Wtf thrawn! You just let the rebels escape!

Wtf thrawn! You just let the rebels escape!

Wtf thrawn! You just let the rebels escape!

Agreed. I'm sure the logic is "bwhahaha, Thrawn knows his enemy now and can predict them. He'll use that to achieve a bigger victory." To me, that's just overcomplicated nonsense. It's war. Kill your enemies when you have the chance. Eliminating major leadership is just as likely to give you a favorable result as 'knowing' them.

It's not war, it's storytelling in the Star Wars universe.

For Star Wars, overly complicated is just a walk in the narrative park.

Wtf thrawn! You just let the rebels escape!

Agreed. I'm sure the logic is "bwhahaha, Thrawn knows his enemy now and can predict them. He'll use that to achieve a bigger victory." To me, that's just overcomplicated nonsense. It's war. Kill your enemies when you have the chance. Eliminating major leadership is just as likely to give you a favorable result as 'knowing' them.

They kill Hera now and she'll become a martyr, be held up as a example of what the Empire will do if you resist. Now laying plans to destroy Phoenix group in it's entirety... that's something completely different. I also feel that's Thrawn's ultimate goal.

Also, Thrawn now understands a rebel leader. If he kills her he will have to learn a whole new leader.

Instead he can use this knowledge to land a significant blow against rebel forces.

He clearly already understands the far less competent and more predictable Sato. The crew of the Ghost is full of HVTs, which needed to be eliminated. The disruption to the Rebellion would be significant. Phoenix group would frankly fall apart without the Ghost crew. They are certainly far less combat effective without them (lol Phoenix squadron). You take the wins you can get, not the ones you might get later on.

The martyr thing has some merit, but that will happen regardless of when you take them out. Better a martyr than someone actively killing your troops.

Maybe but remember Phoenix Cell isnt the only cell and Thrawn's mission is to destroy the enitre rebellion leadership not merely one cell.

I think the episode poorly demonstrated this but its hard to tell as this ties into a much larger plot thread.

Also whose to say a single Arquietens would be accurate enough to destroy the Ghost before it pulled away like a bat out of hell?

He clearly already understands the far less competent and more predictable Sato. The crew of the Ghost is full of HVTs, which needed to be eliminated. The disruption to the Rebellion would be significant. Phoenix group would frankly fall apart without the Ghost crew. They are certainly far less combat effective without them (lol Phoenix squadron). You take the wins you can get, not the ones you might get later on.

The martyr thing has some merit, but that will happen regardless of when you take them out. Better a martyr than someone actively killing your troops.

Hence the point about this being Star Wars storytelling. Not a treatise on realpolitik.

He clearly already understands the far less competent and more predictable Sato. The crew of the Ghost is full of HVTs, which needed to be eliminated. The disruption to the Rebellion would be significant. Phoenix group would frankly fall apart without the Ghost crew. They are certainly far less combat effective without them (lol Phoenix squadron). You take the wins you can get, not the ones you might get later on.

The martyr thing has some merit, but that will happen regardless of when you take them out. Better a martyr than someone actively killing your troops.

Hence the point about this being Star Wars storytelling. Not a treatise on realpolitik.

Yup. It's just one little point of Star Wars that kind of irks me. For a franchise with "war" in the title, most of the characters are pretty bad at it. Not a huge problem, just a minor irritation. After all, Rebels is a children's show first and foremost.

I'm choosing to believe that he is tracking, following, establishing an operational pattern, or some similar tangible plan.

I mean clearly he didnt kill the Ghost crew because they feature in his grand scheme. What can we infer about the Rebels from this episode?

They care more about their compatriots then they do materials or artifacts or really anything that doesnt keep them and their friends alive. They use subterfuge such as disguising as an Imperial and servent. They are deceptive. When a prisoner exchange was setup they backstabbed the Imperials and struck first. The rebels also rely too strongly on the incompetancy of their Imperial adversaries. Holding compatriots hostage draws them out.

"I will tear the rebels apart piece by piece. They will be the architects of their own destruction."

Thats not just talk. I think Thrawn intends to use the Ghost crew's overconfidence just as the emperor did to draw the larger cell as a whole into a trap. He also has a fadcination with Hera and they setup her finding happiness at the end. I think either Chan or Kanan are dying, or both, by the season finale or she is.

Thrawn's armada card reads, if you allow your opponent to win this game without firing a single shot, you win the game against that opponent the next time you play

Thrawn's armada card reads, if you allow your opponent to win this game without firing a single shot, you win the game against that opponent the next time you play

That won't be helpful in tournaments, since you no longer play against people you already played against.

Thrawn's armada card reads, if you allow your opponent to win this game without firing a single shot, you win the game against that opponent the next time you play

That won't be helpful in tournaments, since you no longer play against people you already played against.

Thrawn's armada card reads, if you allow your opponent to win this game without firing a single shot, you win the game against that opponent the next time you play

That won't be helpful in tournaments, since you no longer play against people you already played against.

That would not necessarily be true for world's, would it???

Is Worlds before Nov 1? Because that's when it goes in place. FAQ goes Oct 24.

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Also they ruined dark troopers for me... It's the first new canon thing that made want to cry.

Also they ruined dark troopers for me... It's the first new canon thing that made want to cry.

Also they ruined dark troopers for me... It's the first new canon thing that made want to cry.

Good thing they were not Dark Troopers but security droids

I understand that but they replaced them

Also they ruined dark troopers for me... It's the first new canon thing that made want to cry.

Good thing they were not Dark Troopers but security droids

I understand that but they replaced them

Terribly dissapointing season so far however you look at it.

The first 7 Episodes involved: Go somewhere>Get captured>Escape. Every. ****. Episode. "The Antilles Extraction" perfectly shows the forumla.

Use Red Shirts as cannon fodder to show how dangerous the Empire is, yet fifty inches of Mandaorlian plot armour protects every core Rebel character without exception. Rex gets shot in his plate by a Destroyer "hur dur Gen 1 armor holds up". From this point am I meant to fear the Destroyer/anything if you can essentially cop a blast to the upper body? Oh wait he then actually gets hit the helemt...and he's fine...and then he destroys a Destroyer by throwing said helmet at it... later the same Destroyers that later go toe to toe with AT-STs...hitting one with such force that it recoils from the blast. Moments like this are littered in every episode.

I would actually prefer if every Imperial opted out of shooting towards our merry band of Rebels. This way I can pretend they are trying to tackle and capture them. Ah but when they get capture nothing a few unconvincing chops to a Storm Troopers helmet -you know a helmet designed to protect the head from blows/projecticles- can't solve.

There is no dramatic tension, slim if any character development, the antagonist has been so underplayed and under developed you can picture the ham-fisted, exposition landen, monolouge that will be delivered to make up for all the not showing about how he figured them all out. If you had no knowledge of what Thrawn is meant to represent you would be utterly confused by his behavior. Thrawns payoff is almost certainlly going to fizzle because no dramatic tension has built up over the course of the season.There is virtually no narrative progression and how could there be when it's just stand alone episodes with thread bare connections between them, if at all. We are almost at the penultimate episode and finale and there is no sense of an overall structure outside of Thrawn scheming and a tedius search from bombs. This is not compelling viewing. Almost everyone I know, myself included, has given up.

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It has been back since it was put in the Death Star DLC for Battlefront.

I understand that but they replaced them

They were heavily inspired by them at least:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_sentry_droid

Presumably the droid variant rather than the exoskeleton variant.

I have to agree that this is the weakest season yet.