Terribly dissapointing season so far however you look at it.

The first 7 Episodes involved: Go somewhere>Get captured>Escape. Every. ****. Episode. "The Antilles Extraction" perfectly shows the forumla.

Use Red Shirts as cannon fodder to show how dangerous the Empire is, yet fifty inches of Mandaorlian plot armour protects every core Rebel character without exception. Rex gets shot in his plate by a Destroyer "hur dur Gen 1 armor holds up". From this point am I meant to fear the Destroyer/anything if you can essentially cop a blast to the upper body? Oh wait he then actually gets hit the helemt...and he's fine...and then he destroys a Destroyer by throwing said helmet at it... later the same Destroyers that later go toe to toe with AT-STs...hitting one with such force that it recoils from the blast. Moments like this are littered in every episode.

I would actually prefer if every Imperial opted out of shooting towards our merry band of Rebels. This way I can pretend they are trying to tackle and capture them. Ah but when they get capture nothing a few unconvincing chops to a Storm Troopers helmet -you know a helmet designed to protect the head from blows/projecticles- can't solve.

There is no dramatic tension, slim if any character development, the antagonist has been so underplayed and under developed you can picture the ham-fisted, exposition landen, monolouge that will be delivered to make up for all the not showing about how he figured them all out. If you had no knowledge of what Thrawn is meant to represent you would be utterly confused by his behavior. Thrawns payoff is almost certainlly going to fizzle because no dramatic tension has built up over the course of the season.There is virtually no narrative progression and how could there be when it's just stand alone episodes with thread bare connections between them, if at all. We are almost at the penultimate episode and finale and there is no sense of an overall structure outside of Thrawn scheming and a tedius search from bombs. This is not compelling viewing. Almost everyone I know, myself included, has given up.

How is any of this different from the first two seasons???

Terribly dissapointing season so far however you look at it.

The first 7 Episodes involved: Go somewhere>Get captured>Escape. Every. ****. Episode. "The Antilles Extraction" perfectly shows the forumla.

Use Red Shirts as cannon fodder to show how dangerous the Empire is, yet fifty inches of Mandaorlian plot armour protects every core Rebel character without exception. Rex gets shot in his plate by a Destroyer "hur dur Gen 1 armor holds up". From this point am I meant to fear the Destroyer/anything if you can essentially cop a blast to the upper body? Oh wait he then actually gets hit the helemt...and he's fine...and then he destroys a Destroyer by throwing said helmet at it... later the same Destroyers that later go toe to toe with AT-STs...hitting one with such force that it recoils from the blast. Moments like this are littered in every episode.

I would actually prefer if every Imperial opted out of shooting towards our merry band of Rebels. This way I can pretend they are trying to tackle and capture them. Ah but when they get capture nothing a few unconvincing chops to a Storm Troopers helmet -you know a helmet designed to protect the head from blows/projecticles- can't solve.

There is no dramatic tension, slim if any character development, the antagonist has been so underplayed and under developed you can picture the ham-fisted, exposition landen, monolouge that will be delivered to make up for all the not showing about how he figured them all out. If you had no knowledge of what Thrawn is meant to represent you would be utterly confused by his behavior. Thrawns payoff is almost certainlly going to fizzle because no dramatic tension has built up over the course of the season.There is virtually no narrative progression and how could there be when it's just stand alone episodes with thread bare connections between them, if at all. We are almost at the penultimate episode and finale and there is no sense of an overall structure outside of Thrawn scheming and a tedius search from bombs. This is not compelling viewing. Almost everyone I know, myself included, has given up.

How is any of this different from the first two seasons???

We've seen nothing cool like the Maul story line. No extended quests or development of characters like Kanan.

It's been like Gilligan's Island - you could watch these episodes out of order with little confusion.

There have certainly been similar stories earlier. But each time you repeat a tired trope, it has less impact.

My Three Year old Son still lights up when the Fanfare plays... He bounces on the couch until I come and sit down next to him.

It could be Star Wars Gilligan's Island for all I care about, at that point... He's enjoying it... And Season 3 moreso than the others, because he's really started to recognise people - and "Uh-ohs!" a lot when Thrawn appears.

I would also say this season is not quite as awesome as the first two. I'm hoping it picks up as they go on. But I mean all the tie ins in season 2 really have made this seem less thrilling.

This shows biggest issue, and don't get me wrong in a fan, is it tries to take on stories that it can't wrap up in 22 minutes. They need to do multiple episode arcs like they did with clone wars

Well heres the issue with season 3 vs season 2 and 1. In season 2 the Rebels had a clear motive. Escape, survive, and expand. The Imperial Fleet and the Inquisitors were always right behind the heroes. In season 1 we had Kallus doing the same thing then Tarkin.

This season doesnt have that and instead Thrawn is doing the opposite. He's observing and playing the long game. Thats fine but the constant Imperial pressure on the Rebels is gone so where is the show's impetus?

They needed to have another Imperial counteract Thrawn and relentlessly pursue the rebels. Someone maybe who came into conflict with Thrawn such as a smarter, bolder Konstantine. Thrawn should be able tp wipe out the rebels but this other Imperial disrupts his machinations.

I think Thrawn should succeed in wiping out the Ghost's cell. They should all be dead by the time Rogue One occurs.

Pretty sure it was Retconned by Filoni to state that one member survives until Endor and beyond...

To the above yes according to Filoni Rex somehow manages to live to Endor despite you know...advanced aging...and old age...

If the Rebel's writers dont suffer from being overly sentimental two things must happen this season to escalatw the series as they have been the past two seasons.

The Ghost must be destroyed (Thrawn has been seen studying it several times and the Pilot School trains to fight it) and at least ONE of the ghost crew has to die.

Pretty sure it was Retconned by Filoni to state that one member survives until Endor and beyond...

Clones have an accelerated growth so any of the clones from the CW should be dead by the time Endor roles around, simply from aging. Kinda weird this was changed.

Clones have an accelerated growth so any of the clones from the CW should be dead by the time Endor roles around, simply from aging. Kinda weird this was changed.

The acceleration may slow as they age. We don't have the info on it.

Like I said, agree with it or not, when it becomes "canon", its "truth", and it has to be accepted... Because otherwise, you're not accepting the "truth"....... And that is a form of Insanity.

Is that truly confirmed though? I want it to be rex but is it really?

To Quote:


"And now it seems like Rebels creator Dave Filoni is considering this as the possible end goal for the character, which is kind of cool even if its just a retcon of old material from the original trilogy. But just because Filoni thinks that is Captain Rex in Return of the Jedi doesn’t make it so, although the Star Wars Rebels showrunner certainly has the power to change Star Wars canon."

It boils down to wether he actually does it, or wether something else happens to him in Seasons 3-5 of Rebels.

Pretty much - If he's alive at the end, then he'll be at Endor.

Clones have an accelerated growth so any of the clones from the CW should be dead by the time Endor roles around, simply from aging. Kinda weird this was changed.

The acceleration may slow as they age. We don't have the info on it.

Like I said, agree with it or not, when it becomes "canon", its "truth", and it has to be accepted... Because otherwise, you're not accepting the "truth"....... And that is a form of Insanity.

I've always enjoyed when writers fill in all the gaps and this is one of them. They gave a story to one of the soldiers at Endor and tied it into the new content they are making. You are right there is not much info on the clone genome, and with the medical/science advancements in the Star Wars universe, it is entirely plausible a clone could survive longer.

I think this is neat and adds more depth to the supporting/minor characters that we see run along with the main ones.

But it has NOT become canon as of yet and until so, to simply accept it as such because a bearded man in an Indiana Jones Hat told you so seems to border closer to madness

It's actually perhaps fairly simple to triangulate how old Rex is because in the canon we know that clones age twice as half as regular humans. They reached maturity in half the time a human would. Rebels is currently set six years prior to Endor. The last year of the Clone Wars is twenty three years before Endor. If Clones age twice as fast that is forty six years. Let us assume Rex is physiologically in his early twenties, the prime period for male humans, during the Clone Wars. By the current Rebels series he would be in his sixties and I would estimate (lazily) that he's at least in his seventies at the Battle of Endor. I suppose it is doable.

I love Rex but Filoni's reasoning is absolutely ridiculous. Simply because they are both old and have white beards that must mean they're the same character?

Wasn't there a group of clones that survived well past Return of the Jedi. I thought I remembered Boba Fett tracking them down in the Legacy of the Force books and he was a grandfather then.

Wasn't there a group of clones that survived well past Return of the Jedi. I thought I remembered Boba Fett tracking them down in the Legacy of the Force books and he was a grandfather then.

Yes, but that was a group of clones who had discovered the genetic secret of accelerated aging and had reversed its affects, giving themselves a normal lifespan.

Wasn't there a group of clones that survived well past Return of the Jedi. I thought I remembered Boba Fett tracking them down in the Legacy of the Force books and he was a grandfather then.

Yes, but that was a group of clones who had discovered the genetic secret of accelerated aging and had reversed its affects, giving themselves a normal lifespan.

Ahh I had forgotten that part and I think that's the whole reason he tracked them down. That does establish a possible explanation for Rex still being active up to and beyond RotJ despite his accelerated growth rate in his youth. There's also the question of what the life expectancy of humans is in the star wars universe I remember reading once that it was well over 100 years somewhere.

Wasn't there a group of clones that survived well past Return of the Jedi. I thought I remembered Boba Fett tracking them down in the Legacy of the Force books and he was a grandfather then.

Yes, but that was a group of clones who had discovered the genetic secret of accelerated aging and had reversed its affects, giving themselves a normal lifespan.

Ahh I had forgotten that part and I think that's the whole reason he tracked them down. That does establish a possible explanation for Rex still being active up to and beyond RotJ despite his accelerated growth rate in his youth. There's also the question of what the life expectancy of humans is in the star wars universe I remember reading once that it was well over 100 years somewhere.

Yeah, in the series Boba is dying 'cause his cloned replacement leg is failing again and his liver, I think, is failing, so he finds Jaing Skirata to get the injection that will save him. In the series he is in the mid-70s, I think, and he thinks to himself that he has at least 2, maybe 3 decades left to live, if I remember correctly.

Edit: I found the quote: 'I'm going to be dead within two years. I'm seventy-one. I should have another thirty in me, at least.' - Boba Fett, from Karen Traviss' book Bloodlines, 2nd in the Legacy of the Force series.

I think Thrawn should succeed in wiping out the Ghost's cell. They should all be dead by the time Rogue One occurs.

What if that's them, right there, next to the Hammerhead, bottom of screen?

I think Thrawn should succeed in wiping out the Ghost's cell. They should all be dead by the time Rogue One occurs.

What if that's them, right there, next to the Hammerhead, bottom of screen?

Holy **** balls that looks like the ghost!

Holy **** balls that looks like the ghost!

its definitely a VCX-100 Frieigher... Without an Attack Shuttle (of either kind).... But without view of its markings, its impossible to tell.

C'mon name drop!

How is any of this different from the first two seasons???

The promise of Thrawn, threat and consequence. And at least people died.

How is any of this different from the first two seasons???

The promise of Thrawn, threat and consequence. And at least people died.

this is why I think the Ghost, or the ship is going to be a easter egg only. They won't show any of the crew otherwise we'll know which characters make it to Rogue One. In a series that looks poised to knock off a few of the main characters I doubt they would be okay doing that.

No i'm convinced we'll only see the Ghost, or the freighter, and that's it.