rebels season 3 (spoilers may follow)

By Tirion, in Star Wars: Armada

Kanan doesn't necessarily have to die, we don't fully know what's going to happen between him and the Bandu. Always in motion, the future is.

Not necessarily.

But I want him to.

I doubt he dies. More likely to renounce being a Jedi I think.

It could be as easy be Yoda and Kenobi being too judgemental on what is a Jedi. Yoda more so since he seems to go on about how if you make a mistake in your path of the jedi you're doomed.

Their Jedi status doesn't matter. In order for them to live they would have to renounce being rebels entirely, or where the force are they? You can say that they were on mission or something for Yavin/Hoth, sure. But what about Endor? How do you not send all your jedi at that moonbase? This is an all or nothing, hold nothing in reserve type op. And even if they aren't jedi at that point because reasons, they would still be one of if not the most experienced strike team in the rebellion. Of course you would tap that resource!

And how does Luke not hook up with these guys if they serve concurrently? Different cells only goes so far. Rebel leadership would have to be like, "well we got these two experienced jedi over here and this other untrained jedi here...I guess keep then seperated so the guy who just blew up the death star doesn't refine his abilities? This sounds good to me. Hey Ackbar, what do you think? Should we put the jedi together so this skywalker kid learns how to use his space magic?"

"Its a trap!"

"No you dippy fishstick, not everything is a trap. But I guess **** it, we need your luxury crusiers"

Tl:dr; they all have to die, or be otherwise removed from the board, because otherwise decisions made before the characters were even concieved of wouldn't make sense. Except Chopper. He can live.

Killed or just goes into hiding. Killed seems dark for a Disney show, but since they more or less implied death with Asokha, it wouldn't be out of the question. The only people who need to be out of the picture before ANH is Ezra and Kanan. The remainder of the crew could still exist without being an integral part of the SW universe as we know without it being pretty odd.

Their Jedi status doesn't matter. In order for them to live they would have to renounce being rebels entirely, or where the force are they? You can say that they were on mission or something for Yavin/Hoth, sure. But what about Endor? How do you not send all your jedi at that moonbase? This is an all or nothing, hold nothing in reserve type op. And even if they aren't jedi at that point because reasons, they would still be one of if not the most experienced strike team in the rebellion. Of course you would tap that resource!

And how does Luke not hook up with these guys if they serve concurrently? Different cells only goes so far. Rebel leadership would have to be like, "well we got these two experienced jedi over here and this other untrained jedi here...I guess keep then seperated so the guy who just blew up the death star doesn't refine his abilities? This sounds good to me. Hey Ackbar, what do you think? Should we put the jedi together so this skywalker kid learns how to use his space magic?"

"Its a trap!"

"No you dippy fishstick, not everything is a trap. But I guess **** it, we need your luxury crusiers"

Tl:dr; they all have to die, or be otherwise removed from the board, because otherwise decisions made before the characters were even concieved of wouldn't make sense. Except Chopper. He can live.

Here's what I really, really, really want from Rebels:

Darth Maul to stop Riekanning back for the last time. I'm waiting for Filoni to chop him in half vertically and have him survive that too.

Killed or just goes into hiding. Killed seems dark for a Disney show, but since they more or less implied death with Asokha, it wouldn't be out of the question. The only people who need to be out of the picture before ANH is Ezra and Kanan. The remainder of the crew could still exist without being an integral part of the SW universe as we know without it being pretty odd.

Zeb and Sabine, maybe. Hera would have been established as upper tier leadership if she survived to Endor, which she was not at.

That said I wouldn't mind the writers finding a loophole because I prefer that my heroes get to live.

That said I wouldn't mind the writers finding a loophole because I prefer that my heroes get to live.

Neh, that happens entirely too often.

Edited by Drasnighta

I hit the refresh button, right as I was about to post and you beat me to the punch about Maul!

Don't get me wrong, I have loved what the shows (Clone Wars and Rebels) have done for the character, taking a snoozefest bad guy, and made him one of my favorite sith characters, but he does need to leave now.

Their Jedi status doesn't matter. In order for them to live they would have to renounce being rebels entirely, or where the force are they? You can say that they were on mission or something for Yavin/Hoth, sure. But what about Endor? How do you not send all your jedi at that moonbase? This is an all or nothing, hold nothing in reserve type op. And even if they aren't jedi at that point because reasons, they would still be one of if not the most experienced strike team in the rebellion. Of course you would tap that resource!

And how does Luke not hook up with these guys if they serve concurrently? Different cells only goes so far. Rebel leadership would have to be like, "well we got these two experienced jedi over here and this other untrained jedi here...I guess keep then seperated so the guy who just blew up the death star doesn't refine his abilities? This sounds good to me. Hey Ackbar, what do you think? Should we put the jedi together so this skywalker kid learns how to use his space magic?"

"Its a trap!"

"No you dippy fishstick, not everything is a trap. But I guess **** it, we need your luxury crusiers"

Tl:dr; they all have to die, or be otherwise removed from the board, because otherwise decisions made before the characters were even concieved of wouldn't make sense. Except Chopper. He can live.

Here's what I really, really, really want from Rebels:

Darth Maul to stop Riekanning back for the last time. I'm waiting for Filoni to chop him in half vertically and have him survive that too.

Its simple for me, for the crew.

Kanan dies. In some cheap-shot way.

Ezra loses it, dark side, has to be put down like Rabid Dog.

Hera goes nuts with grief, flies the Ghost into a Star Destroyer, taking everyone else with her.

There.

Nice neat package of never talk about them again.

Their Jedi status doesn't matter. In order for them to live they would have to renounce being rebels entirely, or where the force are they? You can say that they were on mission or something for Yavin/Hoth, sure. But what about Endor? How do you not send all your jedi at that moonbase? This is an all or nothing, hold nothing in reserve type op. And even if they aren't jedi at that point because reasons, they would still be one of if not the most experienced strike team in the rebellion. Of course you would tap that resource!

And how does Luke not hook up with these guys if they serve concurrently? Different cells only goes so far. Rebel leadership would have to be like, "well we got these two experienced jedi over here and this other untrained jedi here...I guess keep then seperated so the guy who just blew up the death star doesn't refine his abilities? This sounds good to me. Hey Ackbar, what do you think? Should we put the jedi together so this skywalker kid learns how to use his space magic?"

"Its a trap!"

"No you dippy fishstick, not everything is a trap. But I guess **** it, we need your luxury crusiers"

Tl:dr; they all have to die, or be otherwise removed from the board, because otherwise decisions made before the characters were even concieved of wouldn't make sense. Except Chopper. He can live.

During the Clone Wars cartoons, didn't they make up Ahsoka's character? I don't remember anywhere of Anikan having a padiwan. Sure, this was before Disney got the rights, but George Lucas changed the canon because he could. Plus, she left the Jedi Order before Order 66, so she was conveniently not seen in RoTS, where again, there was no mention of her. Wouldn't having a padiwan leave the Order because of Anikan been mentioned anywhere if it was canon before that movie? No, because George can do what ever he wants. So, no one has to die because they weren't mentioned in the movies made 30+ years ago.

But I hope they go full GoT and start killing people because that really can drive a plot forward, instead of this disrupt supply lines and make a strike force to help the rebellion bs they have now.

During the Clone Wars cartoons, didn't they make up Ahsoka's character? I don't remember anywhere of Anikan having a padiwan. Sure, this was before Disney got the rights, but George Lucas changed the canon because he could. Plus, she left the Jedi Order before Order 66, so she was conveniently not seen in RoTS, where again, there was no mention of her. Wouldn't having a padiwan leave the Order because of Anikan been mentioned anywhere if it was canon before that movie? No, because George can do what ever he wants. So, no one has to die because they weren't mentioned in the movies made 30+ years ago.

But I hope they go full GoT and start killing people because that really can drive a plot forward, instead of this disrupt supply lines and make a strike force to help the rebellion bs they have now.

She didn't leave because of Anakin.

Someone needs to watch the Episodes in Question :D

She left before she was made a Jedi. Walked out completely. But the important thing to note is, at this point, the Jedi Order is still a thing, and they were very busy at the time... So they just, well, got on with it without her.

That, and the Clone Wars series was specifically called out as Canon when Disney took over, anyway :D

Edited by Drasnighta

Ezra HAS to die. His continued existence would alter the OT in a way I personally find unacceptable. If he was more of a smuggler type who used minimal force abilities to make his way through the universe that would be one thing but he has been and continues to be portrayed as a powerful young jedi with a large array of force abilities. Not only that but Vader knows this and therefore the Emperor most likely knows as well. Tarkin most certainly knows at this point.

Him being alive during ANH diminishes the character of Vader. Vader is supposed to be the last jedi alive, which is why Luke is such a surprise. Luke is the new hope. Obi Wan was a surprise but only because they didnt know what happened to him and hid in isolation on a planet at the backend of the galaxy. Ezra is not staying low-key. If Vader knows Ezra is alive and his job is hunting down the jedi then what good is he?

It diminishes Luke and to a degree Leia. Yoda himself to Obi-Wan says Luke and Leia are the last hope the light side of the force has. Why would Yoda say that if Ezra, who he's talked to and whom he can probably sense through the force, is alive?

Edited by Forresto

She didn't leave because of Anakin.

Someone needs to watch the Episodes in Question :D

She left before she was made a Jedi. Walked out completely. But the important thing to note is, at this point, the Jedi Order is still a thing, and they were very busy at the time... So they just, well, got on with it without her.

That, and the Clone Wars series was specifically called out as Canon when Disney took over, anyway :D

I haven't seen them in a few years :P But my point still stands that characters can be made up out of nowhere, and not be referenced anywhere except content made after their creation. Hence, the characters in Rebels don't need to die because this stuff has happened before, regardless of the owner of Star Wars. Now, if they go and kill them off, that's a different story.

That's all Lucas prequel nonsense though.

She didn't leave because of Anakin.

Someone needs to watch the Episodes in Question :D

She left before she was made a Jedi. Walked out completely. But the important thing to note is, at this point, the Jedi Order is still a thing, and they were very busy at the time... So they just, well, got on with it without her.

That, and the Clone Wars series was specifically called out as Canon when Disney took over, anyway :D

I haven't seen them in a few years :P But my point still stands that characters can be made up out of nowhere, and not be referenced anywhere except content made after their creation. Hence, the characters in Rebels don't need to die because this stuff has happened before, regardless of the owner of Star Wars. Now, if they go and kill them off, that's a different story.

If they aren't referenced later in the universe, then one has to ask "why not." Without an acceptable answer, the universe starts to suck.

Asoka wasn't mentioned in RotS, because she had gone Away. No one knew where. It's sort of a stretch, but it works.

Having extra Jedi wandering around, as part of the Rebellion, doesn't work. We saw the Rebellion participate in at least one all-or-nothing encounter, and no extra Jedi showed up. Why not? The only acceptable answers I can think of is that they were dead, or had Gone Away, and were a non-factor in the survival of the Rebellion.

That's all Lucas prequel nonsense though.

Which is still canon via Disney, because Ahsoka appears in Rebels. I didn't like her character, because it didn't follow any lore that I read. Nowhere did I see Anikan had a padiwan, until she pops up in this cartoon. In fact, she was created to appeal to a younger, female audience, and to make the story less "harsh" for a kids show.

It appears Disney is doing the same thing with Rebels. Making up characters that are not referenced in any of the older movies, because these characters didn't exist at the time.

She didn't leave because of Anakin.

Someone needs to watch the Episodes in Question :D

She left before she was made a Jedi. Walked out completely. But the important thing to note is, at this point, the Jedi Order is still a thing, and they were very busy at the time... So they just, well, got on with it without her.

That, and the Clone Wars series was specifically called out as Canon when Disney took over, anyway :D

I haven't seen them in a few years :P But my point still stands that characters can be made up out of nowhere, and not be referenced anywhere except content made after their creation. Hence, the characters in Rebels don't need to die because this stuff has happened before, regardless of the owner of Star Wars. Now, if they go and kill them off, that's a different story.

If they aren't referenced later in the universe, then one has to ask "why not." Without an acceptable answer, the universe starts to suck.

Asoka wasn't mentioned in RotS, because she had gone Away. No one knew where. It's sort of a stretch, but it works.

Having extra Jedi wandering around, as part of the Rebellion, doesn't work. We saw the Rebellion participate in at least one all-or-nothing encounter, and no extra Jedi showed up. Why not? The only acceptable answers I can think of is that they were dead, or had Gone Away, and were a non-factor in the survival of the Rebellion.

Chances are they are going to simply disappear. Rebels will run its course and then will be dropped, much like the Clone Wars was. They left a lot of stories unfinished in the series. And that will solve the issue of killing off the main characters for a kids show. And remember, this is Disney. Not George Lucas or Cartoon Network. I find it unlikely they will kill their protagonists. Villains, sure. They've done it before. But your main characters? I don't see it happening. I'd love it and I want it, but not with Disney.

She didn't leave because of Anakin.

Someone needs to watch the Episodes in Question :D

She left before she was made a Jedi. Walked out completely. But the important thing to note is, at this point, the Jedi Order is still a thing, and they were very busy at the time... So they just, well, got on with it without her.

That, and the Clone Wars series was specifically called out as Canon when Disney took over, anyway :D

I haven't seen them in a few years :P But my point still stands that characters can be made up out of nowhere, and not be referenced anywhere except content made after their creation. Hence, the characters in Rebels don't need to die because this stuff has happened before, regardless of the owner of Star Wars. Now, if they go and kill them off, that's a different story.

If they aren't referenced later in the universe, then one has to ask "why not." Without an acceptable answer, the universe starts to suck.

Asoka wasn't mentioned in RotS, because she had gone Away. No one knew where. It's sort of a stretch, but it works.

Having extra Jedi wandering around, as part of the Rebellion, doesn't work. We saw the Rebellion participate in at least one all-or-nothing encounter, and no extra Jedi showed up. Why not? The only acceptable answers I can think of is that they were dead, or had Gone Away, and were a non-factor in the survival of the Rebellion.

I don't think it's that big of a stretch, it is a BIG Galaxy, plus you have huge stretches of Wild Space, Unknown Regions. You have it canon already that an entire World was a legend to their own species, the Lastat. It's not that big a of stretch to say the Ghost and her crew just disappear for a few years. Or maybe it was a ploy to draw off a certain Grand Admiral, otherwise Thrawn would have been at Endor and destroyed the Rebel fleet.

She didn't leave because of Anakin.

Someone needs to watch the Episodes in Question :D

She left before she was made a Jedi. Walked out completely. But the important thing to note is, at this point, the Jedi Order is still a thing, and they were very busy at the time... So they just, well, got on with it without her.

That, and the Clone Wars series was specifically called out as Canon when Disney took over, anyway :D

I haven't seen them in a few years :P But my point still stands that characters can be made up out of nowhere, and not be referenced anywhere except content made after their creation. Hence, the characters in Rebels don't need to die because this stuff has happened before, regardless of the owner of Star Wars. Now, if they go and kill them off, that's a different story.

If they aren't referenced later in the universe, then one has to ask "why not." Without an acceptable answer, the universe starts to suck.

Asoka wasn't mentioned in RotS, because she had gone Away. No one knew where. It's sort of a stretch, but it works.

Having extra Jedi wandering around, as part of the Rebellion, doesn't work. We saw the Rebellion participate in at least one all-or-nothing encounter, and no extra Jedi showed up. Why not? The only acceptable answers I can think of is that they were dead, or had Gone Away, and were a non-factor in the survival of the Rebellion.

I don't think it's that big of a stretch, it is a BIG Galaxy, plus you have huge stretches of Wild Space, Unknown Regions. You have it canon already that an entire World was a legend to their own species, the Lastat. It's not that big a of stretch to say the Ghost and her crew just disappear for a few years. Or maybe it was a ploy to draw off a certain Grand Admiral, otherwise Thrawn would have been at Endor and destroyed the Rebel fleet.

Thrawn could also die in rebels. He doesn't need to survive this series.

Thrawn could also die in rebels. He doesn't need to survive this series.

Quite true, that is an option. Though Thrawn is an incredibly popular character, letting the Ghost Rebels kill him off... it doesn't sit right.

Thrawn could also die in rebels. He doesn't need to survive this series.

Quite true, that is an option. Though Thrawn is an incredibly popular character, letting the Ghost Rebels kill him off... it doesn't sit right.

If Thrawn does die in Rebels, my money is on Agent Kallus killing him. It's already been proven that the voice of Fulcrum from the season 3 trailer is Kallus, and it would be fitting that an Imperial Thrawn believes is loyal would betray him. Mirroring how he was killed off in the books. This way he isn't outsmarted or truly "beaten" by the heroes, but betrayed by one he thought he could trust.

A variable he couldn't account for.