Coming back to this deck, the lack of action advantage is really striking here. I feel like that is what Noldor do so great with Light of Valinor, Miruvor (not for them only, of course) and even Narya. That is why LoftE shine so much, because you oft get multiple bonuses on a single character.

i actually don't know how to read your comments without thinking they are dripping with condescension. you obviously don't understand that deckbuilding involves designing a strategy and focusing on that strategy, not deciding one ultimate strategy and only sticking to that. this deck clearly does not focus on strategies you find worthwhile, but it's not a **** deck because of it. it's not 'striking' or somehow lacking because i didn't make your specific idea of a Noldor deck, nor does it mean that i'm trying to say that this is the optimal way to play Noldor, and i'm certainly not saying it's the only way.

if you have actual suggestions in how to improve the deck for the strategy it's implementing, i'm all for it, but everything you've said so far, literally every suggestion you've made this entire thread , has been 'this deck would be better if it were a completely different deck with a completely different strategy' which is in no way helpful whatsoever.

and i want to be clear, the strategies you are suggesting aren't bad. in fact, i like them and agree that they are powerful, and i even use them... for other decks. you clearly don't understand what it means to optimise a given deck's strategy and acknowledge that more than one strategy exists

i'm sorry if my response seems aggressive, but it seems that after your apology following your initial aggressive criticism, you're taking it as a free pass to continue it.

it's so frustrating because i would genuinely love to discuss the deck and its strategy, and what makes this worse is that your message isn't intrinsically detrimental to that: this deck is a departure from what you feel is optimised for the Noldor trait, but instead of packaging the statement as 'it's interesting how this specific deck differs from what i normally feel is best for Noldor....', it instead is presented as 'this deck is clearly lacking in that it needs to be this completely different deck instead', which completely shuts down further meaningful discussion about it.

Wow. Do you honestly just want to hear something great about your deck? I could not even continue below the second paragraph without thinking you are clearly LACKING the ability to stay cool about things that matter very little. I tried to be honest, well, not just that, I was honest. Do not read too much into it if you take it so badly. I think your deck could be much better, which is why I said what I said -- to help your gaming experience, not hurt your pride. "Grow up!" is what comes to mind right now, but no, just "take it easy"!

Ok, I did read the rest. The suggestions were not to make a different deck, I did not suggest to make a Gondor or Dwarf deck. That is pure nonsense. I did make suggestions within the Noldor discard mechanic, and I think that is a category specific enough (and easily at that). I could not read your mind and make out of it any more.

and i want to be clear, the strategies you are suggesting aren't bad. in fact, i like them and agree that they are powerful, and i even use them... for other decks. you clearly don't understand what it means to optimise a given deck's strategy and acknowledge that more than one strategy exists

i'm sorry if my response seems aggressive, but it seems that after your apology following your initial aggressive criticism, you're taking it as a free pass to continue it.

it's so frustrating because i would genuinely love to discuss the deck and its strategy, and what makes this worse is that your message isn't intrinsically detrimental to that: this deck is a departure from what you feel is optimised for the Noldor trait, but instead of packaging the statement as 'it's interesting how this specific deck differs from what i normally feel is best for Noldor....', it instead is presented as 'this deck is clearly lacking in that it needs to be this completely different deck instead', which completely shuts down further meaningful discussion about it.

To be clear, this above is what just makes no sense to me. There is nothing to suggest I am straying from what this deck is intended to do, because the description is not there -- at least not for me to comprehend.

But if you define it better, for me, I mean define the discussion points, so that I am able to follow them, then I will. I did not have that as a priority in life but since I feel I wronged you somehow, despite having no intentions to do so, I will, gladly, give it a few minutes of my "LotR lcg discussion best".