Allow multiple saves, please.

By M_Vuorinen, in Mansions of Madness

Thanks, Tsuma. I'm not a programmer, so, I don't know of the costs and difficulties of such a thing as implementing multiple saves.

If you haven't got the game saving feature at all, it would be a substantial amount of work to implement one.

But when you already have game saves implemented, adding more slots is simple.

(I felt like I should detail it out a little more)

Edited by tsuma534

Furthermore, if they wanted to maintain the "peril", once a slot is loaded and restarted, they could make it so you couldn't reset and roll back in time. Just that the game tracks in multiple slots, rather than the single slot they have right now. You can't roll back the one save now, but it does save incrementally, as you play. Just instead of a single track, they could provide multiple tracks for this. No going back -- you either start a new game or resume an old one. So it's both trivially solvable and still maintains their goal. (And yes, I can think of additional ways to further metagame this, but I suspect they would already apply to the existing game. They should stop trying to solve problems that only exist in their heads.)

I ordered this on September 5th, excitedly unboxed it, painted all the investigators and got going on the monsters too. We played our first game on the 16th September, but had to cut it short as some of my group had to catch a train.

So I've got this really expensive game that I loved the first game of...but I haven't played it since. Hooray!

FFG is losing money from me that I'd spend on expansions - why expand a game that I can only play so infrequently?

solves a non-existent problem

You hit the spot here.

Even if, for some reason, some people would want to metagame the hell out of this game with multiple saves, why not allow them? It's not like they're going to cheat using this knowledge in some Mansions of Madness tournament.

If someone finds metagaming fun, what's wrong with that?

Julia: " It's nice they gave you a detailed answer, but still, the background message I receive is always the same... "

If you already have one game save, having multiple ones is not a problem. The work needed to implement multiple saves, is close to nothing when compared with the app cost. I'm saying this as a programmer.

Thus I don't believe at all in the "we don't want to spend money" explanation. Especially since they did "spend the money" in Road to Legend. I think someone genuinely haven't thought this through.

I have sent FFG an email, I'm attaching it here as an open letter.

Hello,

While waiting for the localized version of the Mansions of Madness Second Edition, I have learned that the game only allows us to have one game saved at a time.

In another of your games, Descent: Road to Legend, we pretty much always have two campaigns going around. One just for me and my wife, the other also includes a friend who visits sometimes.

We were prepared we're going to do the same in Mansions of Madness, as we're all fans of the first edition, thrilled with the arrival of second one.

But one of the scenarios, in Mansions of Madness second edition, lasts for several hours.
With only one game save we will never be able to play this scenario with our friend.
Because she visits once per two weeks, we would need to keep that save for at least month, and in that time we wouldn't be able to play with just the two us. It's not something we would want to do.

It also goes the other way round. If we're going to have the long-scenario save for the two of us, and she spontaneously visits, we're going to have a painful dilemma.

The game shouldn't force me to synchronize our game sessions with our friend visits. These can not always be planned in advance.

We all love Mansions of Madness and If we'll need to delete a save just to start another game, or to resign of a game just to not delete a save, it will make us very sad and upset.
Yours sincerely,

Krzysztof Domański

Thanks for sending them a letter. I hope they read the forum, but the more people that contact them directly, the more they (hopefully) will understand the impact of their decision.

Multiple saves is a basic feature, one that is on many cheap apps, and it should be on a £80 game. Come on FFG, you can do it, or take 2 HORROR ;)

Multiple saves is a basic feature, one that is on many cheap apps, and it should be on a £80 game. Come on FFG, you can do it, or take 2 HORROR ;)

Face up!

I'd like to start a scenario solo and another with my friends. Sadly I can't. I really do think multiple save slots is a must.

How about open sourcing the app, I'd be happy to help implementing this feature :)

If you are running on an android device, you can save as normal, quit the app, then go to rot>sdcard>Android>data>com.fantasyflightgames.mom>files. There you will find a clue(!), in the form of a folder named SavedGame.

Rename the folder "SavedGame" to something like "SavedGame_DearlyDepartedwithSusanne" or whatever so you know what session it is. Make a new folder called SavedGame.

Now when you start, you will not have the option to continue, but you can save a new session without overwriting your old. To get back to your old while keeping your new save, just rename the SavedGame folder to whatever ("SavedGamewithSteve"), then rename the "SavedGame_DearlyDepartedwithSusanne" to "SavedGame" and you can continue your old campaign where you left off.

If you want to meta the game, you can save and rename however much you want...

Plain silly that this function is not included in the app, and metaplaying a detective/horror game is like... what? Why would anyone do that?

Edited by totgeboren

I found a similar location on Windows for Steam users.

C:\Users\XXXXX\AppData\LocalLow\Fantasy Flight Games\Mansions of Madness Second Edition\SavedGames\

Where the XXXXX represents the first 5 letters of your computer user name.

Then just follow the steps that totgeboren listed above for copying and making new folders.

13 minutes ago, LordPyrex said:

I found a similar location on Windows for Steam users.

C:\Users\XXXXX\AppData\LocalLow\Fantasy Flight Games\Mansions of Madness Second Edition\SavedGames\

Where the XXXXX represents the first 5 letters of your computer user name.

Then just follow the steps that totgeboren listed above for copying and making new folders.

LOL, never mind, just saw above posts. Guess I missed this thread before...