Advice on tournement list for tomorrow

By Everyday Ace, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Hi Everybody

I am going to a tournement tomorrow and could use some advice reguarding which of my two possible lists I should use. Both lists depend heavily on regeneration ability of Poe (R5-P9) and Ello (R2-D2). I do not know, what I will be facing, but probably lists of aces, big ships, TLTs and swarms, so what would you pick from these two lists?

Here are my two lists:

List nr. 1

XT-70 Ello Asty - VI, R2-D2, IA

XT-70 Ello Asty - VI, R5-P9, IA

A-wing - Chaardan Refit
A-wing - Chaardan Refit

The idea is to use the two A-wings as blockers and use my two regenating aces to kill the blocked opponents

List 2 nr. 2

XT-70 Ello Asty - VI, R2-D2, AT

XT-70 Ello Asty - VI, R5-P9, AT

X Biggs Darklighter - R4-D6, IA

This List is even more defensive with Biggs taking the blunt of the opponents attacks and making my aces even more survivable with Autothrusters

What are your thoughts?

Reguards

Everyday Ace

Edited by Everyday Ace

Not sure why Ello Asty is listed twice in each list?

He is a named pilot therefore only one per list.

(I assume the second instance of Ello in each list is actually Poe.)

I think the second list is much stronger. But I don't like VI on both of your aces, and I'm unsure about AT. It would be nice to be able to get Predator onto Poe, dropping one of the AT for IA would allow that.

Looking at the lists you are expecting to face:

  • Aces: Imperial Aces will have a bid and give you initiative. Soontir or stock Vader can arc-dodge your VI Ello. Adaptability or VI Vader will arc-dodge both of your aces. IA is probably better on Ello than AT because Soontir and Vader will both want to be firing at range 1, and if you face the Inquisitor his shots are always at range 1.
  • Dengaroo: Will also have a bid and give you initiative. VI Ello can't arc-dodge Dengar. VI Poe can, but Poe wants to be able to focus, not boost. Autothrusters helps against Dengaroo more than IA because turrets.
  • Other big ships: Won't have a PS higher than about 6 or 8, unless someone brings Han. Some have turrets, so AT is probably better.
  • TLTs: VI is useless. They are going to be PS 2, with maybe a Kavil thrown in. Here AT are better than IA, hands down.
  • Swarms: Again, VI won't really help you. I think AT won't help a whole lot here. Most of the range 3 shots will be in the first pass, when you still have Biggs. After that, it will be a knife fight, like all games with swarms.

That's my thoughts on it.

Not sure what cards you have access too but I have been feeling down on Autothrusters. Turrets are becoming less popular. Not sure how you plan to fly this list either. so... I am a big fan of four ship lists but it doesn't seem like your going for much offence. I would argue the a-wings are more defensive than running Biggs if you are in fact a good blocker. Biggs is great for the opening exchange but you you'll need to joust. I like the T-70s with Predator instead of VI too because my x-wings hit like wet noodles. I would even consider draw their fire since you have so much regen. At the end of the day you are going to want to focus for defense and hope you don't roll three eyes on your attack.

The other thing I see is more personal preference but at some point Ello will break formation. So your list with biggs slowly separates either with bigs dying or Ello talon rolling away. With 2 a-wings they can still fly around with Poe and give blocks and create more of a mess of the battle field. I'm mostly ranting here but I am voting for Ello, Poe, and the two a-wings.

Poe Dameron (PS8 Version) + R5-P9 + Draw Their Fire + Integrated Astromech (35)
Ello Asty + R2-D2 + Veteran Instincts + Integrated Astromech (35)
Prototype Pilot + Chardaan Refit (15)
Prototype Pilot + Chardaan Refit (15)

Thank you all very much for your advice :)

And your are of cause right - it was Poe with R5-P9

Be cause I am a new player Biggs is probably more secure bet than A-wings. Thinking Ello will not arc dodge many aces and will fly a lot of green maneuvers, so I will put PTL and IA on him and PTL can also be devesting when he talon rolls and has two actions. I will keep VI on Poe because he can arc dodge, when he uses boost instead of focus. My list will then be

XT-70 Ello Asty - PTL, R2-D2, IA

XT-70 Poe - VI, R5-P9, AT

X Biggs Darklighter - R4-D6, IA

Edited by Everyday Ace

Thank you all very much for your advice :)

And your are of cause right - it was Poe with R5-P9

Be cause I am a new player Biggs is probably more secure bet than A-wings. Thinking Ello will not arc dodge many aces and will fly a lot of green maneuvers, so I will put PTL and IA on him and PTL can also be devesting when he talon rolls and has two actions. I will keep VI on Poe because he can arc dodge, when he uses boost instead of focus. My list will then be

XT-70 Ello Asty - PTL, R2-D2, IA

XT-70 Poe - VI, R5-P9, AT

X Biggs Darklighter - R4-D6, IA

Push the limit is not a good idea on Ello unless you are running Pattern Analyzer.

In my experience, predator is better than push the limit on x-wings. They are so dependent on k-turns/tallon-rolls, that push the limit ends up hindering your position more than helping.

As to the list itself, your list still falls down against highly positional aces. PS10 Poe doesn't cut it in my experience (at least not against really strong players). Either get R3-A2 into the list or give your x-wings flechette torpedoes.

Here's how I'd run it (assuming Heroes of the Resistance is available):

Poe w/ predator, R5-P9 & autothrusters = 39

Nien Numb w/ snap shot, R3-A2, sensor cluster & IA = 35

Biggs w/ R4-D6 & IA = 26

100

In absence of Heroes of the Resistance, then you could do:

Poe w/ predator, R5-P9, flechette torps & autothrusters = 41

Red Vet w/ crack shot, sensor cluster, flechette torps, targeting astro & IA = 33

Biggs w/ R4-D6 & IA = 26

100

In fact, you could also run three of those Red Veterans, since together they are 99 points, and having 3 flechette torps can really ruin certain lists. You'd really struggle against Dash and Dengaroo though. But running 3 x-wings means you are probably going to struggle against those no matter what...