This is a weird parsing with the Special Ops Training (doh, I mis-typed the title) that I considered in the title that I doubt is intended but may be a side effect. Hopefully someone can set me straight. I need to approach this logically, so please read and follow along!

The title: When attacking with a primary weapon from your primary firing arc, you may roll 1 additional attack die. If you do not, you may perform an additional attack from your auxiliary firing arc.

Some conclusions so far:

1. You get to roll an additional attack die out of your front arc when attacking out of it, but you give up your rear attack

2. If you choose not to roll the extra die out of the front you perform an additional attack out of your rear firing arc. It's pretty much agreed upon that you must attack out of the front arc first to satisfy the condition of the second attack if you are able.

3. It's also agreed on that the "if you do not" includes not attacking out of the front at all (you're not rolling the extra attack die if you aren't rolling any).

Here's where it gets weird:

4. What if I fire a missile out of my front arc? I have satisfied the condition of "If you do not" in the same way that I satisfy it by not firing out of the front at all. I did not roll an extra attack die with a primary weapon attack since I didn't fire a primary. It seems to be RAW that I can fire out the aux arc because I satisfied the condition.

Is there a rule I'm missing that would contradict this? I'm not saying it was intended or even that it is going to happen (and I'm not big on putting a missile on this thing anyway) but it would be a bonus.

Thanks in advance for thoughts.

It seems pretty clear that the "When attacking with your primary weapon" it's the trigger to use the effect of the title. If your not shooting with your primary weapon then you dont trigger the title and you don't get a free shot out the back.

It seems pretty clear that the "When attacking with your primary weapon" it's the trigger to use the effect of the title. If your not shooting with your primary weapon then you dont trigger the title and you don't get a free shot out the back.

Also, if you make your primary attack out of your Auxillary Firing Arc you do not trigger the title.

With the title your options for primary attacks are:

1. Attack out of rear arc.

2. Attack out of front arc. You may use this to trigger the title;

2.1. Gain addition die on attack from front arc.

2.2. Gain additional attack out of rear arc.

Note that in #2 you do NOT need to use the title if you don't want to for what ever reason.

The TIE/sf has an auxiliary arc, so that would allow the following options:

1. Primary arc attack without title, 2 dice
2. Auxiliary arc attack without title, 2 dice
3. Primary arc attack with title, 2+1 dice, no additional auxiliary arc attack
4. Primary arc attack with title, 2 dice, plus an additional auxiliary arc attack with 2 dice.
5. Missile attack (from primary arc), no additional auxiliary arc attack

Your conclusions 1 and 2 are correct, but your reasoning on point 3 is confusing. Any ship with an auxiliary arc can make a primary attack using that arc anyway. It has nothing to do with the title. Point 4 is just not possible, because the title only grants the additional auxiliary arc attack when you use the primary unmodified attack.

You cannot use just the second sentence of the title to get an additional auxiliary arc attack if you don't fulfill the requirements correctly.

No idea how you are coming to that conclusion.

The entry clause for this ability is performing a primary attack. Every single card is worded this way where the first sentence is the requirement to trigger the card. You cant use part of the card on its own unless you opt out of the other part after triggering the requirement, assuming it says "may" that is.

No idea how you are coming to that conclusion.

The entry clause for this ability is performing a primary attack. Every single card is worded this way where the first sentence is the requirement to trigger the card. You cant use part of the card on its own unless you opt out of the other part after triggering the requirement, assuming it says "may" that is.

Yep, it makes sense to me now and I'd agree with the three previous posts that said the exact same thing.

• Use the primary arc, don't use the title, roll 2 dice
• Use the auxiliary arc, don't use the title, roll 2 dice
• Use the primary arc, use the title, roll 3 dice, no additional attack from auxiliary arc
• Use the primary arc, use the title, roll 2 dice, get an additional 2 dice attack from auxiliary arc
• Use the primary arc, fire a missile

We could stop beating a dead horse when the Search function is something that is quick and easy for everyone to use. It may also help if we weren't always so hard on people bringing back old threads that still cover current topics; there are some topics that are as valid as when they started but admittedly there are some resurrected that should be left dead as everything in them was relevant at the time but it no longer close to being current.

We could stop beating a dead horse when the Search function is something that is quick and easy for everyone to use. It may also help if we weren't always so hard on people bringing back old threads that still cover current topics; there are some topics that are as valid as when they started but admittedly there are some resurrected that should be left dead as everything in them was relevant at the time but it no longer close to being current.

To be fair, I did use the search function but there wasn't anything that related to the missile, which is what the question was about. Probably because I read it oddly;)

We could stop beating a dead horse when the Search function is something that is quick and easy for everyone to use. It may also help if we weren't always so hard on people bringing back old threads that still cover current topics; there are some topics that are as valid as when they started but admittedly there are some resurrected that should be left dead as everything in them was relevant at the time but it no longer close to being current.

To be fair, I did use the search function but there wasn't anything that related to the missile, which is what the question was about. Probably because I read it oddly;)

I'll give that to you. I don't recall the previous topic going into the idea that firing a missile would trigger the title and allow an attack out of the backside. Of course that is probably because none of us ever even read that as a possibility.

We could stop beating a dead horse when the Search function is something that is quick and easy for everyone to use. It may also help if we weren't always so hard on people bringing back old threads that still cover current topics; there are some topics that are as valid as when they started but admittedly there are some resurrected that should be left dead as everything in them was relevant at the time but it no longer close to being current.

My beating of a dead horse wasn't related to any other thread, simply a humourous response to AlexW's comment:

Yep, it makes sense to me now and I'd agree with the three previous posts that said the exact same thing.