Having just finished a game that I won by a measly 26 points, I can definitely say that Vader is darn well not worth his points, and his ability is underwhelming. *puts card back in bag*
Welp then.....
I haven't yet found a way to use him as a TIE Advanced effectively, but I'm not a skilled player 
. Are you referring to the commander or the TIE Advanced?
You have to build to him, I think, and I've never been a fan of his ability for a double cost.
I assume he meant the commander, I suppose.
I like his squadron plenty, though sometimes he's hit or miss.
Commander. Used his ability all of twice. Tremendous waste of points. Switching to Motti plus leading shots and ordnance experts.
The squadron version is awesome but expensive.
Its because he won't come into his own until you're wanting to Reroll Red Dice at Range.
Since leading shots and Ordnance Experts won't let you do that.
And yes, honestly, right now, don't really need that.
But you might want it come the Arquitens.
I suppose 2 ISD's, with spinal, gunnery teams, Intel officers, and concentrated fire commands would be fairly vicious, using contains for re rolls, damage starts to add up fast
Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 400/400
Commander: Darth Vader
Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Contested Outpost
Navigation Objective: Intel Sweep
[ flagship ] Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer (110 points)
- Darth Vader ( 36 points)
- Intel Officer ( 7 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Spinal Armament ( 9 points)
= 169 total ship cost
Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer (110 points)
- Intel Officer ( 7 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Spinal Armament ( 9 points)
= 133 total ship cost
Gozanti-class Assault Carriers (28 points)
= 28 total ship cost
3 Aggressor Assault Fighters ( 48 points)
2 TIE Interceptor Squadrons ( 22 points)
Or,
Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 398/400
Commander: Darth Vader
Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Contested Outpost
Navigation Objective: Intel Sweep
[ flagship ] Victory I-Class Star Destroyer (73 points)
- Darth Vader ( 36 points)
- Intel Officer ( 7 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Spinal Armament ( 9 points)
= 132 total ship cost
Victory I-Class Star Destroyer (73 points)
- Intel Officer ( 7 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Spinal Armament ( 9 points)
= 96 total ship cost
Gozanti-class Assault Carriers (28 points)
= 28 total ship cost
Gozanti-class Assault Carriers (28 points)
= 28 total ship cost
Gozanti-class Assault Carriers (28 points)
= 28 total ship cost
4 Aggressor Assault Fighters ( 64 points)
2 TIE Interceptor Squadrons ( 22 points)
Along those lines... remember Vader demsu took down a regionals
Edited by SkyCakeI use him with a Glad build with OE and Assault Proton Torpedo . Fishing for crits is the best way to use him. Any other way is just a waste of points
Try him on at least 2x VSD Is with Goz support. With spinals or EA and Gunnery Teams with spammed CF commands. Still expensive, but those braces are probably getting Acced anyways.
Edit: Or go with Skycakes. Much more efficient, probably
Edited by ParkdaddyIts because he won't come into his own until you're wanting to Reroll Red Dice at Range.
Since leading shots and Ordnance Experts won't let you do that.
And yes, honestly, right now, don't really need that.
But you might want it come the Arquitens.
Agreed Cant wait lol.
The fleet was one ISD II, two Glads and two Raiders with assorted upgrades.
I mean, negative feelings for Darth Vader is mostly because, when it comes to the Imperials and Rerolls and/or Dice Fixing.
YOU ARE SPOILED FOR CHOICE.
You don't need Vader, because you've already got all of the Fixing you want... Just about everything has a Weapon Team slot to mount Ordnance Experts if they have Black Dice... Your Blue Dice Weilders have the Ion Slot, and aren't all about sticking at Range...
But the Rebels would kill for a Vader Equivelant... Something to help them - as I stated - Reroll Red Dice at Range.
I mean, TRCs are nice and all... But they only fix so much.
I feel like DTT or TRC will give you more choice than vader for your Imperial Light Cruiser needs compared to Vader and have another admiral with more benefits. Such as Motti, Tagge, or Tarkin.
This is my normal Vader build with Glads and with my rolls I need all the rerolls I can get
Vader Glad to meet you
Author: jpersons73
Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 385/400
Commander: Darth Vader
Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Contested Outpost
Navigation Objective: Intel Sweep
Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer (56 points)
- Demolisher ( 10 points)
- Intel Officer ( 7 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Engine Techs ( 8 points)
- Expanded Launchers ( 13 points)
= 98 total ship cost
Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer (56 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 65 total ship cost
Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer (56 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 65 total ship cost
[ flagship ] Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer (56 points)
- Darth Vader ( 36 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 101 total ship cost
5 TIE Fighter Squadrons ( 40 points)
1 "Howlrunner" ( 16 points)
Try him on at least 2x VSD Is with Goz support. With spinals or EA and Gunnery Teams with spammed CF commands. Still expensive, but those braces are probably getting Acced anyways.
Edit: Or go with Skycakes. Much more efficient, probably
Not enough ships for my liking. And what the heck are skycakes????
Vader is a key member of my semi-ultimate fireball
I use him with a Glad build with OE and Assault Proton Torpedo . Fishing for crits is the best way to use him. Any other way is just a waste of points
But why not just use screed and guarantee the crits if that's the goal?
I use him with a Glad build with OE and Assault Proton Torpedo . Fishing for crits is the best way to use him. Any other way is just a waste of points
But why not just use screed and guarantee the crits if that's the goal?
because with screed I have to spend a dice.. That is potentially 2 dmg I am giving up. in two rerolls most of the time I have a hit/crit on 3 of the 4 dice and the 4th dice is a hit
not sure how I did that.. double post
Edited by jpersons73Would someone explain what skycakes are....lol
Would someone explain what skycakes are....lol
Only once you've outlaid in explicit detail what a Darth Lupine is.
Would someone explain what skycakes are....lol
Only once you've outlaid in explicit detail what a Darth Lupine is.
The Wolf is my spirit animal. Lupine is related to a Wolf (from lupus, latin for wolf, full name Canis Lupus). So Darth Lupine = Darth Wolf, in fancy Star Wars speak.
Would someone explain what skycakes are....lol
Idk but it smells like cigars up in the sky
https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/user/267887-skycake/
Although, he was referring to Skycake's list when the original comment was made.
Which is here
https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/231053-welp-then/#entry2431962
Thanks!
because with screed I have to spend a dice.. That is potentially 2 dmg I am giving up. in two rerolls most of the time I have a hit/crit on 3 of the 4 dice and the 4th dice is a hitI use him with a Glad build with OE and Assault Proton Torpedo . Fishing for crits is the best way to use him. Any other way is just a waste of points
But why not just use screed and guarantee the crits if that's the goal?
Screed also costs 10 points less and will yield crits 100% of the time. Vader just seems like an unnecessary luxury in this context in comparison imo