Obi Wan Kenobi, I must go alone. Discussion

By krzykoopa, in Imperial Assault Skirmish

Earlier this week we spoke about Jyn and some strategy. This time I want to focus on Obi Wan and his ways of the force.

His skirmish and command card.

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7 cost for 12 health and a black die with a static surge cancel!! With a speed of 4 he is not slow nor fast, Obi is a melee attacker with a 3 die pool RGY with 2 surge abilities +2 damage, Pierce 3. Obi has 2 innate abilities 1 Into the force: when Obi dies ANY friendly figure anywhere gets focused and 2 Alter mind: "low" cost baddies loose control and interaction.

Everything about this card is good to me not a single downside. I like to use Obi somewhat aggressive, finding a way to threaten their higher costed figures. Every now and then my strategy changes depending on the map and I will use him as an objective blocker. This brings me to his command card "I must go alone". I actually never used it, I have included it in my list a few games but it didn't come up. When making a command deck I always just gloss over it now. Am I making a mistake? I hope I can glean some insight from fellow members.

Another talking point is Diala.

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Other members have mentioned how they are the same cost, trait, attack type. Does this mean Diala is completely replaced? Is there enough room for both in a list? Would you ever take Diala over Obi? Is Sarlacc Sweep enough to carry Diala into a list?

I have to think on it more but I still really like Diala, rerolling her white die and removing a defense die I find extremely useful. I would love to hear everyones thoughts.

I played a bit with Diala early on (before there was enough Force Users to make a real list with them - but there was Luke and Diala). I found she did die quite quickly, so I think the trick to her, is to sneak about a bit. She does come with 5 speed and recovery, however with her attack dice, she doesn't roll a lot of surges, so using them on recover seems slightly pointless. Her "element of surprise" attack is good, and is focused odds are good for a cleave that can't be negated. Obi Wan seems more capable of sitting in the thick of it, with Black + Surge Cancel and plus 50% HP.

I think they have very different roles, but I also think Diala is a little on the weak side. 10 HP and RY would have been better. Really, her low odds of making a surge combined with low HP makes the recovery quite useless. She is a Brawler though, which gives her access to a few more good close quarter cards.

GREEN has a 50% of getting a surge. RED has a 17%, you will have to pick your opponents carefully with any melee unit I believe just because you need to be adjacent. Some have auto surge cancel, etc. I think with Diala, it is nice to be able to ignore the white die. I think you'd prefer to be focused regardless just for more damage (esp if you're going to do shattering blow)

There's no question Obiwan is more efficient points wise and straight up being able to deal out damage. His ability to control terminals and cancel others control is awesome as well. I do believe that Diala in certain lists (We all know that what's in a list and how they interact is super important) can go unnoticed more. People know Obiwan is a threat, they know Davith is a threat, they are aware of the position Luke or Leia can play etc. I believe Diala still fills a role, and even shines against certain opposition. But she may get left out if the points get tight. Her command card is fantastic, Obiwan's I never include because I there are so many other 1pt cards that I know I will use. If it was 0pts I'd probably take it more.