So 4 regular Rangers, alliance smuggler and c-3po is the new trooper list

So 4 regular Rangers, alliance smuggler and c-3po is the new trooper list

3 maybe. 4 is probably too much. Diminishing returns. You only get 2 reinforcements in a deck.

You can already do 4 similar units (2x eStormtrooper + 2x eWing Guard) and you don't see that much.

I think list need variety to be properly competitive. You need something tough, you need something fast, you need something hard hitting. Troopers are a great baseline but they still need some support.

Especially now that we're getting more and more things that counter troopers like Jabba, Banthas, stuff with cleave etc...

So 4 regular Rangers, alliance smuggler and c-3po is the new trooper list

3 maybe. 4 is probably too much. Diminishing returns. You only get 2 reinforcements in a deck.

That's why Leia is great. You can keep recycling that card (and Grenadier).

~D

So 4 regular Rangers, alliance smuggler and c-3po is the new trooper list

3 maybe. 4 is probably too much. Diminishing returns. You only get 2 reinforcements in a deck.

You can already do 4 similar units (2x eStormtrooper + 2x eWing Guard) and you don't see that much.

I think list need variety to be properly competitive. You need something tough, you need something fast, you need something hard hitting. Troopers are a great baseline but they still need some support.

Especially now that we're getting more and more things that counter troopers like Jabba, Banthas, stuff with cleave etc...

I was typing with my tongue planted firmly in my cheek. I think 2 is the most I would get. The elite rebel troopers would be good to add. If everyone is coming after your long range rangers, it'll be nice to have some long range troopers with self-focusing abilities. The rest would be supportive units. Leia and c3po and Gideon would fit. Luke or Fenn would also be useful but probably not quite as effective.

So 4 regular Rangers, alliance smuggler and c-3po is the new trooper list

3 maybe. 4 is probably too much. Diminishing returns. You only get 2 reinforcements in a deck.

That's why Leia is great. You can keep recycling that card (and Grenadier).

~D

Yeah... except you can't fit Leia and 4 groups of Rangers. That's why 3 is probably the most useful.... but at the same time, Leia doesn't pair well with swarms.... you want her giving an extra attack to some big hitter usually.

So 4 regular Rangers, alliance smuggler and c-3po is the new trooper list

3 maybe. 4 is probably too much. Diminishing returns. You only get 2 reinforcements in a deck.

That's why Leia is great. You can keep recycling that card (and Grenadier).

~D

Yeah... except you can't fit Leia and 4 groups of Rangers. That's why 3 is probably the most useful.... but at the same time, Leia doesn't pair well with swarms.... you want her giving an extra attack to some big hitter usually.

Correct, I was referring to using 2 of them and using Leia to recycle those Trooper cards.

And yeah, a "big name" is nice, but would you rather take eRebel Troopers/rAlliance Rangers or Luke? Id rather take the others. Sure you get that extra dice roll, but thats a 3 dice attack against a 6 dice attack. Add in that eRebel Troopers can sel Focus, thats 4 dice compared to 9. 15 health compared to 10. Luke gets focused and dies, thats 1 figure to 3 figures.

Leia is just great to keep in the back next to C-3PO and be able to recycle cards.

~D

Each to their own. I think Rebel Troopers are one of the worst units in the game... even more so with Zillo everywhere. But I've had that discussion to death and don't want to start it up again.

Just keep in mind that there is a difference between 6 attacks that do 1 damage and 1 attack that does 6 damage. There are pros and cons to both and ultimately a balanced and flexible list will be the most competitive.

Each to their own. I think Rebel Troopers are one of the worst units in the game... even more so with Zillo everywhere. But I've had that discussion to death and don't want to start it up again.

Just keep in mind that there is a difference between 6 attacks that do 1 damage and 1 attack that does 6 damage. There are pros and cons to both and ultimately a balanced and flexible list will be the most competitive.

Oh Im not arguing one bit that out of all 3 troopers, Rebels are the bottom of the 3. If the 2 pierce was changed to 2 dmg or 1 dmg/1 pierce theyd be 10 fold better. And yes Zillo is great, but again its only a 1 time per rd use. You get 6 attacks.

And yes, you are correct about 6 attacks at 1 dmg and 1 attack at 6 dmg, but that 1 attack gets an X-man and now its 0 dmg. Even 2 X-man on 6 of those attacks still results in 4 dmg. So it plays both ways.

Like I said, the eRebel Troopers turn 2 when attacking are all rolling 3 dice. 6 figs rolling 18 dice is def a great result. Thats at least 4 range and thats at base 2-3 dmg before mods. But they do sputter if you dont take out some figs turn 2/3.

Thats why Ill be changing to the Allaince Rangers. They get the black dice. They have great range. Good rerolls. The Trooper AND Hunter keywords. So with drawing 2-4 cards per turn (I use Rebel High Command), Ill easily be buffing their attacks.

~D

I think a blend of the two would actually be the best combo. 2 reg Rangers, 1 eTrooper Leia, Gideon , RHC or 3PO. Or you could fit Luke and Gideon if that's your preference. I think the Echo Base Troopers could also work, but they don't self-focus. I think it's a starting point. 3 dice attacks are gross at range no matter what color, they chew through stuff, which is why the HKs and probe droids are hitting stride, they also get rerolls which is helpful. Having played HKs a bit, I do recognize the ability to flub a roll however, even with TC I've found myself rolling 4 surges and doing diddly squat. Usually, you can wipe out a guy though.

I think a blend of the two would actually be the best combo. 2 reg Rangers, 1 eTrooper Leia, Gideon , RHC or 3PO. Or you could fit Luke and Gideon if that's your preference. I think the Echo Base Troopers could also work, but they don't self-focus. I think it's a starting point. 3 dice attacks are gross at range no matter what color, they chew through stuff, which is why the HKs and probe droids are hitting stride, they also get rerolls which is helpful. Having played HKs a bit, I do recognize the ability to flub a roll however, even with TC I've found myself rolling 4 surges and doing diddly squat. Usually, you can wipe out a guy though.

Yep. My lists consist of:

Alliance Ranger x2 (currently eRebel Trooper)

Leia Organa

eRebel Saboteurs

Gideon Argus

C-3PO

Rebel High Command

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Ooh, I like that. I love the Rebel Sabs for their blast (everyone whines bc they have pierce 2 but I love the blast on them more than that, always have) they will be good bc of their speed and ability to get in front of the Rangers when the enemy closes in and are bunched up in a hallway. I still think the echo base troopers could be used to good effect, just due their enviromental movement and decent shot and health. I'd like to try them in some lists to get a better feel for them.

I've run double Sabs before which is a lot of fun, especially with Luke close by.

As a Merc player, I'm always trying to find a similar-role figure in their army. I think even with Jabba there may be some room for a few rebel crossovers.

I like using 3PO/Gideon to focus the sabs and the eRebel Troopers to self focus on turn 1. That gives 10 figs 3 dice roll for Rd 2 which is always crucial. I position the Sabs appropriately to run and grab interactions on map and dash for 5+ (Gideon/command moves) and then use Leia in the back to pop and shoot stuff and recycle cards. Ive gotten 5 Reinforcements off before to deny my opponent pts. Fun stuff. Ill give the Rangers a chance bc I feel like theyll do more dmg and survive a bit better, but we shall see!! :-)

~D

Scariest list I ever faced had eTroopersx2, Gideon, C3PO, Echo Base Troopers, Leia and something else in the Training Ground. I wasn't going to blow the door, so he had 2 rounds to position and focus everyone up. I think at least 9 3dice shots with decent accuracy.

Each to their own. I think Rebel Troopers are one of the worst units in the game... even more so with Zillo everywhere. But I've had that discussion to death and don't want to start it up again.

Just keep in mind that there is a difference between 6 attacks that do 1 damage and 1 attack that does 6 damage. There are pros and cons to both and ultimately a balanced and flexible list will be the most competitive.

I feel the exact same way. I am actually surprised people like them at all.