It wasn't a price hike. What are you talking about retail has remained unchanged. All the did was raise their MAP. So that BMs could compete with volume online stores

It was a price hike, because I'm paying more. Retail price isn't the price of an item. Price is what the customer actually pays. And "so BM's could compete with volume online stores" is a straight up fabrication by FFG, considering they outright said "customers should pay more". If customers don't want pay more, FFG doesn''t want us as customers. The spokesman in the interview with the Dice Tower was explicit about this.

To be clear, it is perfectly OK for FFG to raise prices. I just don't like that they pretend they didn't raise prices when they actually did. I also don't like the lack of follow-up support via a FAQ.

Not to mention the lack of support AND a 25-33℅ price hike (in some cases much higher than that - see the prices for VSD's on Amazon vs pre-summer). It is bad enough for price hikes, worse to have it paired with worse support.

Are you in the UK by any chance? Because you can blame the Brexiteers for the crashing value of the Pound.

The latest casualty is is tea and Marmite; literally destroying the foundations of the country.

I'm in the US. Amazon, Miniature Market, CoolStuffInc all have the same price hike.

There's a big difference between a price hike and a reduction in discount. MSRP hasn't changed.

FFG did not raise prices. White not 100% accurate they effectively instituted a MAP policy. You paying more does not equal a price hike. That is the online retailers you frequent not willing to lose anymore margin. A price hike is an increase across all marketplaces which this is not.

This is making sure all retailers can be competitive with your product.

Warsaw Pact? (Definitely not.)

I think that Idaho is going to build a wall and make Dras pay for it.

Dras, you should dig a tunnel from Canada to the US and get your stuff a bit cheaper!

But I understand the dilemma now. I never considered shipping across borders, mainly because I never have had to do that.

I dig a tunnel across the border, and you know where I end up?

Either Northern Montana or, if my Aim is a little off... "Technically Idaho."

Who wants THAT?!

Well, Montana is miles and miles of beautiful if completely uninhabited country, and Idaho has some very nice root vegetables.

*looks around from his house in Bozeman, MT.*

Pretty much, yeah.

Warsaw Pact? (Definitely not.)

I think that Idaho is going to build a wall and make Dras pay for it.

Sorry, Warsaw Convention.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Convention

I just checked CoolStuffInc and their prices are the same on everything except the core set ($12 more) and ISD ($2 more). I find it unlikely that stores are increased as well. I was at Barnes and Noble yesterday and they list the full normal price that CoolStuffInc has. Who is having to pay more??

Prices are higher now vs last spring.

But you still think its unfair that you now have to pay what everyone else has to pay?

I never said anything about "fair". I said prices went up AND support has gotten worse.

It wasn't a price hike. What are you talking about retail has remained unchanged. All the did was raise their MAP. So that BMs could compete with volume online stores

It was a price hike, because I'm paying more. Retail price isn't the price of an item. Price is what the customer actually pays. And "so BM's could compete with volume online stores" is a straight up fabrication by FFG, considering they outright said "customers should pay more". If customers don't want pay more, FFG doesn''t want us as customers. The spokesman in the interview with the Dice Tower was explicit about this.

To be clear, it is perfectly OK for FFG to raise prices. I just don't like that they pretend they didn't raise prices when they actually did. I also don't like the lack of follow-up support via a FAQ.

Not to mention the lack of support AND a 25-33℅ price hike (in some cases much higher than that - see the prices for VSD's on Amazon vs pre-summer). It is bad enough for price hikes, worse to have it paired with worse support.

Are you in the UK by any chance? Because you can blame the Brexiteers for the crashing value of the Pound.

The latest casualty is is tea and Marmite; literally destroying the foundations of the country.

I'm in the US. Amazon, Miniature Market, CoolStuffInc all have the same price hike.

There's a big difference between a price hike and a reduction in discount. MSRP hasn't changed.

FFG did not raise prices. White not 100% accurate they effectively instituted a MAP policy. You paying more does not equal a price hike. That is the online retailers you frequent not willing to lose anymore margin. A price hike is an increase across all marketplaces which this is not.

This is making sure all retailers can be competitive with your product.

If the price I am paying is going up, you say that isn't a price hike? You don't get MSRP and basic macroeconomics. FFG raised prices to online sellers (by slashing their discount) and that cost is passed along to me.

MSRP is NOT the price. Price is what the item actually sells for.

I said prices went up AND support has gotten worse.

From your point of view.

From mine, prices have become more equitable and fair around the world, and the Support is about the same as its always been.

But you still think its unfair that you now have to pay what everyone else has to pay?

I never said anything about "fair". I said prices went up AND support has gotten worse.

They are altering the deal. Pray they don't alter it any further.

I said prices went up AND support has gotten worse.

From your point of view.

From mine, prices have become more equitable and fair around the world, and the Support is about the same as its always been.

That prices have gone up isn't a point of view. It is a provable fact.

It's "equitable" for the American customer to pay more just because you do?

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There are no words...

It's "equitable" for the American customer to pay more just because you do?

Its equitable for you to pay less just because some people gamed a system that the manufactured didn't think they should?

It's "equitable" for the American customer to pay more just because you do?

Its equitable for you to pay less just because some people gamed a system that the manufactured didn't think they should?

It wasn't a gamed system. Online retailers are just more efficient than brick and mortar.

FFG raised the price to the online rretailers so they could make more money. Can we just be honest that it is about bottom line and not about "equity" or "fairness"?

FFG rep said in an interview with the Dice Tower they want customers to pay more because paying more means they value the games more.

To be short on it:

We're not going to agree on anything here, because our situations are vastly different.

You see this as something that has happened to you, and it is reprehensable to you.

I see this as a situation where you had something awesome, and now you've merely got something good, and that's okay, because good is what I've had to put up with, just because.

I most definitely feel that its a bit of elitism... But I'm entitled to that opinion. Because my situation, in comparison, is crappy, and I am jealous. Your **** right I am jealous on where you've been.

Do I feel its a bit of vindication? Sure. I'll admit to schadenfreude... I'm a big enough man to do that.

I'm sorry you feel this is a travesty.

I'm sorry you feel you had your prices 'hiked' on you.

And, most of all, I am sorry that, because my situation has been, and will continue to be, worse than the way you still have it... I will continue to be jealous.

Enough on it, though - I'm going to take that fact - The Fact that I AM CLEARLY IN THE WRONG HERE, and walk from the Thread.

Caring about fairness is a great way to get yourself manipulated by a for-profit corporation that is trying to make as much money as possible.

Fairness is a losing game, because life isn't fair.

Prices went up. That's life. But I don't like how FFG can lie through its teeth to say it's as fairness, when they talk out of both sides of their mouths. In one breath they say it is equitable, the next it is about customers paying more or they don't want us as customers

To be short on it:

We're not going to agree on anything here, because our situations are vastly different.

You see this as something that has happened to you, and it is reprehensable to you.

I see this as a situation where you had something awesome, and now you've merely got something good, and that's okay, because good is what I've had to put up with, just because.

I most definitely feel that its a bit of elitism... But I'm entitled to that opinion. Because my situation, in comparison, is crappy, and I am jealous. Your **** right I am jealous on where you've been.

Do I feel its a bit of vindication? Sure. I'll admit to schadenfreude... I'm a big enough man to do that.

I'm sorry you feel this is a travesty.

I'm sorry you feel you had your prices 'hiked' on you.

And, most of all, I am sorry that, because my situation has been, and will continue to be, worse than the way you still have it... I will continue to be jealous.

Enough on it, though - I'm going to take that fact - The Fact that I AM CLEARLY IN THE WRONG HERE, and walk from the Thread.

This isn't reprehensible to me at all. I haven't been wronged. It isn't personal. FFG can raise prices any time they want.

I said prices went up AND support has gotten worse.

From your point of view.

From mine, prices have become more equitable and fair around the world, and the Support is about the same as its always been.

That prices have gone up isn't a point of view. It is a provable fact.

It's "equitable" for the American customer to pay more just because you do?

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There are no words...

Well, if Americans are paying closer to what Canadians pay, then - yes, it's more equitable. You might not have an interest in equitable, but it is more equitable.

I'm an American buyer, and the prices haven't gone up for me. I buy from B&Ms, because they provide me a place to play.

The stated point was to make online buyers pay a price closer to what B&M buyers pay. You can impute a different motive, that's fine, but you can't prove it.

But, anyway, that's a whole other debate, for which there are a ton of other threads - some of which were locked and/or deleted as I recall. This is a thread about FAQs.

I think it would be nice to have a new FAQ. I'm not losing any sleep because they haven't published one. Are you?

I haven't slept in weeks. Each night, the darkness licks at my soul, whispering "When does G8 trigger? How the **** does fire-control teams work?"

I just checked CoolStuffInc and their prices are the same on everything except the core set ($12 more) and ISD ($2 more). I find it unlikely that stores are increased as well. I was at Barnes and Noble yesterday and they list the full normal price that CoolStuffInc has. Who is having to pay more??

Prices are higher now vs last spring.

No they aren't. They are the same on CoolStuffInc, except for the ones I listed. And the prices are the same on Amazon. Do you have any proof? Because I can show you what I paid, and what they are now.

I haven't slept in weeks. Each night, the darkness licks at my soul, whispering "When does G8 trigger? How the **** does fire-control teams work?"

This thread has been hijacked. We are talking about Armada prices, not silly questions.

I guess I'll just try and figure out fire control teams on my own. The darkness says I'll need lighter fluid and a zippo. Anyone got a zippo?

I guess I'll just try and figure out fire control teams on my own. The darkness says I'll need lighter fluid and a zippo. Anyone got a zippo?

Just trigger as many crits as you have icons and go from there.

I don't need an FaQ. I just read the card.

I don't need an FaQ. I just read the card.

Explain to us how G8 works, and we will poke holes in your argument.

I don't need an FaQ. I just read the card.

Edit: you can start with this list. Just make sure there's no ambiguity in your interpretations, so that you can absolutely guarantee that TOs will see it your way every time, which is the whole point of asking for an FAQ instead of just shaking hands and agreeing on interpretations with your opponent.

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/230127-world-cup-qualifier-rule-and-signup-thread/?p=2415256

I said prices went up AND support has gotten worse.

From your point of view.

From mine, prices have become more equitable and fair around the world, and the Support is about the same as its always been.

That prices have gone up isn't a point of view. It is a provable fact.

It's "equitable" for the American customer to pay more just because you do?

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There are no words...

Your a very polite human