Need a location post Endor for a Story

By incinerator950, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

It's not RP per say, but I figure this would be a better place than posting it in a off topic board. I'm working on a story for an Imperial Pilot descending from a noble house. Starting from before Endor until after, I need a relative home planet for him. There are kinks based on which timeline I use for the story though.

If using the EU, the planet will be a Core/Deep Core planet turned Fortress world. This is probably going to be the easier option, as I'm fairly certain the NR struggled to handle most of them until the Gav-Pal treaty. This is more of a home and return location.

In relevence to the DC, I have a harder time using this timeline. I'm only familiar with the Empire surrendering and staying in the Core and Inner rim, I haven't followed any of the new canon. The tricky part is deciding what happens, as the end is going to be somewhere in the Outer Rim with Imperial sympathizers breaking away to form their own state. Or it's going to be a border world by the DMZ that reistablishes their old territory and breaks away from both the Empire and Republic.

It's not a case of Finn, but more like Ulfric. The end result is going to be something of a combination of Skyrim and Kovir and Poviss, using some instances of Israel.

Maybe someplace in the Tapani Sector? Tapani's all about noble houses and related intrigue, complete with an alliance with the Empire.

Check out the old WEG Lords of the Expanse box set. It's downloadable from d6holocron.com.

Edited by Nytwyng

Heya Incinerator! You might find the planet Jelucan to be a good choice! It's the planet the protagonists in Lost Stars (a novel in the new canon) are from, and it strongly suggests an Imperial connection and heavy local class politics.

I like Eriadu.

It's hails from the EU and is the ancestral home of the Tarkins. It's often touted as the "Coruscant of the outer-rim."

Anaxes seems like a pretty obvious choice. Eriadu would work as well.

My understanding of the post-RotJ timeline is that following the final battles with the Empire, Imperial controlled worlds were absorbed into the New Republic. The former Imperial-military hardliners/loyalists stuck around for awhile as the First Order before heading into the Unknown Regions. There was less of a DMZ between Imperial worlds and the New Republic and more of the former Imperials just straight up disappearing and staying hidden in uncharted space.

I've heard a couple things, it doesn't seem to have a propper consistency as Imperial Worlds just up and fall off. Like, no mention of the remaining Empire and the FO magically appears while the Republic has a schism with Mon Mothma's declining health. It was repeatedly mentioned the FO is the Empire, and that it isn't and is a mixture of things with a Imperial rump state lingering around.

I've thought of Tapani and Adumar. Well mostly I've thought traditionally making up my own world, this will probably be easier. Anaxes I've heard in other franchises, and I've got more reading to do on the other two worlds.

I've planned an Imperial Army Ground Support pilot in a Bomber wing. One of the huge... things is he's not defecting. EU is pretty open, but DC doesn't give me a whole lot of ideas. I utterly detest the FO.

It's a 30-year gap between episodes 6 and 7. A lot can happen in those three decades.

The First Order isn't the Empire. That's been made abundantly clear.

The First Order isn't the Empire. That's been made abundantly clear.

Not really.

Seems pretty Empirey to me, at least.

Just like most of TFA, it just seems like the OT with new name tags slapped on everything. Instead of Empire, Rebellion, and Tattooine, we have First Order, Resistance, and Jakku.

The First Order isn't the Empire. That's been made abundantly clear.

Not really.

Seems pretty Empirey to me, at least.

Just like most of TFA, it just seems like the OT with new name tags slapped on everything. Instead of Empire, Rebellion, and Tattooine, we have First Order, Resistance, and Jakku.

It's a 30-year gap between episodes 6 and 7. A lot can happen in those three decades.

The First Order isn't the Empire. That's been made abundantly clear.

FO isn't a continuation so much as it is a spin off group trying to bring another Imperial Order based on Palpatines. I've ended up calling it the Fanboy Order simply because instead of the FO being like what Abrams said they were, regrouping Nazis, it's a bunch of Neo Nazi dimwits doing exactly the same thing for the same results.

It's incredible how difficult it is to work on this. Probably explains why it's taken me five years to work on a Chaos Warband.

Edited by incinerator950

Mild novel spoilers ahoy!

Based on the novels released so far, the seeds of the First Order are indeed remnants of the Empire. The Aftermath books have Imperials attempting to continue the fight against the Rebellion-turned-New Republic, while some quietly siphon off assets (Hux's dad, sizable chunks of the Imperial fleet, etc.) to hide them away and prepare to build something new. The last book should reveal some more information, as it looks to feature the battle at Jakku & the fates of several Imperials. The one that seems to be the mastermind of this effort is apparently some kind of special agent of Palpatine; he first encountered the Emperor as a child, and seems to have some special loyalty, knowledge, and plans.

A quarter century or so after the Battle of Endor, the Republic has First Order sympathizers and agents infiltrating and in place throughout the Republic, including in the Senate itself. Their manipulations seem to be the major reason that the Republic doesn't take the First Order seriously as a threat, and why Leia forms the Resistance.

That's what I figured. Harder to get into as I absolutely have no desire to read any of the Aftermath books.

From what you describe, I'd say to do what myself and many of my friends do: ignore the new canon, and work within the realm of the EU. You can borrow freely from the new canon, but in the case of any conflicts, consider the EU to take precedence over the new canon.

From what you're describing, it looks like there's precious little that the new canon has to offer.

Since the Disney buyout, the vast majority of games I've taken part in have approached the entire setting as more of a "choose your own adventure", which is honestly, a pretty fun way to approach Star Wars.

Empress Teta would be another example you could use. While its not a Fortress world, it does have some advantages in that it is hard to get to.

From what you describe, I'd say to do what myself and many of my friends do: ignore the new canon, and work within the realm of the EU. You can borrow freely from the new canon, but in the case of any conflicts, consider the EU to take precedence over the new canon.

From what you're describing, it looks like there's precious little that the new canon has to offer.

Since the Disney buyout, the vast majority of games I've taken part in have approached the entire setting as more of a "choose your own adventure", which is honestly, a pretty fun way to approach Star Wars.

I've largely adopted that policy. Keeps attached to the franchise as nothing Disney released has appealed to me.

So far I divided the plot points based on what's going on. For instance, in the DC version, his wife is captured by Rebels and he has to desert to rescue her when she escaped custody. If using the EU version, she was believe kia on the second Death Star but was actually a clone of someone else, and was abducted to finish a experiment. I'm essentially brainstorming two stories hoping I'll pick one.

I saw Empress while looking at the Star map. I like more material to look up, thank you.

Alright, settled on a homeworld in the Tepani Sector. EU side is looking to be finalized in the Deep Core, DC I'll probably wing it until something that catches my interest in five to ten years is finally released.

The First Order isn't the Empire. That's been made abundantly clear.

Not really.

Seems pretty Empirey to me, at least.

Just like most of TFA, it just seems like the OT with new name tags slapped on everything. Instead of Empire, Rebellion, and Tattooine, we have First Order, Resistance, and Jakku.

You're swapping visual tropes & story beats with setting details.

In the original trilogy, the Empire ran the galaxy. The New Republic is the official galactic authority by Episode 7. The Empire was the legitimate government - more or less - whereas the First Order is not.

If the SW Galaxy is Germany in 1932, the New Republic is the Weimar Republic, the First Order is the Nazi Party, and the Resistance is the Widerstand or the Maquis.

The First Order isn't the Empire. That's been made abundantly clear.

Not really.

Seems pretty Empirey to me, at least.

Just like most of TFA, it just seems like the OT with new name tags slapped on everything. Instead of Empire, Rebellion, and Tattooine, we have First Order, Resistance, and Jakku.

You're swapping visual tropes & story beats with setting details.

In the original trilogy, the Empire ran the galaxy. The New Republic is the official galactic authority by Episode 7. The Empire was the legitimate government - more or less - whereas the First Order is not.

If the SW Galaxy is Germany in 1932, the New Republic is the Weimar Republic, the First Order is the Nazi Party, and the Resistance is the Widerstand or the Maquis.

The FO, like Abrams, is like the South American Nazi hideouts regrouping and reorganizing. From SS holdouts in Germany attacking everything to Swiss shills lining money for Nazi manufacturing.

The old Empire is more Nazi than Wermacht. I would have liked to have seen the Imperial Remnant turn into the German defense against the Soviet union, but it's moot.

The First Order isn't the Empire. That's been made abundantly clear.

Not really.

Seems pretty Empirey to me, at least.

Just like most of TFA, it just seems like the OT with new name tags slapped on everything. Instead of Empire, Rebellion, and Tattooine, we have First Order, Resistance, and Jakku.

You're swapping visual tropes & story beats with setting details.

In the original trilogy, the Empire ran the galaxy. The New Republic is the official galactic authority by Episode 7. The Empire was the legitimate government - more or less - whereas the First Order is not.

If the SW Galaxy is Germany in 1932, the New Republic is the Weimar Republic, the First Order is the Nazi Party, and the Resistance is the Widerstand or the Maquis.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

Shaky analogies aside, from what we *actually see in the film*, the First Order is a large, evil force that holds most of the cards, the Resistance is a small, but charismatic bunch of freedom fighters, and everyone else gets less than a second thought. If you don't see the (to my viewing obvious, even ham-fisted) parallels to the OT, there's nothing I can (or want to) do to change that, but as far as the feeling the movies convey, they couldn't be more similar.

It's a bigger copypasta than Mass Effect 3's being a rip off of Deus Ex's.

On topic as I didn't want this to devolve into a Disney sucks at plot writing. I've decided the alternate timeline (DC) to end in the Corporate Sector. It's easy and doesn't step on toes as badly.

Edited by incinerator950