Is this not the standard interdictor cruiser? Because the interdictor is a 600m cruiser and the VSD is 900m, but this model is clearly larger than a VSD. What gives?
Interdictor size?
Not to mention the Indicator has more hull points therefor stating it is bigger than the VSD.
Could it be the Immobilizer you are talking about? Apparently its another class
If memory serves, when I did a rough comparison size I got a number of 1,150 meters for the new Interdictor (based on screens and the Rebels and the concept art notes). This isn't the Int-418 based on the Vindicator-class, it has components of the ISD in it.
Edited by VykesIt is an experimental design.
It is an experimental design.
And its fictional. Made up by a franchise that started almost before wargaming was invented and contributed to by many individuals over several decades to look good on film or sound impressive in a novel.
Edited by Mad CatFor whatever reason, Lucasfilm decided that they did want to bring in the Interdictor, but not in the way that it had been previously presented. They introduced it in Rebels, and at that point, I think FFG just had to play along.
While I was at first bummed, because I want them to bring in the key things from the EU, I think at this point it just makes sense. For one, I think something as strategically significant as an interdictor cruiser should be a little larger and tankier. Also, if it is the proof-of-concept for the Empire, then maybe they wanted to build something larger and reinforced in order to test the technology, before they built smaller versions (ie. the Immobilizer 418 -class).
But, as far as NuCanon, we just don't know what's going to be supported in the future, and FFG is just better off going with the canon than with the EU/Legends.
From my memory of Interdictors from the Xwing flight sim game is they were smaller than VSDs and were designed to be objective ships ie you would have to take one out in order for your fleet to escape.
it would be unreasonable to take out a VSD or ISD in snub fighters without many preparation waves/attacks (this did happen at campaign climaxes) but allowed you to take out a mini star destroyer shaped ship in order for your fleet to escape, all the while a VSD was spewing out TIE fighters to battle. The smaller size was probably designed for many of the same reasons as the Raider was designed for Xwing Miniatures
Made for great games as a starfighter sim, but in the context of Armada, an interdictor of that size would probably be too squishy.
Edited by ErystThe smaller Legends Immobalizer-418 class is in the new canon via books. Can't remember which one (Tarkin I think). If I recall correctly, it was phased out of service due to it being too small and light for combat duty.
The smaller Legends Immobalizer-418 class is in the new canon via books. Can't remember which one (Tarkin I think). If I recall correctly, it was phased out of service due to it being too small and light for combat duty.
At least two books - Tarkin, and Heir to the Jedi.
In Heir to the Jedi (set post-ANH) we find that production has stopped on Immobilizer-418s and started on "Star Destroyers With Gravity Well Projectors" - but they're still in service.
Why skip on the West End version? So much of FFGs stuff is already taken from there that any sort of IP or copyright line has already repeatedly been crossed (and is crossed every single wave of almost any game FFG makes in the franchise). Oh well. The monster Interdictor clearly uses the WEG design, just scaled up and certainly isn't a bad ship in game. Just curious. I guess plugging Rebels any chance they can is a reasonable move (though I'd personally find the cheaper/smaller Immobilizer much more useful in my lists).
The monster Interdictor clearly uses the WEG design, just scaled up
The underside's a bit different - and I think the engine layout may be different as well.
The monster Interdictor clearly uses the WEG design, just scaled up
The underside's a bit different - and I think the engine layout may be different as well.
Agreed, the hull lines are different, the red lighting lines on the hull are different, the command pagoda to size and contours are different... its a completely different look. I just meant it "uses" parts of the original design, not that it copies it. I like the new sculpt, just not sure for a fleet game why you'd use a one off prototype that was destroyed over an established, mass produced (and better slotted for fleet builds, IMO) piece of the canon.
I like the new sculpt, just not sure for a fleet game why you'd use a one off prototype that was destroyed over an established, mass produced (and better slotted for fleet builds, IMO) piece of the canon.
It was in testing in Rebels.
Now, testing may mean one off prototype, but not neccessarily... It may be basically in production at that point.... Starting to be mass produced.
Is there anything that puts Interdictors before rebels that is Canon, timeline wise?
Because they may be one and the same .....
One other small point, just because it was the prototype, where ever they designed and built it would still have the specs to build more. Just like any design that had a problem, they would go back though to find out what went wrong. They would then fix he problem and contiure from there. This has been seen many times in the canon. Hell, they did it with the Death Star, the DSII had removed the exhast port which is why the rebel fleet had to hit it while it was still under construction.
I don't know how many times a story is "if we destroy the prototype they will not be able to make more." You'd have to wipe out all of the prototypes, the all of the designes, and any specially built construction equipment at the same time* (* close enough togeather to prevent salvange of data)
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It is an experimental design.
And its fictional. Made up by a franchise that started almost before wargaming was invented and contributed to by many individuals over several decades to look good on film or sound impressive in a novel.
Not quite. The first commercial successful wargame came out in 1953 with the game Tactics II. See wikipedia . And if you want to really define the start of wargaming, war games were first introduced as emulation games for the general staffs, starting from Kriegspiel in 1780. Miniature gaming (naval ships) started around 1898.
The monster Interdictor clearly uses the WEG design, just scaled up
The underside's a bit different - and I think the engine layout may be different as well.
Agreed, the hull lines are different, the red lighting lines on the hull are different, the command pagoda to size and contours are different... its a completely different look. I just meant it "uses" parts of the original design, not that it copies it. I like the new sculpt, just not sure for a fleet game why you'd use a one off prototype that was destroyed over an established, mass produced (and better slotted for fleet builds, IMO) piece of the canon.
It makes the most economic sense for both Disney/Lucas and FFG to use the design that is featured on screen. Why not cross market if you can? It also then makes sense for FFG to include the characters that appeared in that Rebels episode with the Interdictor like Admiral Konstantine and Captain Typhus.
Is there anything that puts Interdictors before rebels that is Canon, timeline wise?
Because they may be one and the same .....
I figure that this is the newcanon's version of the Interdictor Star Destroyer rather than the Interdictor Heavy Cruiser (Immobilizer). We have seen Immobilizers before Rebels (Tarkin novel) but not Star Destroyer sized Interdictors. Makes sense to me that between Rebels and Heir to the Jedi , the Interdictor Star Destroyer went into full production and the Interdictor Heavy Cruiser ceased production.
As I understood it(back in the old Star Wars spaceships book) immobilizers are the little guys, just barely a small cruiser, whereas, the interdictors a were more or less an isd with grav wells. But that was almost 20 years ago so who knows anymore. But I still love it.
As I understood it(back in the old Star Wars spaceships book) immobilizers are the little guys, just barely a small cruiser, whereas, the interdictors a were more or less an isd with grav wells. But that was almost 20 years ago so who knows anymore.
Hasn't changed - Immobilizers still exist in the Heavy Cruiser size class- Interdictors are still in the Star Destroyer size class - but they don't look like ISDs any more - and we'll have to wait and see if the more ISD-esque one will ever get recanonized.