Will Black Market Slicers narrow squad variety at Worlds more than Jumps?

By clanofwolves, in X-Wing

2 red with focus or TL is OK, but you have to compare it to the gold standard of swarmage, Howlrunner swarms which get reroll and focus.

Bit too random to be relied on I think, so I'm still going to run my rage tycho either way, got beat my stack of 38 stress :)

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Not even close.

50-50 odds + an action to potentially shank someone through their computer is NOT the same as 1shotting incredibly tanky ships right off the bat with immense accuracy.

All it will do is make people be more cautious with their PTL. Especially at 1hp, where you may dodge an attack but got internet-shanked before the attack even happened.

Not even close.

50-50 odds + an action to potentially shank someone through their computer is NOT the same as 1shotting incredibly tanky ships right off the bat with immense accuracy.

All it will do is make people be more cautious with their PTL. Especially at 1hp, where you may dodge an attack but got internet-shanked before the attack even happened.

I do agree this is almost an auto add at 1 point, why wouldn't you? And Z-95s are, as noted above, will carry the bulk of these.

So they're if one wants to fly against them and not let them get this cheap shot, what does one do? Stress is part of the game....I'm really scratching my head on how to insulate this against the squads I fly who all seem to stress now and then normally. Now I'm a bit stressed.

Edited by clanofwolves

The only time I've really been annoyed by it was playing against Assaj. It wasn't earth shattering, but with her ability to toss stress it was fairly effective.

ive faced it quite a few times. The most its done is like i said before: it made me pause before i PTL'd. Never died from it but i did take a couple thwacks from it, which lead to a death.

Its actually gotten a bit less common around here since its initial release. Starting to see lists without it at all and if i do its usually a 1pt dump rather than an empty illicit lol

Two Black Sun Aces. Attanni Mindlink, BMST.

Slice stressed (or self-stressing) enemy ship, get your focus token anyway.

Best paired with Palob and A. N. Other.

BMST is a psych gambit card - anti stress tech gamble.

It has potential to pay out big, or not at all - but it will almost always cause a change in an opponents play with high value low hp stressing ships

The trick is in the stress limitation - the more bmst you bring, the less useful an individual one is, the more poiunts you're betting on redundancy and psych effects. If you just bring one - a ptl ace player is probably targeting it early

I lost Soontir to Asajj and Z with BMST when my friend went 3 for 3 on the rolls. When the dice are hot BMST can turn a game. Not many other 1point upgrades will do that for you.

Veteran. Instincts.

Crack. Shot.

VI will not turn a game because the effect starts before the game.VI is the best upgrade certain pilots can take but is a waste on everything else. Roll two hits with BMST and you have already done twice the damage of crack shot. CS is also an EPT so there is a lot more opportunity cost than just that 1 point (I know it has its uses). People that don't see the value in BMST must have not played Aces or Rebel Regen against a couple of slicers.

Anybody talking about rebels with Slicers? No? Hmm, strange.

ORS and StressHog seem like a match made in heaven. Except ORS still sucks...I guess you can't have it all.

Anybody talking about rebels with Slicers? No? Hmm, strange.

ORS and StressHog seem like a match made in heaven. Except ORS still sucks...I guess you can't have it all.

ORS can tactician slicer .

I lost Soontir to Asajj and Z with BMST when my friend went 3 for 3 on the rolls. When the dice are hot BMST can turn a game. Not many other 1point upgrades will do that for you.

Veteran. Instincts.
Crack. Shot.

VI will not turn a game because the effect starts before the game.VI is the best upgrade certain pilots can take but is a waste on everything else. Roll two hits with BMST and you have already done twice the damage of crack shot. CS is also an EPT so there is a lot more opportunity cost than just that 1 point (I know it has its uses). People that don't see the value in BMST must have not played Aces or Rebel Regen against a couple of slicers.

I have both played with and against it, but I can tell you that while it is good, it is not groundbreaking. Its very good in some matchups, but in most it will maybe work once per game if you are lucky. I don't quite like that kind of inconsistency.

My major issue with Slicers is the diciness. I've had them be amazing. I've had them be absolutely terrible, purely on the fact that they're dice based.

I lost Soontir to Asajj and Z with BMST when my friend went 3 for 3 on the rolls. When the dice are hot BMST can turn a game. Not many other 1point upgrades will do that for you.

Wait, how many stress token do you had on Soontir? How can it possible that Soontir was in Asajj range 2 for three times in the game?

It's easy enough when he uses PTL and she knows where he is when she sets her dial next round. She doesn't have to trigger her pilot ability at all to slice the Baron to death.

It's easy enough when he uses PTL and she knows where he is when she sets her dial next round. She doesn't have to trigger her pilot ability at all to slice the Baron to death.

Not so easy. BMST works on R2, Asajj works on a single arc at R2. And I move at PS9. Is not so difficult to dodge 3 times a BMST. Expecially if are mounted into Z-95. I mean, why those friends are still alive?

The answer is just one: skill. I don't think I will get out Fel just for these guys.

I'm not acid. I'm just saying that if there's an occasion to get grown in the game thanks to some new toys, I happily get it (:

It's easy enough when he uses PTL and she knows where he is when she sets her dial next round. She doesn't have to trigger her pilot ability at all to slice the Baron to death.

Not so easy. BMST works on R2, Asajj works on a single arc at R2. And I move at PS9. Is not so difficult to dodge 3 times a BMST. Expecially if are mounted into Z-95. I mean, why those friends are still alive?

The answer is just one: skill. I don't think I will get out Fel just for these guys.

I'm not acid. I'm just saying that if there's an occasion to get grown in the game thanks to some new toys, I happily get it (:

Umm.

You don't move until PS9 and you'll have a stress virtually all the time from PTL. All they have to do is get within range 2 of you before you move, and take an action to slice you.

That's rarely that tough. Being able to do it successfully 3 times can just be 3 turns. Or it can be infinite turns, and that's the issue I have with slicers.

It's easy enough when he uses PTL and she knows where he is when she sets her dial next round. She doesn't have to trigger her pilot ability at all to slice the Baron to death.

Not so easy. BMST works on R2, Asajj works on a single arc at R2. And I move at PS9. Is not so difficult to dodge 3 times a BMST. Expecially if are mounted into Z-95. I mean, why those friends are still alive?

The answer is just one: skill. I don't think I will get out Fel just for these guys.

I'm not acid. I'm just saying that if there's an occasion to get grown in the game thanks to some new toys, I happily get it (:

Umm.

You don't move until PS9 and you'll have a stress virtually all the time from PTL. All they have to do is get within range 2 of you before you move, and take an action to slice you.

That's rarely that tough. Being able to do it successfully 3 times can just be 3 turns. Or it can be infinite turns, and that's the issue I have with slicers.

if you can't dodge it, don't do PTL. It is playable I thik

It's easy enough when he uses PTL and she knows where he is when she sets her dial next round. She doesn't have to trigger her pilot ability at all to slice the Baron to death.

Not so easy. BMST works on R2, Asajj works on a single arc at R2. And I move at PS9. Is not so difficult to dodge 3 times a BMST. Expecially if are mounted into Z-95. I mean, why those friends are still alive?

The answer is just one: skill. I don't think I will get out Fel just for these guys.

I'm not acid. I'm just saying that if there's an occasion to get grown in the game thanks to some new toys, I happily get it (:

Umm.

You don't move until PS9 and you'll have a stress virtually all the time from PTL. All they have to do is get within range 2 of you before you move, and take an action to slice you.

That's rarely that tough. Being able to do it successfully 3 times can just be 3 turns. Or it can be infinite turns, and that's the issue I have with slicers.

if you can't dodge it, don't do PTL. It is playable I thik

If you don't PTL with soontir you explode, most of the time.

It's easy enough when he uses PTL and she knows where he is when she sets her dial next round. She doesn't have to trigger her pilot ability at all to slice the Baron to death.

Not so easy. BMST works on R2, Asajj works on a single arc at R2. And I move at PS9. Is not so difficult to dodge 3 times a BMST. Expecially if are mounted into Z-95. I mean, why those friends are still alive?

The answer is just one: skill. I don't think I will get out Fel just for these guys.

I'm not acid. I'm just saying that if there's an occasion to get grown in the game thanks to some new toys, I happily get it (:

Umm.

You don't move until PS9 and you'll have a stress virtually all the time from PTL. All they have to do is get within range 2 of you before you move, and take an action to slice you.

That's rarely that tough. Being able to do it successfully 3 times can just be 3 turns. Or it can be infinite turns, and that's the issue I have with slicers.

if you can't dodge it, don't do PTL. It is playable I thik

If you don't PTL with soontir you explode, most of the time.

And that's the skill I was meaning before

Anybody talking about rebels with Slicers? No? Hmm, strange.

ORS and StressHog seem like a match made in heaven. Except ORS still sucks...I guess you can't have it all.

ORS can tactician slicer .

ORS can EI Tactician Chopper Slicer (LOL)

Pretty terrible still.

Edited by Lampyridae

Anybody talking about rebels with Slicers? No? Hmm, strange.

ORS and StressHog seem like a match made in heaven. Except ORS still sucks...I guess you can't have it all.

ORS can tactician slicer .

Wild Space Fringer can Flechette Cannon Slicer.

Ghost can Chopper Slicer.

Ghost can't slicer at all.

Anybody talking about rebels with Slicers? No? Hmm, strange.

ORS and StressHog seem like a match made in heaven. Except ORS still sucks...I guess you can't have it all.

ORS can tactician slicer .

Wild Space Fringer can Flechette Cannon Slicer.

Ghost can Chopper Slicer.

Ghost can't slicer at all.

Can I slicer?

Edited by The Penguin UK

i can has slicer

Really? Look, of ptl was like 3 points, but every time you use at range 1-2 of an enemy ship, roll a die, If you roll damagez take damage. Would people still use it? The answer is Yes.

Now factor that bmst isny free. Cost, slot and action

Can we call it BMT, like the sub snack?