FFG seems to generally be trying to avoid legends material at this point, where both the E and K wings as well as Phantoms and Defenders find their root. None of these ships seem hugely or well known. Yet here they are on the table as minis for X-Wing. How did these ships get so lucky?

FFG seems to generally be trying to avoid legends material at this point, where both the E and K wings as well as Phantoms and Defenders find their root. None of these ships seem hugely or well known. Yet here they are on the table as minis for X-Wing. How did these ships get so lucky?

Before the dark times, before the Disney Empire.

FFG seems to generally be trying to avoid legends material at this point, where both the E and K wings as well as Phantoms and Defenders find their root. None of these ships seem hugely or well known. Yet here they are on the table as minis for X-Wing. How did these ships get so lucky?

Before the dark times, before the Disney Empire.

FFG seems to generally be trying to avoid legends material at this point, where both the E and K wings as well as Phantoms and Defenders find their root. None of these ships seem hugely or well known. Yet here they are on the table as minis for X-Wing. How did these ships get so lucky?

Before the dark times, before the Disney Empire.

Was it not their property then?

They de-canonized the whole EU (which is now Legends). So the E-Wings were canon at one point, then when Disney bought the rights they are no longer Canon. Now they are just a bit more than fan-fiction. Also Disney discourages the use of Legends material in merchandise.

I am not exactly sure the terms of use between FFG and Disney, but I am willing to bet something in the contract to give Disney some sort of input that FFG puts out.

FFG seems to generally be trying to avoid legends material at this point, where both the E and K wings as well as Phantoms and Defenders find their root. None of these ships seem hugely or well known. Yet here they are on the table as minis for X-Wing. How did these ships get so lucky?

Before the dark times, before the Disney Empire.

Was it not their property then?

It was, but there wasnt anything other than Rebels feeding into the ship pool. Now that Ep. 7 has released, Rogue One is coming soon, and Ep. 8 is on the far horizon it will likely be mostly stuff from them for Rebels and empire and the EU tap has been mostly closed.

I was about to do a similar thread on the Future of the E-Wing, but I could not find the right wording. Maybe in a later date.

When they ran out of cinematic ships they went to EU staples (the TIE defender and Z-95 are pretty much the best known ships in their respective factions the EU has) then they did Scum which let them do a bunch more EU staples, then they went progressively more obscure until hitting rock bottom with the TIE interdictor. Then they got new material to work with.

The Punisher was the one that made no sense to me... when they could have went with the Gunboat.

Z-95 isn't EU is it? I though Anakin flew one in the Clone Wars which is Canon?

Even more curious than the E-wing is the Tie Punisher in my opinion. (Ninja'd)

In fact, I am really interested to see if they ever revisit these ships. They did revisit the Defender, but that seems to be making a solid push in to canon anyways, being in the mobile game as well as in Battlefront now as well it would seen. The E-wing and Punisher on the other hand? I'm not sure they will ever get the aces/veterans treatment that they so desperately need.

There is literally 0 evidence of a Disney-led anti-Legends conspiracy.

In fact, there's plenty of evidence for the exact opposite, because FFG continues to produce Legends material in all of their games, including X-wing.

The recent emphasis on canon ships is because THERE ARE NEW SHIPS. These ships happen to be heavily marketed because they are attached to NEW STAR WARS PRODUCTS.

By the way guys, THERE ARE NEW STAR WARS MOVIES. AND COMICS AND BOOKS AND VIDEOGAMES AND TV SHOWS. In case anyone has been too busy rereading Zahn's books for the 1,000th time (oh wait, he's writing a new one too!).

>Trying to avoid Legends

No they're not. They just have more important things going on.

I don't know if I'd say they're actively avoiding legends material, so much as focusing on canon material. Given the volume of material they can pull from recent and upcoming movies (Trilogy movies every 1.5 years and spinoffs every year), plus TV shows (Rebels plus whatever else is probably coming), I think they'll not dip too much into legends.

That said, I fully expect the movies and shows to pull partly from legends, either reimagining or just canonizing EU characters. Thrawn in Rebels is a perfect example.

Don't assume that stuff in legends is gone, never to resurface. The guys making these movies are mostly Star Wars fans themselves, and they will work in the EU stuff they like.

Let's take E-wings. It's more accurate to say that we don't know if they existed between episode 6-7, rather than to say that they didn't exist. There is actually a little scrap of evidence that suggests they may: the company that made the E-wing, FreiTek, is referenced as a manufacturer (as part of incom-FreiTek) of the T-70 X-wing in new material. Pre-EU, the manufacturer of X-wings was a group of Incom employees, who according to the EU later founded FreiTek. So there is already evidence that someone out there remembers the E-wing. I wouldn't count it out quite yet.

Well, when a mommy x-wing and a daddy z-95 love each other VERY much...

Well, when a mommy x-wing and a daddy z-95 love each other VERY much...

The X-Wing has an affair with an A-Wing

>Trying to avoid Legends

No they're not. They just have more important things going on.

^This.

If you think they are avoiding Legends material please do explain the Gladiator SD in Armada, which has the Disney logo on it.

Well, when a mommy x-wing and a daddy z-95 love each other VERY much...

The X-Wing has an affair with an A-Wing

There is literally 0 evidence of a Disney-led anti-Legends conspiracy.

In fact, there's plenty of evidence for the exact opposite, because FFG continues to produce Legends material in all of their games, including X-wing.

What has FFG added to X-Wing from Legends recently? I'm pretty sure I haven't seen anything outside of their new canon in awhile.

There is literally 0 evidence of a Disney-led anti-Legends conspiracy.

In fact, there's plenty of evidence for the exact opposite, because FFG continues to produce Legends material in all of their games, including X-wing.

What has FFG added to X-Wing from Legends recently? I'm pretty sure I haven't seen anything outside of their new canon in awhile.

wave 7 wasn't THAT long ago

then again, after the glorious K, what could possibly be left that's worth adding?

Bojanglez, on 06 Oct 2016 - 3:53 PM, said:

Well, when a mommy x-wing and a daddy z-95 love each other VERY much...

X and A man... get it right

There is literally 0 evidence of a Disney-led anti-Legends conspiracy.

In fact, there's plenty of evidence for the exact opposite, because FFG continues to produce Legends material in all of their games, including X-wing.

What has FFG added to X-Wing from Legends recently? I'm pretty sure I haven't seen anything outside of their new canon in awhile.

wave 7 wasn't THAT long ago

then again, after the glorious K, what could possibly be left that's worth adding?

Sure, but has there been anything in wave 8, 9, or 10 (spoiled, anyway)?

There's no reason they couldn't continue to splash Legends things, even with a single upgrade card.

Not saying they need to, mind, or that I overtly care, but I do feel there's been an active pulling away from EU. Yes, in favor of the new shiny, but, really, it's the new money makers.

Which, again, is fine. More X-Wing works for me.

There is literally 0 evidence of a Disney-led anti-Legends conspiracy.

In fact, there's plenty of evidence for the exact opposite, because FFG continues to produce Legends material in all of their games, including X-wing.

What has FFG added to X-Wing from Legends recently? I'm pretty sure I haven't seen anything outside of their new canon in awhile.

wave 7 wasn't THAT long ago

then again, after the glorious K, what could possibly be left that's worth adding?

Sure, but has there been anything in wave 8, 9, or 10 (spoiled, anyway)?

There's no reason they couldn't continue to splash Legends things, even with a single upgrade card.

well there's plenty of reasons, as mentioned previously, such as pushing newer properties ala the new movies and REBELs series

I don't remember if the ARC pilots come from legends or w.e (not a big EU guy), but they might even if the ARC technically features in REBELs (as wreckage)

plus at least the defender half of imp vets, though Battlefront suggests they've been rolled into canon

and the jm5k pilots outside Dengar

The Punisher was the one that made no sense to me... when they could have went with the Gunboat.

every time you post the word gunboat the secret gunboat boat slows down a little.

right now its plowing backwards into the beaches of china at 800 mph

I mean, there are what, 11 total space ships in the original films that scale to X-Wing? A, B, X, Y, MF, Slave 1, Lambda, TIE Fighter, Interceptor, Bomber, Advanced. Would have been a real short product line if they'd stopped there, lol.

Punisher on the other hand? I'm not sure they will ever get the aces/veterans treatment that they so desperately need.

The only thing the Punisher desperately needs is to be shot and buried in the desert.

There is literally 0 evidence of a Disney-led anti-Legends conspiracy.

In fact, there's plenty of evidence for the exact opposite, because FFG continues to produce Legends material in all of their games, including X-wing.

What has FFG added to X-Wing from Legends recently? I'm pretty sure I haven't seen anything outside of their new canon in awhile.

wave 7 wasn't THAT long ago

then again, after the glorious K, what could possibly be left that's worth adding?

Sure, but has there been anything in wave 8, 9, or 10 (spoiled, anyway)?

There's no reason they couldn't continue to splash Legends things, even with a single upgrade card.

well there's plenty of reasons, as mentioned previously, such as pushing newer properties ala the new movies and REBELs series

I don't remember if the ARC pilots come from legends or w.e (not a big EU guy), but they might even if the ARC technically features in REBELs (as wreckage)

Pushing new properties does not require the exclusion of older properties.

The ARC pilots are all canon (even extremely RECENT canon, no less), as is the ARC itself... Even if you don't want it to be, the prequels are canon, hah.