Heavy Scyk errata- What does it mean for future errata's?

By Kdubb, in X-Wing

So for the first time, a ship has seen a direct, intentional buff via errata. With this errata, it really opens the door for future erratas to under performing ships, pilots and upgrades.

I believe FFG will hold to the same model they have been using of revisiting ships via Aces or Veterans type releases, but when there are some cards that need special care, I think they should strongly consider the route they have taken with the scyk.

Here are some other cards which could use a similar type of errata as the Heavy Scyk title received:

-Fel's Wrath and various other named Tie Interceptor pilots without EPTs

-Major Rhymer (overcosted)

-Arvel, Horton, Dutch and Gemmer (need EPTs)

-ORS and WSF

-K fighters and Starviper (likely too see aces/vets treatment imo)

- many upgrades, such as saboteur, Flight Instructor, Leia.

So do you think this will be more common in the future, or is the Scyk buff a one off and we will never see something similar again?

Nothing. I wouldn't get your hopes up.

iirc they still havent errata'd any pilot cards. Its all reference cards or upgrade cards.

Or prices for that matter. Some cards would be great if they were budget cards (ironically ALL the 4pt epts lol).

Still, biggest change i hope for is Elusiveness either not giving you a stress and restricting it to evade-action capable ships or just not giving a stress for evade-action ships and still allowing it on everyone. Its sound for 2pts until you realize you can only do it once and any stress-attack can stop it entirely.

Nothing. I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Ya, don't worry, I'm not. If I'm being honest, I think the major reason they did this was because the scyk already has a title that forms how that ship is meant to fly, and any revisit to the ship would be difficult because they don't have the ability of adding another title without making this one totally irrelevant.

*snickers* can you imagine how annoying it would be to take out an Awing if they did that change to elusiveness i wanted?

LW + Elusiveness + Evade action (or focus whichever) + Autos. I force you to reroll that crit, i reroll 1 of my green die and mod a blank and still got a token.

Terrible offensively and obviously LW isnt that great until its the last fighter alive but would be outright hilarious rofl.

Handing out new free Heavy Syck cards at tournament would be nice. That would work for me. Otherwise, they need to stay away from doing this again. The cat is out of the bag.

I think their business mode would probably lean towards reissues (such as TIE advanced/Raider) but this one feels like a quick fix that might actually see the Scyk get some competitive play.

I am VERY ok with this kind of change if it promotes quick change that improves the play experience for people.

I'm a big fan of errata like this. Especially b/c it doesn't mean buying a 'fix' for the ship. People whining about needing to remember the current text should get over their laziness.

Handing out new free Heavy Syck cards at tournament would be nice. That would work for me. Otherwise, they need to stay away from doing this again. The cat is out of the bag.

Why would they suddenly hand out new cards?

Literally every miniatures game puts rule changes out there that force us to remember the rules arent exactly as they are in the book/on the cards.

Unless they completely rewrite a card so it barely resembles the old one at all, thus it might as well just be called something else at that point, theres no reason to release updated cards. Daredevil has a much heavier errata than the scyk title does, and ive never seen an updated daredevil card.

So for the first time, a ship has seen a direct, intentional buff via errata. With this errata, it really opens the door for future erratas to under performing ships, pilots and upgrades.

The door was never closed, FFG simply has a policy against it (do not errata unless absolutely necessary) and the reasons behind it still stand. The M3-A is a ship I doubt FFG has any great desire to revisit from a sales perspective and it already has a title card: in this case a one line errata was by far and away the most elegant solution.

So for the first time, a ship has seen a direct, intentional buff via errata.

This isn't the first balance change to a card via errata. They did it with Tactician a while ago. It's the first Buff via errata, but that really doesn't mean anything special.

Handing out new free Heavy Syck cards at tournament would be nice.

they hadn't handed out updated Tacticians or other errata'd cards so there's no reason to expect them to do now.

Sadly, naked Scyks still need to be fixed since nobody wants to pay 14 points for something that's ever so slightly better than a tie fighter.

Still, a step forward, certainly

Sadly, naked Scyks still need to be fixed since nobody wants to pay 14 points for something that's ever so slightly better than a tie fighter.

Still, a step forward, certainly

Ya but FFG seems to not mind that. Similarly, Tie SF and ARC need their titles as well to be playable.

So for the first time, a ship has seen a direct, intentional buff via errata.

This isn't the first balance change to a card via errata. They did it with Tactician a while ago. It's the first Buff via errata, but that really doesn't mean anything special.

I think it's pretty special. Before this, I didn't expect them to ever buff something via errata like this. A ship went from bottom of the totem pole to at the very least, playable, simply due to a line of text. There are a lot of other cards that they could do this with that would help the game, but I understand they probably wont and will be cautious with any sort of addition.

Sadly, naked Scyks still need to be fixed since nobody wants to pay 14 points for something that's ever so slightly better than a tie fighter.

Still, a step forward, certainly

There is really no need for a naked Scyk, we have the Z-95.

Sadly, naked Scyks still need to be fixed since nobody wants to pay 14 points for something that's ever so slightly better than a tie fighter.

Still, a step forward, certainly

There is really no need for a naked Scyk, we have the Z-95.

But perhaps another scyk title may come in the future. Heavy scyk and light scyk.

Sadly, naked Scyks still need to be fixed since nobody wants to pay 14 points for something that's ever so slightly better than a tie fighter.

Still, a step forward, certainly

There is really no need for a naked Scyk, we have the Z-95.

Well, that was kind of the problem. Or rather, the reverse of the problem. Correctly costed 13 point basic Scyks would all but obsolete the Scum Z-95. But FFG was to cautious and needed to give the Scyk a little more power.

To be honest, I'm not entirely happy with this update on reflection, because I feel like the real solution should have been to increase the Scyk's base hull value by one, which would make all of the scyks a lot meatier. Of course, that would mean errata'ing 4 pilot cards and the bases instead of one upgrade, but still. Feels like a missed opportunity.

Edited by Squark

Sadly, naked Scyks still need to be fixed since nobody wants to pay 14 points for something that's ever so slightly better than a tie fighter.

Still, a step forward, certainly

They were never intended to fly without the title.

Sadly, naked Scyks still need to be fixed since nobody wants to pay 14 points for something that's ever so slightly better than a tie fighter.

Still, a step forward, certainly

If Scyks see more play people might come to like them more than Zs and be willing to pay the 2 points to get one instead of a Binyare.

Then again, if you've got a Scyk you might as well give it the extra hull now. Scum didn't need another TIE/Z-95 ship but a Scum A-wing I think is fairly welcome.

Edited by Blue Five

Correctly costed 13 point basic Scyks would all but obsolete the Scum Z-95.

The illicit and missile slot on the Z-95 should keep it relevant even if the Scyk was a point cheaper.

The z-95 would still be more efficient than a 13 point syck regardless of slots but it would be an interesting decision.

Correctly costed 13 point basic Scyks would all but obsolete the Scum Z-95.

The illicit and missile slot on the Z-95 should keep it relevant even if the Scyk was a point cheaper.

Ungh. Downside of constantly rewriting your post is that sometimes things get lost. Meant to mention the illicit.

If someone finds it "hard" to remember the buff, just add a color dot to the card. I'm in the process of marking the upgrade cards that have been changed in this way. It's a simple but effective way to remember card changes. When building a squad, if there's a dot on the card, refer to the FAQ and build accordingly. If you are worried about someone complaining about the altered card, mark the sleeve instead.

The dots are available at Office Max for a couple of dollars.

I am now considering buying a Scyk. Prices have immediately gone up on them. FFG knows what it is doing. It's a Pew-Pew err, Win-Win.

I gotta admit, I held off buying a second one because I was so certain it was showing up in the Scum Aces pack, and I only ever really wanted two of them.

Now I gotta go actually buy one? Tsk tsk, FFG. I'm a little dissapointed. :P