Is Dodonna the best ever?

By Crabbok, in Star Wars: Armada

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He's a boss, for sure.

Any rebel team at the team tournament without a Dodanna are a group of suckers.

Or they have a swarm list with Mon Mothma and Cracken. Only a sucker would pass up THAT opportunity.

Which one would take which commander? Each player only gets the benefit of his own commander, the abilities don't combine for the whole team.

MC30s with Mon Mothma, TCR90s with Cracken. Evil ensues.

I strongly disagree Dodonna fits into every fleet.

I've been playing TRC Vettes with 8xYT-2400 lately. The vettes don't want to use him because they flip to double hits, and the YTs can't use him. He is literally the worst possible commander choice for my list.

I think he is very overrated. His ability is rarely useful (always entertaining, but that doesn't mean it has a marginal impact on your probability of winning) and most fleets that take Dodonna would be better off finding the 5 points to take Garm, as buckets of tokens and the positional/speed ambiguity on turn 1 (because you already have your nav token and can actually use the nav command) are more valuable than people think, as Shmitty alluded to earlier.

I strongly disagree Dodonna fits into every fleet.

I've been playing TRC Vettes with 8xYT-2400 lately. The vettes don't want to use him because they flip to double hits, and the YTs can't use him. He is literally the worst possible commander choice for my list.

I think he is very overrated. His ability is rarely useful (always entertaining, but that doesn't mean it has a marginal impact on your probability of winning) and most fleets that take Dodonna would be better off finding the 5 points to take Garm, as buckets of tokens and the positional/speed ambiguity on turn 1 (because you already have your nav token and can actually use the nav command) are more valuable than people think, as Shmitty alluded to earlier.

Garm isn't useful in fleets that take CR90 and GR75. More useful in large command fleets, so I disagree that Garm is better than Dodonna in most fleets. Dodonna is amazing in bomber fleets, especially when your objectives are tailored to benefit bombers -Precision Strike and Superior Positions- and Precision Strike gives you a CF token, therefore nullifying Garms ability, because if you have bombers, you likely have BCC on your 1 command GR75.

All commanders have their place, but saying one is better than another in most fleets isn't true. Both of us can make countless examples of where each commander is good in a fleet, or bad in another.

I like Dodonna because I love bomber fleets, and Garm would do poorly because I lose my 8 point bid, and he is useless on 2 of my ships. And I run Raymus on a Liberty, so again, Garm isn't doing much for me.

I think the OP was trying to say Dodonna is great because he is a generalist. He can fit into any fleet because they all benefit in some way from his ability without having to do anything. TRC90 can get some use by switching to crit, and dropping an amazing crit onto a ship. He may not be the best for TRC90s but they can get some use out of them.

Edited by Undeadguy

He's most definitely my admiral of choice, but I think Riekan might be better. Both change fundamental aspects of the game, but Riekan can drastically change strategy and core mechanics to the point of being ridiculous.

I want an empire version of him. Glad swarm with APT would be a blast.. Season with Demo for fun triple taping face up dmg cards

I want an empire version of him. Glad swarm with APT would be a blast.. Season with Demo for fun triple taping face up dmg cards

I think that is the reason the Imps don't have one of him. Just like there is no Rebel version of Tagge, think of what his ability would to for TCR90's.

Dodonna is an oppressor, and must be eliminated.

D is my go to. Dodona's Pride, Luke, MC30 with APT, and that's not even counting a big hitter yet.

He's a boss, for sure.

Any rebel team at the team tournament without a Dodanna are a group of suckers.

Or they have a swarm list with Mon Mothma and Cracken. Only a sucker would pass up THAT opportunity.

Which one would take which commander? Each player only gets the benefit of his own commander, the abilities don't combine for the whole team.

This is true for abilities that affect "friendly" ships, since Dodona affect opponents it was ruled last year that both opponents suffer from his effect.

My own personal feelings on Dodonna; I love him when I'm stretched for points (always nowadays). I also love him with APTs, and while some of you say you haven't seen him change the outcome of a game, I've had half a dozen or more games where I killed a ship due to a Structural Damage I wouldn't have gotten otherwise. I've even had games were the legendary projector misaligned was pulled against a full health Liberty, which allowed for a one turn kill.

Granted there are games I wish I had another admiral, and if I have a fleet that can find a better admiral who fits it's playstyle better I'll usually go for the upgrade. However sometimes you just need the ole' 20 point fallback, and sometimes you have a fleet that no other admiral would improve enough to be worth the points upgrade.

Edited by JJs Juggernaut

Just started to use DoDonna. With a TRC90 with dononna pride. Yavaris and a large squad of bombers. I love giving out damage cards.

Just started to use DoDonna. With a TRC90 with dononna pride. Yavaris and a large squad of bombers. I love giving out damage cards.

Since Dodonna's pride triggers off blue crits, that's not ideal.

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Just started to use DoDonna. With a TRC90 with dononna pride. Yavaris and a large squad of bombers. I love giving out damage cards.

Since Dodonna's pride triggers off blue crits, that's not ideal.

I think he meant they were distinct ships, but the punctuation is a bit off. Otherwise he'd have like a 150 point bid if he only had a trc90 and yavaris with bombers

Edited by MandalorianMoose

No I think he's talking about only one ship. But yeah nothing sent that combo works