Just now, NobodyInParticular said:

That reminds me: can Admonition spend a defense token, resolve its effect, then discard that same token to cancel a die?

Sure can. As long as its still in the "Spend Defense Tokens" step.

Just now, Drasnighta said:

Sure can. As long as its still in the "Spend Defense Tokens" step.

Thanks!

14 minutes ago, Parkdaddy said:

I believe the way Ian Gross phrased it was, "it is not the squadron activation, it is a side effect of the command." Or something to that effect, with the movement stipulation.

*Pssssst* It's Ian Cross.

I did giggle a little at that though.

2 minutes ago, NobodyInParticular said:

Thanks!

Of course, further stipulation - that only applies to tokens that are Green at the start... You can Spend, say, the Evade, to make it go from Green to Red, and then Discard it as a Red token to resolve Admonition.

The moment you spend a Red Token, its discarded - ergo, it does not exist for you to Discard on the Admonition effect.

1 minute ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

*Pssssst* It's Ian Cross.

I did giggle a little at that though.

Ah, well that explains why he looked pissed every time I asked him a question

Just now, Drasnighta said:

Of course, further stipulation - that only applies to tokens that are Green at the start... You can Spend, say, the Evade, to make it go from Green to Red, and then Discard it as a Red token to resolve Admonition.

The moment you spend a Red Token, its discarded - ergo, it does not exist for you to Discard on the Admonition effect.

Yep, I figured that part was certain if the ability to do both was possible. Since otherwise that would be two effects in the same action. As far as I know the only time that can happen is the Navigate command, where you change speed/add a notch.

21 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Because unfortunately, as those are done by different people again to the rules people - we have a long, sordid, torrid history of them being blatantly wrong...

(My favourite was Foresight spending two Evades at long range to cancel 4 dice...)

Right. My hope was the rules people would be the ones doing it. Perhaps in conjunction with the articles people for support on the graphics.

Which, it's probably too much since the rules department is one guy. But it would be much less frustrating than waiting 4 months to see how a card works.

21 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

It would be a wonderful idea. Perhaps its something I'll explore when I am ready to dive into bloggy stuff...

I would read it. Lots of instances I'd love to see a well developed example of some of the trickier rules examples.

26 minutes ago, NobodyInParticular said:

That reminds me: can Admonition spend a defense token, resolve its effect, then discard that same token to cancel a die?

Yes.

Edit: Oh hey, there's a whole other page where people already answered this.

Just now, Valca said:

Yes.

You were ninja'd, but thanks!

Time to break out this thread again?

The Wave 5 FAQ--and previous record-holder--was 120 days delayed. We're now at 126 days since 6 July, when Wave 6 dropped.

Excellent. I was just thinking about this thread yesterday.

The thing I can't figure is why is this always so very bad? It's not that difficult to release an FAQ pretty much immediately upon wave release for obvious questions (see: Sloane's use, for example) that can be anticipated and then a few months later if anything else came up. Heck, get the community involved. Put @Drasnighta in charge of the FAQ collection and get things done!

Let's get the FAQ council back together.

12 minutes ago, Snipafist said:

The thing I can't figure is why is this always so very bad? It's not that difficult to release an FAQ pretty much immediately upon wave release for obvious questions (see: Sloane's use, for example) that can be anticipated and then a few months later if anything else came up. Heck, get the community involved. Put @Drasnighta in charge of the FAQ collection and get things done!

Yeah, that's what I don't understand. Collecting the questions and answering them in a concise manner seems like a job that would take, what, three half-days? I do professional writing for a large corporation, and for real this stuff is not difficult as long as you understand the game.

56 minutes ago, Snipafist said:

The thing I can't figure is why is this always so very bad? It's not that difficult to release an FAQ pretty much immediately upon wave release for obvious questions (see: Sloane's use, for example) that can be anticipated and then a few months later if anything else came up. Heck, get the community involved. Put @Drasnighta in charge of the FAQ collection and get things done!

There has to be a list of questions that came up over the course of play testing. It can't be that difficult to go over that list and have a short FAQ ready for and with each new release.

Well, I know it probably fell on deaf ears but I just sent their customer service an e-mail. Straight up, a bunch of people saw the news about the release being delayed and said they're considering leaving armada. Quoted lack of interaction from FFG as a source. The FAQs aren't timely, technically the regional dates aren't officially posted on their webpage. Lack of foresight with regional scheduling. Delays and just straight lack of interaction...

Anyways... might be a good idea to follow suit. Maybe if they get enough e-mails warning them that they're on the verge of losing customers it will spark some action.

1 hour ago, Megatronrex said:

There has to be a list of questions that came up over the course of play testing. It can't be that difficult to go over that list and have a short FAQ ready for and with each new release.

It would be smart if they did have someone reading through the forums when they spoil cards to see places where the community has questions about card interactions. Its an instant feedback mechanism they should be exploiting.

41 minutes ago, Darth Sanguis said:

Well, I know it probably fell on deaf ears but I just sent their customer service an e-mail. Straight up, a bunch of people saw the news about the release being delayed and said they're considering leaving armada. Quoted lack of interaction from FFG as a source. The FAQs aren't timely, technically the regional dates aren't officially posted on their webpage. Lack of foresight with regional scheduling. Delays and just straight lack of interaction...

Anyways... might be a good idea to follow suit. Maybe if they get enough e-mails warning them that they're on the verge of losing customers it will spark some action.

I went ahead and did the same. It can't hurt as long as it is civil and professional. If enough people take the time to do a well-articulated message, it might make it somewhere.

37 minutes ago, draco193 said:

It would be smart if they did have someone reading through the forums when they spoil cards to see places where the community has questions about card interactions. Its an instant feedback mechanism they should be exploiting.

I don't disagree, but they do have an official channel for submitting those questions. All they really need to do is actually use the already-existing mechanism for submitting rules questions--the form submission/email system--in anything resembling a timely manner. Not taking six months --encompassing half a Regionals season and Worlds--to answer obvious questions about cards that don't work anything like the words on the card, for example.

This keeps up it'll send Armada players into Admiral Nelson-esque rages....

As captured on video during wave 3/4:

51 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

I don't disagree, but they do have an official channel for submitting those questions. All they really need to do is actually use the already-existing mechanism for submitting rules questions--the form submission/email system--in anything resembling a timely manner. Not taking six months --encompassing half a Regionals season and Worlds--to answer obvious questions about cards that don't work anything like the words on the card, for example.

Yeah absolutely agree with this sentiment. I didn't know how RLB worked until my second game at Worlds last year. It was at that exact moment I realized that the FAQ for Armada, as well as the whole OP setup, was an unbelievably low priority. They vaunt Worlds as a premier tournament but couldn't even be bothered to fix egregious wordings that made cards practically unplayable. It downgrades their own tournaments from premier to beer league when the people travel from all over the world to compete don't even know what game they are going to end up playing. If I was FFG OP, I would be BEATING DOWN THE DOOR of whoever was writing the FAQ on a daily basis because not having it undermines the whole competitive atmosphere for the game.

7 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

Yeah absolutely agree with this sentiment. I didn't know how RLB worked until my second game at Worlds last year. It was at that exact moment I realized that the FAQ for Armada, as well as the whole OP setup, was an unbelievably low priority. They vaunt Worlds as a premier tournament but couldn't even be bothered to fix egregious wordings that made cards practically unplayable. It downgrades their own tournaments from premier to beer league when the people travel from all over the world to compete don't even know what game they are going to end up playing. If I was FFG OP, I would be BEATING DOWN THE DOOR of whoever was writing the FAQ on a daily basis because not having it undermines the whole competitive atmosphere for the game.

I would play in the Beer League!

7 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

I would play in the Beer League!

Count me in too!

17 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

I would play in the Beer League!

My FLGS is right next door to a pub and they've had discussions about hosting store tournaments there during the day. Plastic spaceships AND alcohol? YES PLEASE

4 hours ago, Snipafist said:

The thing I can't figure is why is this always so very bad? It's not that difficult to release an FAQ pretty much immediately upon wave release for obvious questions (see: Sloane's use, for example) that can be anticipated and then a few months later if anything else came up. Heck, get the community involved. Put @Drasnighta in charge of the FAQ collection and get things done!

Question.

With the community, generally, reacting with such negativity and creating, posting and replying in threads such as these:

Why should I care?

Why should I take my time and my effort and place it into the game I love, when all I see is people bathing in the negativity and rubbing my face in it?

I have done my absolute best, and my hardest to promote not only my local game playing community, but to support and encourage this online community at the same time. There was not a lot I could do online, but I've tried. I've really tried. There have been times I've been subject to horrendous abuse here. There are also times where this community has rallied and given me hope and encouragement.

But if the community is going to implode and react like this...

Why should I care?

Because I've already got all of the bundled documents and questions done. I'm not waiting for FFG to "make it official". I did it for the community, on my own, and I don't see the community deserving it.