Epic death with the Boss

By Rojoto, in Mansions of Madness

Okay, this rule seems kind of quirky. We were fighting the final boss. I was acting as a caster. My spell defeated the boss. However, by flipping the card over causes me to become insane for the second time. Now by the rules, I died, and we lost. But I just killed the boss. Why wouldn't my other party members just say "well, sucks to be you, we're out of here!!" And count it as a win? Are they really that upset that I died or went insane again?

Now here's the technical question. It's all about order of operations. I say I'm attacking with a spell. I roll my check and succeed in doing damage. At the bottom of the spell screen it says "Flip your card over and do what it says" (or something like that). HOWEVER.....When I pass my roll and assign damage to the boss, if I have reached his hit points, the screen automatically changes asking to confirm that I kill the creature. So, TECHNICALLY, that part that tells me to flip my card over is GONE.

hmmm.....Thoughts?

Okay, this rule seems kind of quirky. We were fighting the final boss. I was acting as a caster. My spell defeated the boss. However, by flipping the card over causes me to become insane for the second time. Now by the rules, I died, and we lost. But I just killed the boss. Why wouldn't my other party members just say "well, sucks to be you, we're out of here!!" And count it as a win? Are they really that upset that I died or went insane again?

Now here's the technical question. It's all about order of operations. I say I'm attacking with a spell. I roll my check and succeed in doing damage. At the bottom of the spell screen it says "Flip your card over and do what it says" (or something like that). HOWEVER.....When I pass my roll and assign damage to the boss, if I have reached his hit points, the screen automatically changes asking to confirm that I kill the creature. So, TECHNICALLY, that part that tells me to flip my card over is GONE.

hmmm.....Thoughts?

Page 8, Eliminated.

When an investigator is eliminated, he drops all of his possessions in

his space, then he removes his figure from the board.

> An eliminated investigator does not take a turn or perform actions

during the investigator phase.

> At the end of the game, each eliminated investigator loses the game unless an effect specifically states that he wins the game if he is eliminated.

> When an investigator is eliminated, the remaining investigators

lose the game at the end of the next investigator phase.

If all investigators are eliminated, the game ends immediately,

and all investigators lose the game.

Related Topics: Damage & Horror, Winning & Losing

At worst, you didn't win, but the rest of the crew DID (which is what you seem to be worried about?)

By the way, did the spell card say you became insane ("again"), or did it assign you enough horror equal to your exceeding your sanity? Because if it simply made you insane, you weren't eliminated. You are eliminated if you suffer Horror equal to your exceeding your sanity while insane.

EDIT: Modified my quote from the rules to reflect the official errata.

Edited by dulcaoin

When an investigator is eliminated, the remaining investigators

lose the game at the end of the next investigator phase.

This is the bit that's important for you. When one investigator is eliminated, the others have one last turn to win.

When an investigator is eliminated, the remaining investigators

lose the game at the end of the next investigator phase.

This is the bit that's important for you. When one investigator is eliminated, the others have one last turn to win.

Which seems unlikely, if the dead investigator wasn't pretty close to the exit (in the case of the first scenario). Just not enough actions in, at most, two turns (if they happened to die on an investigator phase and the other investigators haven't gone yet, they get this phase and one more, right?) to get in, pick up <x> items, and get to the goal.