re-read the title and it should make more sense.

But I do get range bonus and malus on the rear arc, right?

But I do get range bonus and malus on the rear arc, right?

Yes, it's a primary weapon.

Yes. An auxiliary arc is a legal 'extra bit' you can shoot your primary weapon through, with all the normal rules for 'being in arc' - so it shuts down autothrusters or outmaneuver, allows people to trigger fearlessness or old teroch, and so on.

But not missles from aux right?

At least I'm not the only one who read it like that. Whew.

Not sure why people keep thinking its a doublefire out the ass. The title does nothing out of the aux arc on its own, it only buffs your front arc or enables splitfiring out of both arcs, which ive done quite a bit to great effect via Backdraft (since i want to shoot out of my ass anyway, might as well get a freebee out the front!).

Even in a local escal tourny i had people sit there waiting for the 2nd shot out the rear.

But not missles from aux right?

Correct.

Missiles are the fifth option. Missiles from font arc only.

But I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually suggest equipping a missile to a /sf.

Nooooo lol. Literally the only one i'd ever even THINK about putting on an SF is an ion missile because it sets up for the next round. But SFs are pricy as it is, dont add to that.

Mechanically the best way to think about it is this:

The TIE/sf is, by default, an aux arc ship. It shoots with its primary value (2 dice) out either its front or back arc. The baby Firespray comparison is a good one.

The title gives it a choice of two bonuses if it shoots out the front,

• Roll an extra die on the frontal attack.
• Get a bonus attack out the back.

If thematically works better, then like this:

The TIE/sf's default attack represents the swivel turret on the bottom: it can fire forwards or backwards at two dice. The title represents the TIE/fo chin cannons built into the cockpit which you may use on any attack: you can choose to only use the turret if you wish.

The chin cannons are fixed mounts and therefore always fire forward. If the chin cannons and turret both fire forward they combine into a three die attack. If the turret aims backwards the chin guns make their own two die attack before the turret fires.

Not sure why people keep thinking its a doublefire out the ass. The title does nothing out of the aux arc on its own, it only buffs your front arc or enables splitfiring out of both arcs, which ive done quite a bit to great effect via Backdraft (since i want to shoot out of my ass anyway, might as well get a freebee out the front!).

Even in a local escal tourny i had people sit there waiting for the 2nd shot out the rear.

Consider-

"When attacking with a primary weapon from your primary firing arc, you may​ roll one additional attack dice. If you do not, you may perform an additional attack from your auxillary firing arc."

If you do not attack? If you do not add a dice?

In addition to the regular attack out the aft? In addition to the attack out the front?

I

Not sure why people keep thinking its a doublefire out the ass. The title does nothing out of the aux arc on its own, it only buffs your front arc or enables splitfiring out of both arcs, which ive done quite a bit to great effect via Backdraft (since i want to shoot out of my ass anyway, might as well get a freebee out the front!).

Even in a local escal tourny i had people sit there waiting for the 2nd shot out the rear.

Consider-

"When attacking with a primary weapon from your primary firing arc, you may​ roll one additional attack dice. If you do not, you may perform an additional attack from your auxillary firing arc."

If you do not attack? If you do not add a dice?

In addition to the regular attack out the aft? In addition to the attack out the front?

If you don't add the extra die.

Mechanically the best way to think about it is this:

The TIE/sf is, by default, an aux arc ship. It shoots with its primary value (2 dice) out either its front or back arc. The baby Firespray comparison is a good one.

The title gives it a choice of two bonuses if it shoots out the front,

• Roll an extra die on the frontal attack.
• Get a bonus attack out the back.

If thematically works better, then like this:

The TIE/sf's default attack represents the swivel turret on the bottom: it can fire forwards or backwards at two dice. The title represents the TIE/fo chin cannons built into the cockpit which you may use on any attack: you can choose to only use the turret if you wish.

The chin cannons are fixed mounts and therefore always fire forward. If the chin cannons and turret both fire forward they combine into a three die attack. If the turret aims backwards the chin guns make their own two die attack before the turret fires.

It's the other way round - the printed 2-die primary are the chin guns. The title represents a turret, manned by a second crewmember - he can either add firepower to the front (extra die) or shoot to the back independently of the chin guns (second attack).

Not sure why people keep thinking its a doublefire out the ass. The title does nothing out of the aux arc on its own, it only buffs your front arc or enables splitfiring out of both arcs, which ive done quite a bit to great effect via Backdraft (since i want to shoot out of my ass anyway, might as well get a freebee out the front!).

Even in a local escal tourny i had people sit there waiting for the 2nd shot out the rear.

Consider-

"When attacking with a primary weapon from your primary firing arc, you may​ roll one additional attack dice. If you do not, you may perform an additional attack from your auxillary firing arc."

If you do not attack? If you do not add a dice?

In addition to the regular attack out the aft? In addition to the attack out the front?

If the initial attack is from the auxilary arc then the title doesn't trigger at all. The activation condition is attacking from the primary arc.

When attacking from the primary arc you can add an extra attack die. If you don't add that die when attacking from the primary arc you can make a second attack out of the auxilary arc.

I see the intepretation that'd allow dual backfiring, which would be reading it as "If you do not attack with a primary weapon from your primary firing arc" instead of "If you do not roll an additional attack die when firing from your primary firing arc". That intepretation would prevent you from firing once in each direction however. It's also an incorrect intepretation.

The clue is in the first sentence.

Make 1 3 die attack from the primary(Front) arc

Make 1 2 die attack from Primary and then make a 2 die attack from the Auxiliary(Rear) arc

Make 1 2 die attack from the Auxiliary arc.

These are your options. No 2 shot butt attacks, you only get a second shot if you shoot to your front first.

Nooooo lol. Literally the only one i'd ever even THINK about putting on an SF is an ion missile because it sets up for the next round. But SFs are pricy as it is, dont add to that.

Not a bad idea for a generic, or quickdraw if you want to use her as mini-dengar rather than a kamikaze