2 Tractor Scyks + 3 Fangs is going to be fun.

Dislike the hard errata but honestly, I don't see them fixing it any other way. All other methods required some rule exception as the title slot for this ship had already been used.

+1 Hull and sec weapon slot for 2 pts makes this ship much more viable now - while cannons remain the best sec. weapons, missiles/torpedos with guidance chips are also a possibility and utility sec weapons might be usuable (eg tractor beam, tacking missile, seismic torp). I've not played in a while - gotta see if I can find something fun!

Dislike the hard errata but honestly, I don't see them fixing it any other way. All other methods required some rule exception as the title slot for this ship had already been used.

+1 Hull and sec weapon slot for 2 pts makes this ship much more viable now - while cannons remain the best sec. weapons, missiles/torpedos with guidance chips are also a possibility and utility sec weapons might be usuable (eg tractor beam, tacking missile, seismic torp). I've not played in a while - gotta see if I can find something fun!

Manaroo and a trio of Kamikaze TPVs?

I know it's horrible and all but throwing a 6 die proton rocket into someone's grill is awesome.

Tansarii Point Veteran (25) x4 M3-A “Scyk” Interceptor (17)

-Fearlessness (1)

-“Heavy Scyk” Interceptor (2)

-Autoblaster (5)

Total of 100p

This is my new go to list!!! I will be testing the s**t out of this and Attanni Mindlink versio... I feel like this is something to try!

If this has already been stated but I missed it....

If you equip the Heavy Scyk title are you forced to take the secondary weapon as well? Or can I just take the title as 2pt. Hull Upgrade and save some pts?

Thanks.

No, it just gives you the slot. Feel free to leave it empty.

Theoretically, a Tansarii Point Veteran with Fearlessness and Heavy Scyk is actually quite a nice little ship. You lose a hit point compared to a Khiraxz but gain an agility die and (much) pilot skill, and lose an attack die at range 1-2 but actually outshoot it at range 1.

Is that good enough to see play though?

had some fun with this they are only 24 point (need at least 2 of them)

will test this on Thursday

http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/584373/m3-link#

So many decent options now.

had some fun with this they are only 24 point (need at least 2 of them)

Tansarii Point Veteran

M3-A “Scyk” Interceptor

Attanni Mindlink

“Heavy Scyk” Interceptor

“Mangler” Cannon

and you can add another hull or stealth device to harden them up a bit

that still leave you enough points for a nasty scum ace or alpha striker

Like this, for instance:

So I tried out a tansarii vet with the new title tonight on vassal. Annnnd he died without getting a shot in thanks to not rolling a single evade on back to back defensive rolls (had a evade token but wasn't enough).

I do think they have potential though.

I'm playing with a heavy spacer with procket and chips as the blocker/filler in my fenn+Asajj list. It's been pretty solid with the solid dial and the barrel roll. It also actually has a really scary danger zone when it dumps 5 hits range 1.

Yeaaah. Played a few games with and against Scyks (everyone on vassal suddenly seems to be running scyks), including some in this thread.

You really can't mindlink more than one or two scyks and expect it to work well. They just don't have the dial to handle the stress limitations. You can however fit a scyk into a more conventional mindlink list.

An extra hull is nice (and I've had it pay off once or twice) but often it doesn't actually come into play where you're left on 1 hull that would have otherwise kill you. It definitely doesn't hurt but it isn't turning Scyks into something that's actually good . A shield upgrade on top does make them rather survivable (like a cheap E wing) but put a cannon on there and you're really forking out for it.

Manglers don't really cut it. Pay the extra for a HLC I think. At the point where you're paying 6 points for title and mangler, plus whatever for your EPT, another 3 is worth it.

I think really the biggest issue with scyks is action economy. Ideally you really want evade and focus, plus another focus and TL for offence to justify the pretty crazy points you have to invest to get it to work. Mindlink or PTL gets you a focus/evade but really limits mobility, particularly K-turns. Manaroo helps out here but it's still kinda limited.

If he had an EPT, Laetin would be awesome. But he doesn't. Still okay with a stealth device and some way to pass tokens (i.e. manaroo really) but really struggles with action economy. Serissu on the other hand is expensive but she is also a force multiplier if you can keep her alive.

After the initial experimentation, I think Scyks are sadly going back in the box for the most part.

Yeah, I was not impressed by the Syck. I'm gonna try another version next week but yuck.

will test this on Thursday

http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/584373/m3-link#

Ran that list at the Mt. View Ca. Regional earlier this year. Didn't practice with it before the tourney and went 3 wins, 2 losses and an outright draw. It's a fun little list.

Have people encountered any lists involving Scyks in this Regional season and if yes, how did they fare? I just looked up listjuggler and didn't find any list involving Scyks. I have Regionals coming up in two weeks and I'm planning to fly mixed list involving two of those. Just wondered if there are any hope for my dear little bees or I'm just getting utterly annihilated?

They've gone from very bad to just bad.

1 hour ago, Green Doo said:

Have people encountered any lists involving Scyks in this Regional season and if yes, how did they fare? I just looked up listjuggler and didn't find any list involving Scyks. I have Regionals coming up in two weeks and I'm planning to fly mixed list involving two of those. Just wondered if there are any hope for my dear little bees or I'm just getting utterly annihilated?

I ran a Mangler/HLC/Guri Mindlink list at the Seattle Regional last month. It was my first Regional, and I've only been playing about a year. And I did not practice enough beforehand. But, I managed to go 3-3, 45th out of 110, with two of the losses being awful **** close. It suffered against stress-lists, of course, although not as badly as you might fear. You really have to control that initial engagement; it sets the tone for the rest of the game. And pray to the Green Dice Gods. Scyks aren't not top tier, but they certainly can surprise people. I say do it.

In my Attani Mindlink list instead of Teroch I took Serissu with Attanni, HLC, Stealth Device and Title - it works really good.

The thing is sometimes you need to come to terms with the fact you will stack stress from time to time on Scyk - base your action economy on Manaroo and with Scyk just do those sweet 1-turns.

1 hour ago, Green Doo said:

Have people encountered any lists involving Scyks in this Regional season and if yes, how did they fare? I just looked up listjuggler and didn't find any list involving Scyks. I have Regionals coming up in two weeks and I'm planning to fly mixed list involving two of those. Just wondered if there are any hope for my dear little bees or I'm just getting utterly annihilated?

A Bossk, Fenn Rau, Scyk list won the Kansas City regional.

2 hours ago, Stay On The Leader said:

They've gone from very bad to just bad.

Not even bad, just "why am I not playing a Fang fighter instead"-syndrome. I have played them to statisfactory results, even in a more "competetive" enviroment (no actual tournament, just a good player that plays strong lists) and thanks to Mindlink they could hold their ground very well. Any ships that can effectively run Mindlink is worth something in my book.

Wait....

is this necro thread now about the errata to hvy scyks, or the new lt scyks that won't be out for another 4-6 months?

22 minutes ago, Admiral Deathrain said:

Not even bad, just "why am I not playing a Fang fighter instead"-syndrome.

At 20 points the Cartel Spacer with a Mangler is easily as good as the Zealous Recruit. The same thing is true for the PS5 versions of those ships. The Protectorate has the option to take its title and Autothrusters but that makes it 3 points more expensive, which is a significant increase in cost when looking at cheapish ships.

I have not personally lost a game using Scyks since the fix, nor have I seen Scyks lose a game since the fix.

That being said, it's probably also worth pointing out that I haven't seen a Scyk used since the fix...

Scum just have too many other fantastic options to bother with Scyks.

http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/get_tourney_details?tourney_id=2552

They're fine with the errata. I think they're really underated at the moment.

m ³ (M cubed)List will wreck face at Yavin.

Serrisu was 2nd in a Regional out in NOVA territory (Games n Stuff?).

I will probably run them again this year (I ran them in two regionals last year). It is down to one of two Scyk lists or the Rebel list I ran in San Diego.