Days Since We Last Had To Make Up Rules As We Went Along: 0

By Ardaedhel, in Star Wars: Armada

1 hour ago, Ardaedhel said:

I don't disagree, but they do have an official channel for submitting those questions. All they really need to do is actually use the already-existing mechanism for submitting rules questions--the form submission/email system--in anything resembling a timely manner. Not taking six months --encompassing half a Regionals season and Worlds--to answer obvious questions about cards that don't work anything like the words on the card, for example.

Agreed. I think though a presence in the forums would help their PR issue a lot. It also could likely coalesce the number of issues more quickly than a trickle of emails could. The main point is they need to do a better job on getting official answers out in a reasonable time period

1 hour ago, Drasnighta said:

But if the community is going to implode and react like this...

Why should I care?

Because this isn't a community imploding, this is a number of players who love the game and have specific grievances with FFG, some of which we have calmly and politely registered for nigh on a year now with no response from FFG.

As for the rest of this, I personally thought it might give you hope and encourage you that so many of us feel that your rules analysis is delivered in a clean and logical way, which is far superior to what receive from FFG.

We just want to see the company that makes the game have as much passion about it as we do, especially when it seems like they have passion for every other competitive game they make except for armada.

Just, Iwas depressed before I logged in today.

Eventually I’m sure I’ll post it all.

Im just... destroyed by things at the moment.

11 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Just, Iwas depressed before I logged in today.

Eventually I’m sure I’ll post it all.

Im just... destroyed by things at the moment.

<3

2 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

Just, Iwas depressed before I logged in today.

Eventually I’m sure I’ll post it all.

Im just... destroyed by things at the moment.

You know you can always reach out to us on here. It's the least we can do, especially layabouts like me that just search the Rules forum and don't contribute to it.

UPDATE from my post earlier:

I sent an e-mail to their customer service department detailing some of the negative outbursts I've seen from Armada players, and the reasoning they had provided for that behavior in relation to customer interaction. I received this e-mail, at the very least, it may have helped to start an internal dialogue about interaction with the community.

Fingers crossed.

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Still need to write mine!

Edit: and sent!

Nothing harsh, just telling them to please look into whats going on with their community and to support us.

Edited by Karneck

le sigh

On 11/10/2017 at 11:53 AM, Darth Sanguis said:

UPDATE from my post earlier:

I sent an e-mail to their customer service department detailing some of the negative outbursts I've seen from Armada players, and the reasoning they had provided for that behavior in relation to customer interaction. I received this e-mail, at the very least, it may have helped to start an internal dialogue about interaction with the community.

Fingers crossed.

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This is a moment where we find optimists and pessimists. Is that response going to mean anything or is it just a hollow response that may get sent to higher ups but not found important enough to address?

From my point of view, I've sent these emails at my job before with mixed results. I'd like to think it will matter, but I don't think you'll see any immediate action on it. Sometimes change takes time... Or it falls on deaf ears.

Just now, Stasy said:

This is a moment where we find optimists and pessimists. Is that response going to mean anything or is it just a hollow response that may get sent to higher ups but not found important enough to address?

From my point of view, I've sent these emails at my job before with mixed results. I'd like to think it will matter, but I don't think you'll see any immediate action on it. Sometimes change takes time... Or it falls on deaf ears.

I'm on the pessimist side. I envision this: "Well, we're planning on articles leading up to the actual release like normal right?" "Yes." "And we expect those to start in January or February right?" "Yes" "Discussion had, problem solved, they can wait a little longer."

Best case scenario in my head is "You know what, they have a point, we've neglected this community and need to change our behavior. Let's get a committee together and have them start meeting in March. They can submit some proposals by June. We'll shoot to make a decision on which path to follow by October. And we can aim to implement those proposed solutions by 2020."

I'm disappointed by the lack of support, but what I see on the forum here isn't even really all that negative. People offering up suggestions. A strong community that is still communicating. Sure, complaints, by definition, are negative, but they are only occurring due to a lack of other things to talk about. Negative to me would be people posting "I'm quitting" stuff and name calling. That's not happening.

It's more of a disappointment, mild frustration, and nothing better to do but gripe about a lack of articles.

3 minutes ago, kmanweiss said:

I'm on the pessimist side. I envision this: "Well, we're planning on articles leading up to the actual release like normal right?" "Yes." "And we expect those to start in January or February right?" "Yes" "Discussion had, problem solved, they can wait a little longer."

Best case scenario in my head is "You know what, they have a point, we've neglected this community and need to change our behavior. Let's get a committee together and have them start meeting in March. They can submit some proposals by June. We'll shoot to make a decision on which path to follow by October. And we can aim to implement those proposed solutions by 2020."

I'm disappointed by the lack of support, but what I see on the forum here isn't even really all that negative. People offering up suggestions. A strong community that is still communicating. Sure, complaints, by definition, are negative, but they are only occurring due to a lack of other things to talk about. Negative to me would be people posting "I'm quitting" stuff and name calling. That's not happening.

It's more of a disappointment, mild frustration, and nothing better to do but gripe about a lack of articles.

The perceived death of IA because of Legion has a lot to blame in the current situation. Armada is not really under threat but because FFG have not confirmed ANYTHING about IA, the delay in Armada W7 and Destiny and Legion being pushed hard, there is a thought that Armada is starting to be dropped.

I doubt Armada will be, and I hope they also stick with IA, its just that Legion and Destiny need pushing hard the moment to make sure they are successful.

3 minutes ago, Gallanteer said:

The perceived death of IA because of Legion has a lot to blame in the current situation. Armada is not really under threat but because FFG have not confirmed ANYTHING about IA, the delay in Armada W7 and Destiny and Legion being pushed hard, there is a thought that Armada is starting to be dropped.

I doubt Armada will be, and I hope they also stick with IA, its just that Legion and Destiny need pushing hard the moment to make sure they are successful.

They are still working on the app and that will cause a boost to sales if you use Descent and it's app example. It's a bigger question if they will continue with physical expansions, which I think they will since they have a big investment in the IP.

20 minutes ago, Stasy said:

This is a moment where we find optimists and pessimists. Is that response going to mean anything or is it just a hollow response that may get sent to higher ups but not found important enough to address?

From my point of view, I've sent these emails at my job before with mixed results. I'd like to think it will matter, but I don't think you'll see any immediate action on it. Sometimes change takes time... Or it falls on deaf ears.

For the record, I consider myself still to be an optimist despite my being distraught - I'm just choosing to be an optimist who is stating clearly (and loudly) what they see as being an issue.

On 11/9/2017 at 1:31 PM, Snipafist said:

My FLGS is right next door to a pub and they've had discussions about hosting store tournaments there during the day. Plastic spaceships AND alcohol? YES PLEASE

Come to giga we have beer in store no need to even leave the threshold ????

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Someone’s just not feeling it today, eh?

1 minute ago, Drasnighta said:

Someone’s just not feeling it today, eh?

To their credit, FFG has never yet forced me to choose whether to actually stand by my personal policy of not buying a wave if the preceding wave has not been FAQed yet.

So, you know... credit where it's due, I guess.

Is this the thread where we're currently tracking the answers for wave 6 FAQs?

It's from May, I'm not too sure if anything has been clarified yet.

165 or 166?

or did I mess up my math?

I've got it at 165 based on this date and Google doing my math for me.

Just now, Ardaedhel said:

I've got it at 165 based on this date and Google doing my math for me.

Cool.

I havt slept in 32 hours and have a graveyard ahead of me, so navigating google was to much for me to think of doing ?

I love the new title. That is all.

You see most of us who went to competitive events with huge unaddressed rules questions were full of terror. But for @Drasnighta, well...

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I hope you know my kidding is good-natured, Dras. ;)

Seriously, though, thank God. And it looks like they even anticipated Raddus and Thrawn questions already, which is definitely a good sign.