Days Since We Last Had To Make Up Rules As We Went Along: 0

By Ardaedhel, in Star Wars: Armada

Maybe they haven't released an FaQ because we don't need one?

That's a good point. But it is not accurate. We have frequently asked questions that are going unresolved, and the FAQ is an official document. Technically the emails don't actually count for anything.

They are probably working on adding the stuff from wave 5 into the FAQ

They are probably working on adding the stuff from wave 5 into the FAQ

Nope.

Maybe they haven't released an FaQ because we don't need one?

That's a good point. But it is not accurate. We have frequently asked questions that are going unresolved, and the FAQ is an official document. Technically the emails don't actually count for anything.

Also, far from everything has been answered in the emails. Off the top of my head: Fire Control Team interactions, G8 timing, G8 vs Engine Techs...

Calm down, its on the boat

It wasn't a price hike. What are you talking about retail has remained unchanged. All the did was raise their MAP. So that BMs could compete with volume online stores

It was a price hike, because I'm paying more. Retail price isn't the price of an item. Price is what the customer actually pays. And "so BM's could compete with volume online stores" is a straight up fabrication by FFG, considering they outright said "customers should pay more". If customers don't want pay more, FFG doesn''t want us as customers. The spokesman in the interview with the Dice Tower was explicit about this.

To be clear, it is perfectly OK for FFG to raise prices. I just don't like that they pretend they didn't raise prices when they actually did. I also don't like the lack of follow-up support via a FAQ.

Edited by SoonerTed

Not to mention the lack of support AND a 25-33℅ price hike (in some cases much higher than that - see the prices for VSD's on Amazon vs pre-summer). It is bad enough for price hikes, worse to have it paired with worse support.

Are you in the UK by any chance? Because you can blame the Brexiteers for the crashing value of the Pound.

The latest casualty is is tea and Marmite; literally destroying the foundations of the country.

I'm in the US. Amazon, Miniature Market, CoolStuffInc all have the same price hike.

Edited by SoonerTed

Not to mention the lack of support AND a 25-33℅ price hike (in some cases much higher than that - see the prices for VSD's on Amazon vs pre-summer). It is bad enough for price hikes, worse to have it paired with worse support.

Are you in the UK by any chance? Because you can blame the Brexiteers for the crashing value of the Pound.

The latest casualty is is tea and Marmite; literally destroying the foundations of the country.

I'm in the US. Amazon, Miniature Market, CoolStuffInc all have the same price hike.

How much are you paying on CoolStuffInc? That's where I get all my stuff and it's been the same price for a long time. I check weekly for any sales so I can grab some more stuff.

Not to mention the lack of support AND a 25-33℅ price hike (in some cases much higher than that - see the prices for VSD's on Amazon vs pre-summer). It is bad enough for price hikes, worse to have it paired with worse support.

Are you in the UK by any chance? Because you can blame the Brexiteers for the crashing value of the Pound.

The latest casualty is is tea and Marmite; literally destroying the foundations of the country.

I'm in the US. Amazon, Miniature Market, CoolStuffInc all have the same price hike.

There's a big difference between a price hike and a reduction in discount. MSRP hasn't changed.

Not to mention the lack of support AND a 25-33℅ price hike (in some cases much higher than that - see the prices for VSD's on Amazon vs pre-summer). It is bad enough for price hikes, worse to have it paired with worse support.

Are you in the UK by any chance? Because you can blame the Brexiteers for the crashing value of the Pound.

The latest casualty is is tea and Marmite; literally destroying the foundations of the country.

I'm in the US. Amazon, Miniature Market, CoolStuffInc all have the same price hike.

There's a big difference between a price hike and a reduction in discount. MSRP hasn't changed.

MSRP isn't the "price". The price is what the customer pays. The "S" in MSRP stands for "suggested". When FFG reduces the discount, stores have to charge more. Meaning the customer experiences a price hike.

But you still think its unfair that you now have to pay what everyone else has to pay?

But you still think its unfair that you now have to pay what everyone else has to pay?

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I just checked CoolStuffInc and their prices are the same on everything except the core set ($12 more) and ISD ($2 more). I find it unlikely that stores are increased as well. I was at Barnes and Noble yesterday and they list the full normal price that CoolStuffInc has. Who is having to pay more??

I just checked CoolStuffInc and their prices are the same on everything except the core set ($12 more) and ISD ($2 more). I find it unlikely that stores are increased as well. I was at Barnes and Noble yesterday and they list the full normal price that CoolStuffInc has. Who is having to pay more??

People outside of the United States who have to essentially pay not only a lousy exchange rate difference, but a premium fee to actually make the money exchange, or ludicrous shipping charges.

The Core of the Issue, as presented by Admodee/FFG in their announcement and media release (ie, not heresay)

Was that there were some distributors that were offering hefty discounts on their product, and were able to do so because these distributors and retailers did not have a physical presence, and were purely online only stores.

THOSE lost their ability to discount extremely beyond the MSRP. The Price of the MSRP was not increased. It was simply those stores and distributors that were discounting beyond what was considered reasonable for a brick and mortar store to do, were either switched over on distribution, or found their sources dried up. This was not an Armada thing, this was across the board on both FFG and Asmodee products. It was stated to be done to put the onus back on 'fair' play to Brick and Mortar stores, as they are the sites where Organised Play happens, where the actual teaching of the game and introduction to the market happens, where their share grows.

The comments on expense were related to the MSRP - they are a Premium Product, and you pay for it... This is why an Armada ISD which probably costs them only a few dollars to manufacture, paint and ship, retails for the price it does...

The trouble was, as FFG saw it - that it was fundamentally unfair to people who did not have access to the thriving online only market - which, honestly, was only a thing in the United States. Cross-Border Laws change everthing. This is an attempt to remake things 'fair' for a Worldwide distribution point.

Agree with it or not, (because that something I, as a retailer, do consider, and I agree with the Intent, but certainly, not the method) - that's not the issue at the point here. But that is what was presented......

Dras, you should dig a tunnel from Canada to the US and get your stuff a bit cheaper!

But I understand the dilemma now. I never considered shipping across borders, mainly because I never have had to do that.

Dras, you should dig a tunnel from Canada to the US and get your stuff a bit cheaper!

But I understand the dilemma now. I never considered shipping across borders, mainly because I never have had to do that.

I dig a tunnel across the border, and you know where I end up?

Either Northern Montana or, if my Aim is a little off... "Technically Idaho."

Who wants THAT?!

Dras, you should dig a tunnel from Canada to the US and get your stuff a bit cheaper!

But I understand the dilemma now. I never considered shipping across borders, mainly because I never have had to do that.

I dig a tunnel across the border, and you know where I end up?

Either Northern Montana or, if my Aim is a little off... "Technically Idaho."

Who wants THAT?!

Well, Montana is miles and miles of beautiful if completely uninhabited country, and Idaho has some very nice root vegetables.

Dras, you should dig a tunnel from Canada to the US and get your stuff a bit cheaper!

But I understand the dilemma now. I never considered shipping across borders, mainly because I never have had to do that.

I dig a tunnel across the border, and you know where I end up?

Either Northern Montana or, if my Aim is a little off... "Technically Idaho."

Who wants THAT?!

Well, Montana is miles and miles of beautiful if completely uninhabited country, and Idaho has some very nice root vegetables.

Ahem.

(I would not normally, but this was a softball pitch, man...)

I already have uninhabited country here, and based on the politics that hit my facebook page, saying I'm going to the US for the Vegetables is kind of redundant...

Which, of course, is hateful, and bigoted, and, above all, wrong.

I'm just a Jaded, Opinionated Southern Hemispherian stuck, literally, on the wrong side of the world....

Plus, the US Hates me so much they go out of their way to keep me out. That's gotta tell you something.

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I spend my days speculating on what Dras could've done to get himself on The List.

Current working theory is he's an Aussie double agent to the U.S. who got fingered and fled to Canada where he now lives incognito raising his toddler and parsing rules as written for his fortnightly Armada league while listening in to the radio traffic out of Minot.

That or he's black and got caught with an half ounce of weed. The severity of the crimes is pretty similar.

The problem basically stems from the fact that, once, I was honest.

I made an honest statement, my international rights (Under the Warsaw pact, I believe) were violated, and I was sent home.

So when someone in immigration asks you how much money you're bringing into the country.

DON'T say, "My Wallet was stolen on the Terminal in Melbourne, and I don't have any money on me... Here are my tickets, and my passport, and the letter of invite I have, and here's the people to call who I am staying with who will vouch and say that I don't require money, and they are putting me up until my parents overnight-express me my spare VISA card, which I can quote the number of for you, so I can access money online...."

Because they'll assume you're a lowlife lying, tie you up in immigration for 4 hours, handcuff you, and frogmarch you through the airport, to dump you back on the plane back to Australia that you just spent 18 Hours on, flying over there...... Without an opportunity call the Australian Consulate, which is a right given to all travellers under the Warsaw pact.

Whereas, you know, if I lied, and said, "Got a couple of Credit Cards, 10k limit"... I'd have walked in without a question.

The situation, is of course, more complicated than that... I used to hold a security clearance, which means my names already on lists when I transit country to country... BUT, that situation above, basically got them to mis-read who I was, and tag me onto a list that flags me additional times when I want to cross into or out of the United States. One of those things that, "Have you ever been Deported before?" - Technically, yes.

Huge utter misunderstanding, but attempting to fight it then (and now) is outside of my price range, since it deals with international matters.

Any other normal person in my situation, could just pay the $40 or whatever it is now for a 3 year VISA Waiver, and enter on that...

I go to do that, and I need to contact a representative of the TSA.

So that's the short of it, as far as I understand it, because frankly, I don't bloody understand it... It just is... I live with it...

That's just what a spy would say...

That's just what a spy would say...

Mission accomplished, then... because I've never done an illicit drug in my life.

Ugh Dras. I had to go thorough the most insane rigmarole to get my wife (who is a German National) here to the US to marry me. Took 2 years and the amount of money and paperwork involved was completely ridiculous. I sympathize.

Ugh Dras. I had to go thorough the most insane rigmarole to get my wife (who is a German National) here to the US to marry me. Took 2 years and the amount of money and paperwork involved was completely ridiculous. I sympathize.

Indeed, man - I sympathize with you...

My Wife (until last year) was American.

I met her here in Canada.

We got her to Australia to Marry, which took close to 12 months... But we did... We lived therefor a few years, before she moved back here to Canada, where she had been living beforehand, and endeavoured to get me over there... Because her schooling here was (factors of 10) cheaper than in Australia for what she wanted to study.

But the routine 6mo application took exactly 13 months and 13 days before I was over in Canada.

And now, with a bunch of other stuff happening, we're currently stuck here...

BUT. She's now Canadian, and not American... My Toddler is join Australian-Canadian, so regardless on wether we can get back to Australia or not, he will have his rights...

Ugh Dras. I had to go thorough the most insane rigmarole to get my wife (who is a German National) here to the US to marry me. Took 2 years and the amount of money and paperwork involved was completely ridiculous. I sympathize.

Indeed, man - I sympathize with you...

My Wife (until last year) was American.

I met her here in Canada.

We got her to Australia to Marry, which took close to 12 months... But we did... We lived therefor a few years, before she moved back here to Canada, where she had been living beforehand, and endeavoured to get me over there... Because her schooling here was (factors of 10) cheaper than in Australia for what she wanted to study.

But the routine 6mo application took exactly 13 months and 13 days before I was over in Canada.

And now, with a bunch of other stuff happening, we're currently stuck here...

BUT. She's now Canadian, and not American... My Toddler is join Australian-Canadian, so regardless on wether we can get back to Australia or not, he will have his rights...

Well, I'm in the initial stages of trying to move *to* Canada, on account of the better lifestyle and all the governmental and insidious racism that's reared its head in the UK.

I envy you that part, at least. (Not the nonsense with the deportation though, I am always losing my wallet, I really feel for you)