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With a rerun of the pilot airing after a Rebels rerun this morning, I started wondering....

Could Manipulate be a way - for better or for worse - of adapting the sort of power that Rowan Freemaker displayed in Lego Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures?

Didn't Anakin Solo have some kind of force ability with mechanics back in the day? I recall something like that during the Corellian book (series?) where he worked out how to use planetary repulsors using the force.

It's been so long since I read those, I don't recall how it all went down.

I just thought of all the scenes with Rowan rebuilding/reconfiguring ships using the Force (granted, in a very Lego-y fashion), and made a connection to Manipulate.

Didn't Anakin Solo have some kind of force ability with mechanics back in the day? I recall something like that during the Corellian book (series?) where he worked out how to use planetary repulsors using the force.

Yes, yes he did. There was also such a power back in the WEG days in the Jedi Academy Sourcebook based upon what Kip Durron did in that trilogy, though it was a Dark Side Power, which is why I never took it for my character Korath.

It also makes sense that Manipulate would be the power used to create lightsabers, or other Force-enabled weapons.

That side bar on no synthetic crystals seems like a thing Disney requested as a "This isn't Cannon anymore guys" statement.

Manipulate does seem odd. It doesn't have many ways to be used in an Evil way, gaining Conflict with it would all come down to using DS pips, perhaps excluding a "selfish" use or "personal gain". Some kind of Influence or Harm style Control upgrade would have been interesting.

Where exactly is the sidebar on their being no synthetic crystals, I did not see it in my read through but perhaps I missed it. Also I don't think FFG deals soley in what is canon for their lines for example Ganks and E-Wings haven't been re-canonized and are in the books to list two examples.

Where exactly is the sidebar on their being no synthetic crystals

See page 84, upper half of the column on the right-hand side of the page.

Also I don't think FFG deals soley in what is canon for their lines for example Ganks and E-Wings haven't been re-canonized and are in the books to list two examples.

It has taken a while, but we’re now starting to see materials coming out of FFG that were not started (or too far down the line) until after the first Star Wars movie that has come out under the new ownership of Disney.

So, I would not be surprised to see more of this kind of thing going forward.

Ok now I see it but again my point stands that they are not dealing exclusively in canon only point in case the Lightwhip(A legends only) weapon shows up in the same book and Lightfoils show up in the same section even. I think Lucasfilm is suggesting what to put in point in case the Kuyzo in Age of Rebellion but I think we are overestimating Disney's participation. In my opinion Disney is taking a cut of the profits and suing people who get in the way of business sure. But as for creative control that would be Pablo and the Story group.

Every single word in every Star Wars product that FFG release is rubber stamped by Disney. The actual balance and rules won't be questioned (as far as I know) but the fluf is always kept within Disney's continuity. Now that doesn't make it Cannon, but it can shed light on what Cannon is. I believe this is one of those circumstances, where Disney decided this was a good place to clarify one fluff aspect of crystals.

Ok now I see it but again my point stands that they are not dealing exclusively in canon only point in case the Lightwhip(A legends only) weapon shows up in the same book and Lightfoils show up in the same section even. I think Lucasfilm is suggesting what to put in point in case the Kuyzo in Age of Rebellion but I think we are overestimating Disney's participation. In my opinion Disney is taking a cut of the profits and suing people who get in the way of business sure. But as for creative control that would be Pablo and the Story group.

what page of what book are light foils on?

I've been using Tapani saberrake lightfoils (as in ghetto lightsabers) for a while now (I statted them at pierce 5, with 6 damage). They've been an NPC only weapon, a PC manage to capture a damaged one, but at the end of yesterday's session traded it for "excalibur" (an extremely tricked out vibro katana crafted using the rules in special modifications)

Every single word in every Star Wars product that FFG release is rubber stamped by Disney. The actual balance and rules won't be questioned (as far as I know) but the fluf is always kept within Disney's continuity. Now that doesn't make it Cannon, but it can shed light on what Cannon is. I believe this is one of those circumstances, where Disney decided this was a good place to clarify one fluff aspect of crystals.

I think it would be more precise to replace Disney with Lucasfilm in that statement.

True, Disney as a whole is in charge and undoubtedly executives from Disney get involved, but Lucasfilm is the department with which they would directly interact with on a day to day basis.

I think Disney is just making sure things get no worse than PG-13 Of course an R-rated Star Wars film could be cool, but feels quite unnecessary.

Ok now I see it but again my point stands that they are not dealing exclusively in canon only point in case the Lightwhip(A legends only) weapon shows up in the same book and Lightfoils show up in the same section even. I think Lucasfilm is suggesting what to put in point in case the Kuyzo in Age of Rebellion but I think we are overestimating Disney's participation. In my opinion Disney is taking a cut of the profits and suing people who get in the way of business sure. But as for creative control that would be Pablo and the Story group.

what page of what book are light foils on?

I've been using Tapani saberrake lightfoils (as in ghetto lightsabers) for a while now (I statted them at pierce 5, with 6 damage). They've been an NPC only weapon, a PC manage to capture a damaged one, but at the end of yesterday's session traded it for "excalibur" (an extremely tricked out vibro katana crafted using the rules in special modifications)

Lightfoils per se don't have stats. They were just noted as an example of an "accurate hilt" in the LS Hilt Construction section in regards to choosing a template.

I think Disney is just making sure things get no worse than PG-13 Of course an R-rated Star Wars film could be cool, but feels quite unnecessary.

It'd really have to depend on the story.

To look towards comic book movies, having Deadpool be R-rated made sense given the character's nature and what he does. But turning an Avengers film into an R-rated flick doesn't jive with the feel that Marvel Studios has been running with; the Netflix series are probably as close to R-rated as Marvel's going to go, and even those aren't a "hard R" the way that Deadpool was, but with characters like Daredevil and the Punisher being a good deal grittier than Cap or Iron Man, it makes sense to go that route. Superman's another property that doesn't work as being R-rated, despite Zack Snyders' ham-fisted attempts to do just that.

Based on the trailers, I think Rogue One is probably as close to a story that could warrant an R-rating as the Star Wars franchise is likely to get and still be recognizable as Star Wars.

Just got my copy and...phew! 12 pages on this thread already. Well, I'm sure this has been touched on, but...that new Force power...ick. It seems fine mechanically , but just MHO, it feels like it violates everything the Force is about, and is just a sop for the technician crowd.

I felt a little weird about it at first, but I really like the image of holding your speeder bike together past its limit through the sheer power of the force.

I kinda get where you are coming from, whafrog, but I think that might mean that you as a person are simply not a Sentinel-minded Force user =P

While it would not be something I would personally focus on (the me that is a Force sensitive in a galaxy far, far away...) I completely sense the practicality, or flat out necessity for the Jedi or any Force culture to figure out some way to interact with machines and technology. It is like a larger scale version of the "Imbue" talent that Artisans/Armorers have.

Gotta say I'm with deraforia on this.

Out of curiosity is there any compiled resource available for the different drugs and toxins, or any combined resource for black market goods? Also what is the description of the drugs in Endless Vigil, interestingly from the list you gave these all seem unique to the rpg which seems odd considering there are still some in the canon which have not been introduced in the rpg yet.

Thanks

Out of curiosity is there any compiled resource available for the different drugs and toxins, or any combined resource for black market goods? Also what is the description of the drugs in Endless Vigil, interestingly from the list you gave these all seem unique to the rpg which seems odd considering there are still some in the canon which have not been introduced in the rpg yet.

Thanks

There's a list here but you'll have to look them up in the relevant book for the details: http://swrpg.viluppo.net/equipment/gear/category/22/

There’s a Poison category at http://swrpg.viluppo.net/equipment/gear/category/75/

There’s a Medical category at http://swrpg.viluppo.net/equipment/gear/category/13/

There’s a Drugs category at http://swrpg.viluppo.net/equipment/gear/category/22/

Do note that we’re at least a couple of books behind right now. We’re still entering data from “Savage Spirits”, and haven’t yet started on “Forged in Battle” or “Endless Vigil”.

Thanks everyone although I am aware of Villupo and it is a great resource what I was more thinking of is a resource more targeted at the different black market goods, where each one is produced, the trade routes they are commonly found on, organisations who fence them and that sort of thing as using streetwise rolls to see if a particular black market item is available etc. is fine but it would be cool to have a compiled source of all the information we have on the varying goods to flesh it out a bit more. Thus I was wondering what the full description were for the ones in Endless Vigil, since they do not seem to appear outside of this book I was wondering if it provided information on where the drugs come from or who manufactures them.

​I get as many of the books as I can but being in New Zealand it often takes a while, for instance one of the places I have gotten a lot of them is still taking preorders for Savage Spirits with the release date in store still to be confirmed :/

Thus I was wondering what the full description were for the ones in Endless Vigil, since they do not seem to appear outside of this book I was wondering if it provided information on where the drugs come from or who manufactures them.

In my experience, very few (if any) drugs or poison descriptions provide that kind of information. They’ll give you a name of what they are, how they’re used, and other more general details. But you almost never get specifics on what organization peddles them, who manufactures them, or where they come from.

Typically, those are all details that a GM would want to fill in for their own game.

You could take Legends/EU information about them from Wookieepedia and work with that, but that would be for you and your game.

Ok now I see it but again my point stands that they are not dealing exclusively in canon only point in case the Lightwhip(A legends only) weapon shows up in the same book and Lightfoils show up in the same section even. I think Lucasfilm is suggesting what to put in point in case the Kuyzo in Age of Rebellion but I think we are overestimating Disney's participation. In my opinion Disney is taking a cut of the profits and suing people who get in the way of business sure. But as for creative control that would be Pablo and the Story group.

I think it's more that Legends things that have been positively excised from canon probably won't be seen in the books any more*. Lucasfilm reps have said that, per Lucas and going forward, Sith-made synthetic kyber crystals aren't what makes lightsabers red, and the Sith don't use synthetic crystals; they use crystals obtained by other means. So no synthetic lightsaber crystals.

*OTOH, Lucasfilm reps have also said that living things that are anti-Force aren't a thing, because the Force includes all living things by definition, hence life cannot be anti-Force. But ysalmir are in the core F&D book, so... there are no absolutes, I guess.

*OTOH, Lucasfilm reps have also said that living things that are anti-Force aren't a thing, because the Force includes all living things by definition, hence life cannot be anti-Force. But ysalmir are in the core F&D book, so... there are no absolutes, I guess.

My ruling there would be that Ysalmiri have a native capability that is similar to Force Suppress, which I believe is a known Force power.

They’re not exactly the same thing, but they are closely related.

*OTOH, Lucasfilm reps have also said that living things that are anti-Force aren't a thing, because the Force includes all living things by definition, hence life cannot be anti-Force. But ysalmir are in the core F&D book, so... there are no absolutes, I guess.

My ruling there would be that Ysalmiri have a native capability that is similar to Force Suppress, which I believe is a known Force power.

They’re not exactly the same thing, but they are closely related.

That would be my take as well. Ysalimiri weren't "absent" from the Force. They simply had the innate ability to "push it back" making it harder for Force sensitive predators from finding them.