Dauntless - stress if do not do an action?

By SaszaPL, in X-Wing Rules Questions

One short question about the Dauntless title for VT-49.

If, after a bump, I declare a boost action, but I am not able to finish this boost legally (i.e. there's an obstacle I would overlap) and I do not decide to do any other action, do I still get stress? For me, I think yes, because with the measurement I have done, I already "started" the sequence of Dauntless, hence I need to finish it (despite the fact of using or not my action).

What is your view?

I'm thinking (hoping) that you do not get the stress because of the use of "Then". I'm interpreting it as if the "perform" qualifier must be fulfilled before the stress is given. If you do not complete the boost, you are not performing the free action...

But, if your scenario would play out, I would probably rather have a focus or target lock then not do any action AND still get the stress.

You are right, what I am more thinking about is that the VT-49 player is bound to use an action after a bump if he checked a boost availability (as you cannot do such action normally, after a bump). Then, due to the word 'may' you may either perform an action or not, but then you get a stress. You already started a Dauntless sequence, and even though you could not perform the action you wanted, you will get stress. Otherwise you could make an attempt to measure the distance and then decide that you don't do any actions.. I think that this is an advantage that should not happen.

And, to be clear - I am playing VT-49, just building a list and wondering about the title...

If you choose to use Dauntless to perform a free action after an overlap, you get the stress only if you can actually perform said action. If you don't perform the free action, then you don't get the stress, but you would skip your Perform Action step because of the overlap. It has nothing to do with whether you " started the Dauntless sequence " or not.

I see both sides.

Is there a precedent? There has to be.. I'm at work or I'd go through a bunch of cards to see.

The funny thing is that for sure you may not take an action but do take the stress...

Your EPT is Wired. You just bumped into Jax, hence you cannot do Focus and he has Cpt.Kagi in your range 3, which is already TL'ed by yourself. Technically, you could do another TL Kagi, but you do not need to do that to get stress. Performing an action out of Dauntless is optional (the wording is " ... after you bump you may perform 1 free action. Then receive stress token. ").

The wording is not " after you performed the action, get a stress token " hence it is not the action that is a condition for stress. Therefore, one could assume that you need to declare that you use your Dauntless title. Since you did you will get a stress, no matter if you did complete the Boost (from Engine Upgrade of course) or not. If you cannot do it legally, you may potentially do a Focus or TL, or other action described by your upgrade cards or damage cards.

I see both sides.

Is there a precedent? There has to be.. I'm at work or I'd go through a bunch of cards to see.

PTLing to try to target lock someone and failing - if you don't successfully get the TL, and you choose not to use the action, you don't get the stress.

For that matter PTLing to boost or barrel roll and failing in exactly the same way.

I see both sides.

Is there a precedent? There has to be.. I'm at work or I'd go through a bunch of cards to see.

PTLing to try to target lock someone and failing - if you don't successfully get the TL, and you choose not to use the action, you don't get the stress.

For that matter PTLing to boost or barrel roll and failing in exactly the same way.

Boom. Thank you, sir.

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The funny thing is that for sure you may not take an action but do take the stress...

Your EPT is Wired. You just bumped into Jax, hence you cannot do Focus and he has Cpt.Kagi in your range 3, which is already TL'ed by yourself. Technically, you could do another TL Kagi, but you do not need to do that to get stress. Performing an action out of Dauntless is optional (the wording is " ... after you bump you may perform 1 free action. Then receive stress token. ").

The wording is not " after you performed the action, get a stress token " hence it is not the action that is a condition for stress. Therefore, one could assume that you need to declare that you use your Dauntless title. Since you did you will get a stress, no matter if you did complete the Boost (from Engine Upgrade of course) or not. If you cannot do it legally, you may potentially do a Focus or TL, or other action described by your upgrade cards or damage cards.

Let me get this straight. You're saying that you can use Dauntless to not perform an action, but just to gain a stress token so that Wired can be used?

Sort of. Though, I see my mistake now, thanks guys and sorry for stupid confusion if caused anywhere..

Just to clarify: if you can't perform the action via Dauntless that you wanted to, you don't get the stress and are free to do another action. Or none.

Yes, that's right :)

Edited by SaszaPL