So we all know about bbbbz and how it was tearing up the meta before tlt/uboats dethroned it. That is not the Bwings problem. The problem is that while it has some nice pilots all with epts, good upgrade slots and a strong basic statline, if you actually try to use any of it a single pilot can inflate to almost half your list. As an hp-tank, the Bwing chassis is quite consistant when swarmed, but simply not enough to survive when facing a competitive list.

But while the aces are expensive, a price reduction is right out. Thats a boost to swarms that can take it multiple times, not the lone elephants that are the aces. No, we need to make the aces worth their points, not reduce the points to what they're worth.

Cockpit Gyrostabilization Systems

Bwing only title, 1 point

When you would receve a stress token,

first perform a free evade action.

The bwing has a lot of red on the dial, and every named bwing pilot has an Ept. Two of the pilots have bonuses while stressed, and the system slot has several ways of minimizing the penalties of stress.

Since the bwings lack of survivability is the issue, having it hand out evade tokens is the best case. The way I worded it simotaliusly stops Rage from giving a massive stack of tokens, but also lets you get an evade token off a Baffle'd stress.

Outlaw tech and targeting astromech imply tthis ability should cost 2 points. Costing it at 1 brings it in as a fix, but not one that will see much play in generic swarms.

Thoughts?

Keyan wants this title. A lot.

Keyan wants this title. A lot.

Or hera crew, or ezra crew. Any advanced sensor/ptl build. Even baffle works with it, technically.

I've got a whole slew of titles incoming.

I like it a lot, I think add once per round so it doesn't stack tokens.

You could make it free if you also say it's only for Pilot Skill 5 and up.

Honestly I'm starting to think that every straight jouster needs a mechanic to hand it a free evade. Defenders sky rocketed up the ladder the moment they got a way to consistently get an evade. Give something similar (but different, obviously) to the B-wing, Misthunter, K fighter, Scyk and X-wing, and we are in business.

I like it a lot, I think add once per round so it doesn't stack tokens.

You could make it free if you also say it's only for Pilot Skill 5 and up.

I like it a lot, I think add once per round so it doesn't stack tokens.

You could make it free if you also say it's only for Pilot Skill 5 and up.

Since it says "Perform a free evade action." it's already once per round. You can't perform the same action more than once in a round.

So begins the nera/ptl/apt of doom!!

... This game is doomed.

I shoulda gotten off before TFA and just house ruled everything that was garbage.

lol.

Xwing has an Ace vs generic problem, it's not just the bwing. Besides a few corner cases, almost every expansion has either very good aces and crap generics or crap aces and good generics.

Free evade tokens? Maybe it's just me but it feels like those are getting thrown around quite a bit nowadays. And B-Wings aren't really known for evading fire so I'm not exactly sure it's....flavorful.

"Immediately before you are assigned a stress token, you may perform a free evade action."

Or at least that's the closest I can get it to FFG's wording.

Free evade tokens? Maybe it's just me but it feels like those are getting thrown around quite a bit nowadays. And B-Wings aren't really known for evading fire so I'm not exactly sure it's....flavorful.

I dunno, the amount of ISD fire those things dodged seems like it should be worth it.

Free evade tokens? Maybe it's just me but it feels like those are getting thrown around quite a bit nowadays. And B-Wings aren't really known for evading fire so I'm not exactly sure it's....flavorful.

True. Let's play instead with their stress.

Cockpit Gyrostabilization Systems

Bwing only title, 1 point

When defending, you can spend 1 stress token to add 1 evade result to your roll.

Or with their shields:

Reinforced frontal shields,

B-Wing only

"When defending, if the attacker is in your firing arc, you may assign a stress token to your ship. If you do so, your shield tokens cancel out any combination of up to two hit or crit results each."

Advanced shield generators

B-Wing only

After executing a red maneuver, after the Check Pilot Stress step, you may recover one shield (up to your shield value).

(Cool combo with Electronic baffle)

Shield overcharge

EPT, B-Wing only

Once per round, when defending, you may assign two stress tokens to your ship to assign one reinforce token to your ship.

As one of the reasons they seem to give the protectorate fighter 3 green was because of its slim profile, maybe a b wing title that uses that

Slim profile

Title, b wing only

While defending an attack from your front arc you may add one evade result

0 points

As b wings are jousters it gives them a bit better survivability on the joust but still need to keep arc for their defence

Free evade tokens? Maybe it's just me but it feels like those are getting thrown around quite a bit nowadays. And B-Wings aren't really known for evading fire so I'm not exactly sure it's....flavorful.

True. Let's play instead with their stress.

Cockpit Gyrostabilization Systems

Bwing only title, 1 point

When defending, you can spend 1 stress token to add 1 evade result to your roll.

Or with their shields:

Reinforced frontal shields,

B-Wing only

"When defending, if the attacker is in your firing arc, you may assign a stress token to your ship. If you do so, your shield tokens cancel out any combination of up to two hit or crit results each."

Advanced shield generators

B-Wing only

After executing a red maneuver, after the Check Pilot Stress step, you may recover one shield (up to your shield value).

(Cool combo with Electronic baffle)

Shield overcharge

EPT, B-Wing only

Once per round, when defending, you may assign two stress tokens to your ship to assign one reinforce token to your ship.

These are cool, but maybe a little too complex, plus only really helps out keyan and ibitsum, and even then only if you marry either of them to Hera crew, and with the hatred that seems to revolve around stress stackers recently

The shield regen on red is really cool though, maybe make it a system rather than an ept though, probably going to cost equivalent to r2d2

Free evade tokens? Maybe it's just me but it feels like those are getting thrown around quite a bit nowadays. And B-Wings aren't really known for evading fire so I'm not exactly sure it's....flavorful.

True. Let's play instead with their stress.

Cockpit Gyrostabilization Systems

Bwing only title, 1 point

When defending, you can spend 1 stress token to add 1 evade result to your roll.

Or with their shields:

Reinforced frontal shields,

B-Wing only

"When defending, if the attacker is in your firing arc, you may assign a stress token to your ship. If you do so, your shield tokens cancel out any combination of up to two hit or crit results each."

Advanced shield generators

B-Wing only

After executing a red maneuver, after the Check Pilot Stress step, you may recover one shield (up to your shield value).

(Cool combo with Electronic baffle)

Shield overcharge

EPT, B-Wing only

Once per round, when defending, you may assign two stress tokens to your ship to assign one reinforce token to your ship.

These are cool, but maybe a little too complex, plus only really helps out keyan and ibitsum, and even then only if you marry either of them to Hera crew, and with the hatred that seems to revolve around stress stackers recently

The shield regen on red is really cool though, maybe make it a system rather than an ept though, probably going to cost equivalent to r2d2

Yeah, lets not "fix" a ship by catering only to a couple of the pilots attached to it.

I agree with the people comlaining about the free evades that go around these days. How about free target locks or other offensive boosts. In some matchups games tend to drag on forever already.

Free evade tokens? Maybe it's just me but it feels like those are getting thrown around quite a bit nowadays. And B-Wings aren't really known for evading fire so I'm not exactly sure it's....flavorful.

True. Let's play instead with their stress.

Cockpit Gyrostabilization Systems

Bwing only title, 1 point

When defending, you can spend 1 stress token to add 1 evade result to your roll.

Or with their shields:

Reinforced frontal shields,

B-Wing only

"When defending, if the attacker is in your firing arc, you may assign a stress token to your ship. If you do so, your shield tokens cancel out any combination of up to two hit or crit results each."

Advanced shield generators

B-Wing only

After executing a red maneuver, after the Check Pilot Stress step, you may recover one shield (up to your shield value).

(Cool combo with Electronic baffle)

Shield overcharge

EPT, B-Wing only

Once per round, when defending, you may assign two stress tokens to your ship to assign one reinforce token to your ship.

These are cool, but maybe a little too complex, plus only really helps out keyan and ibitsum, and even then only if you marry either of them to Hera crew, and with the hatred that seems to revolve around stress stackers recently

The shield regen on red is really cool though, maybe make it a system rather than an ept though, probably going to cost equivalent to r2d2

Yeah, lets not "fix" a ship by catering only to a couple of the pilots attached to it.

I think those upgrades would benefit all pilots, not only Ibtisam and Keyan.

All of them offer extra survivability, by either recovering shields, spending stress for adding evade result (goes against Keyan and Ibtisam, actually), making your shields count double when jousting, or double-stressing your ship in exchange to add on evade result to all defenses that round.

I mean, all pilots can make use of it.

You can even combo the shield regen one with Electronic Baffle to basically turn all red maneuvers white. That benefits Ten Numb, Nora, and the generics even.

Advanced shield generators

B-Wing only

After executing a red maneuver, after the Check Pilot Stress step, you may recover one shield (up to your shield value).

(Cool combo with Electronic baffle)

I like this very much! Make it a 0 cost Modification for Pilots of PS 5 or higher & job done.

How about an upgrade that grants extra defense against Missles and torpedoes after executing a barrel roll. If we really look at why they fail, it's because they cost a little much and they die very quickly in the current meta.

Missile Jammer, System upgrade, 1pt. After you perform a barrel roll action, you may discard this card. If you do, enemy ships cannot attack you with missiles or torpedoes during the attack phase.

This will get B-wings back into the fight without the fear of losing one during the first pass. This can also work with E-wings. Will it help named pilots, I don't know, but it would be beneficial to be a higher pilot skill to know of you need to BR.

Bwings with free evades behind 8 HP would be a bit much

Bwings with free evades behind 8 HP would be a bit much

Yeah the b-wings never been a hyper agile fighter in any media.

Bwings with free evades behind 8 HP would be a bit much

Indeed, free evades doesn't fit the Bwing.

But the real problem is that 8HP with 1 green die is not much nowadays, and B-wing jousting value as been power crept away. I would like to see them get some extra punch and/or sturdy defense for jousting situations (like a Reinforce token that would work only in arc).

3 points, makes you act like you have a reinforce token when stressed. Maybe even 4 points so you can't play 4 Blues with it.