Just for fun, what do you think will win worlds

By Krynn007, in X-Wing

7 Cartel Spacers

Strongly suspect Palp-Defenders, though possibly with a change to include high PS to combat traditional Palp-Aces. Dengaroo will have a showing and maybe one or two triple U-Boats will be lucky enough to come through. Winning will be something like this:

Biggs Darklighter (25)
R4-D6 (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Wes Janson (29)
Veteran Instincts (1)
R3-A2 (2)
Vectored Thrusters (2)

Norra Wexley (29)
Push the Limit (3)
Tail Gunner (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Vectored Thrusters (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Total: 100

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Okay, probably not, but there will be at least one rebel 3 ship list based around Biggs going far. It might contain Braylen instead of Wes as the stronger ship versus Defenders and in general, but Wes provides strong abilities against Palp-Aces at PS10 and against U-Boats and OCR4 Dengar. It might have alpha-strike Miranda as the regen-ship or Poe, but I beieve Norra with her sickening ability to outtank 1v1 will be the best choice. Rebels have a very narrow toolbox, but it can bring them far.

2016 is year of Scum.

Multitudes of people haven't found this list trust me :)

I would say try me, but I know that's an exercise in futility. If you think discussing a list will weaken it, it's most likely not that strong of a list. And to think people will build to counter just that one list is even more asinine.

But if it truly is a gem in the rough, I'm more then happy to be stay in suspense with baited breath.

If your list only works as a surprise then it won't win because by round three it's not a surprise and by round four or five its been found out.

FWIW it seems like there's a lot in ShadowCaster at the moment, I've seen those demolish Defenders. If it's really a mass Defender-off then Unhinged Quad TLT might be the way to go.

Edited by Stay On The Leader

I'm not allowed to say what the list is but I think it's gonna do really well. #rooksquad

That's... helpful. :(

Edited by Blue Five

Me

I predict that the list that wins Worlds will be a well rounded list, with tools for dealing with each of the main archetypal meta lists (Palp aces, palp defenders, dengaroo, Rebel regen/control, etc), and that has a healthy dose of luck-mitigation. I predict that the player who wins will be someone who has practiced this list a lot, who knows it in and out, and who is good at reading both the meta and their opponents and countering them.

I wish I could post something more clever than that but thinking is hard at 6:00 in the morning. -__-

I'm not allowed to say what the list is but I think it's gonna do really well. #rooksquad

That really sounds like something children would say on the play ground. "I know a secret and I can't tell you". Why even bother posting then? Real men just keep their mouths shut and dont say anything at all

Edited by Krynn007

So this is the history as far as I know it......

2012 Doug Kinney: Vader, Howlrunner, Obsidian Squadron Pilot, TIE Academy Pilot X3

2013 Paul Heaver: Biggs, Dagger Squadron Pilot x2, X-Wing Rookie Pilot

2014 Paul Heaver: Han, Tala x3

2015 Paul Heaver: Poe, Gold Squadron TLT x2, Bandit Squadron Pilot

Although everyone loves or hates a consistent champ at the top, it would be nice to see new blood at the final table; not just in the winning player, but in the faction. Maybe the Scum take it for the first time or the Imperials finally wrestle it out of the op-ed Rebels hands, haha!

Edited by clanofwolves

I'm not allowed to say what the list is but I think it's gonna do really well. #rooksquad

I love when people do this. Congrats, you found a list most likely multitudes of others have found. But you think it's a secret weapon, will name it, and look the next mynock special is born.

It's so silly.

What will win? Hopefully a well deserving player. I don't care which list due to knowing each list has its limitations and know popping something down isn't insta win.

I think they are just trying to compensate for something. Their egos are bigger than their ....

Anyway I Think there will be min of 3 defender lists, a dengeraoo or two, palp aces, a ghost and Biggs,in top 16.

As to what will win, I don't know, but I do hope it's something unexpected, and no offense to heaver, but It would be nice to see someone else win for once.

Palp + Defenders FTW. Heck, if I can do well with it, I'm sure that better players than myself will wreck with it.

Me...I will win Worlds. No doubt in my mind.

Now all I have to do is go to Worlds.

Arvel Crynyd.

Paul Heaver with a new variation of 4 ship rebel squad that trumps everything.

See idk, I don't know if rebels have what it takes this time around, imperial and scum have gotten some nasties this time around

Palp Aces of varying types

Dengaroo

Scum lists with Manaroo or Party Bus

Biggs in almost every rebel list

Dash + Lothal Rebel

I'd like to see an ARC or two

What I would really like is something like what happened with Armada at nationals (I think): top table was lists that conventional wisdom said should be crushed by the meta. Also, expect whatever Paul Heaver flies to be a super popular list for a few months.

Paul Heaver with a new variation of 4 ship rebel squad that trumps everything.

Does Paul ever compete with a non rebel list? Serious question.

Paul Heaver with a new variation of 4 ship rebel squad that trumps everything.

Does Paul ever compete with a non rebel list? Serious question.

So far not at worlds, but at other venues, yes. He does seem to have a faible for 4 ship lists, I could imagine him running an imperial squadron with Palp and 3 other ships.

Edit: Interesting concept, how would you do that without resorting to the old Wampa, OL, Inquisitor standart, probably using the strong Defender? Simple draft:

Omicron Group Pilot (21)

Emperor Palpatine (8)

Colonel Vessery (35)

Crack Shot (1)

TIE/x7 (-2)

Omega Squadron Pilot (17)

Crack Shot (1)

Omega Squadron Pilot (17)

Crack Shot (1)

Total: 99

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Edited by Admiral Deathrain

I'm not allowed to say what the list is but I think it's gonna do really well. #rooksquad

I love when people do this. Congrats, you found a list most likely multitudes of others have found. But you think it's a secret weapon, will name it, and look the next mynock special is born.

It's so silly.

What will win? Hopefully a well deserving player. I don't care which list due to knowing each list has its limitations and know popping something down isn't insta win.

I'm gonna go way out of character here and take atomics side. The games at a point where there are hard counters to lists and netlisting is definitely a thing, if you're in a playgroup with high level player or players it kinda behooves you not to throw out what they're playing, especially if its a meta counter.

Something with an Xwing:

Jek Porkins + Push the Limit+ Seisimc Torps+R3A2+Experimental Interface.

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I'm not allowed to say what the list is but I think it's gonna do really well. #rooksquad

I love when people do this. Congrats, you found a list most likely multitudes of others have found. But you think it's a secret weapon, will name it, and look the next mynock special is born.

It's so silly.

What will win? Hopefully a well deserving player. I don't care which list due to knowing each list has its limitations and know popping something down isn't insta win.

I'm gonna go way out of character here and take atomics side. The games at a point where there are hard counters to lists and netlisting is definitely a thing, if you're in a playgroup with high level player or players it kinda behooves you not to throw out what they're playing, especially if its a meta counter.

Except someone else probably has already put together your secret weapon list, and lost in the most humiliating fashion to some other list and trashed it. Congrats, you beat Contracted scouts, but you fall to Crack swarm, Palp aces, Triple X, Dash+Ghost, Awing aces, Chewie/Han, Scimitar bombers,Knave swarm, etc.

Obvious troll is Obvious.

Fel's Wrath

I'm not allowed to say what the list is but I think it's gonna do really well. #rooksquad

I love when people do this. Congrats, you found a list most likely multitudes of others have found. But you think it's a secret weapon, will name it, and look the next mynock special is born.

It's so silly.

What will win? Hopefully a well deserving player. I don't care which list due to knowing each list has its limitations and know popping something down isn't insta win.

I'm gonna go way out of character here and take atomics side. The games at a point where there are hard counters to lists and netlisting is definitely a thing, if you're in a playgroup with high level player or players it kinda behooves you not to throw out what they're playing, especially if its a meta counter.

Except someone else probably has already put together your secret weapon list, and lost in the most humiliating fashion to some other list and trashed it. Congrats, you beat Contracted scouts, but you fall to Crack swarm, Palp aces, Triple X, Dash+Ghost, Awing aces, Chewie/Han, Scimitar bombers,Knave swarm, etc.

Obvious troll is Obvious.

Doesn't sound like its his list, more that of someone he plays with who doesn't want it revealed and he respects that wish. Also sounds like he did see results from it. While I do agree that these "I know something you don't, but won't tell" comments are annoying as hell and don't add much, I can forgive that if at some later point it is revealed what list has been allured to.

if Heaver takes a liking to Biggs ARCs, then Biggs ARCs will win worlds

the list is highly competitive, really only worried about triple torp scout match-ups

but the track records show Heaver's going to win, so it all depends on whether or not he picks up on that list :P

I'm not allowed to say what the list is but I think it's gonna do really well. #rooksquad

I love when people do this. Congrats, you found a list most likely multitudes of others have found. But you think it's a secret weapon, will name it, and look the next mynock special is born.

It's so silly.

What will win? Hopefully a well deserving player. I don't care which list due to knowing each list has its limitations and know popping something down isn't insta win.

I'm gonna go way out of character here and take atomics side. The games at a point where there are hard counters to lists and netlisting is definitely a thing, if you're in a playgroup with high level player or players it kinda behooves you not to throw out what they're playing, especially if its a meta counter.

Except someone else probably has already put together your secret weapon list, and lost in the most humiliating fashion to some other list and trashed it. Congrats, you beat Contracted scouts, but you fall to Crack swarm, Palp aces, Triple X, Dash+Ghost, Awing aces, Chewie/Han, Scimitar bombers,Knave swarm, etc.

Obvious troll is Obvious.