Double Lancer?

By JasonCole, in X-Wing Squad Lists

So to those that have flown the lancer/shadowcaster (at all, which is more than me...), what do you think about the ship so far? I bought one on Thursday when they came out, and haven't had a chance to crack it open. Then last night, I won a tournament in which I won a second one (because big ships, amirite?). Any thoughts on the list below?

DEFIANT

100 points

PILOTS

Ketsu Onyo (53)
Lancer-class Pursuit Craft (38), Push the Limit (3), Recon Specialist (3), Black Market Slicer Tools (1), Rigged Cargo Chute (1), Shadow Caster (3), Engine Upgrade (4)

Asajj Ventress (47)
Lancer-class Pursuit Craft (37), Push the Limit (3), Recon Specialist (3), Black Market Slicer Tools (1), Rigged Cargo Chute (1), Gyroscopic Targeting (2)

I feel like PTL with BMST and Recon might be usable with Asajj handing out stress (hopefully). The dial I think is green enough to make up for using PTL, and getting two focus (one def and one off) should help survivability. For the turns that I can't BMST, then its evade dbl focus, or boost and dbl focus.

This ship is FAST. Like REALLY fast. You can literally fly circles around people, and when you get stressed the dial is stupid good. Asajj lived the whole game I played with two HP, and was able to get pot shots off in a great manner. I was only able to use Ketsu's ability once, which was a huge bummer. I also never used the Rigged Cargo Chute, due it it being an action, I felt the other actions were way more crucial towards my playing.

Latest Razzi is also pretty good on Asajj, but something like this will be what I'm switching to use. My list looks like:

Ketsu Onyo Veteran Instincts, Dengar, Glitterstim, Rigged Cargo Chute, Shadow Caster, Engine Upgrade

Asajj Ventress Push The Limit, Latts Razzi, Black Market Slicer Tools, Rigged Cargo Chute, Gyroscopic Targeting.

But I like the idea of PTL on Ketso as well, could be a nice addition.

K4 Droid is much better than Recon Spec.

Rigged Cargo Chute is meh.

If you drop the two chutes, you have enough points to give Ventress an engine upgrade.

If you don't, Ventress will always die first, and most often sooner than you'd like

Hmm, so TL Focus Evade using K4 and PTL over Focus Focus TL or Focus Focus Evade. Hmm, I guess I see the point, TL is more valuable than a second focus?

Hmm, so TL Focus Evade using K4 and PTL over Focus Focus TL or Focus Focus Evade. Hmm, I guess I see the point, TL is more valuable than a second focus?

Hell yeah. Especially since you get the TL no matter what (i.e. you can go through a rock, get blocked, be quadruple stressed, etc).

But even if that were not the case, you will have turns where you don't need to use both focus tokens, and the unused one gets removed at the end of the turn. Not so with an unused TL.

I can dig that. Plus, I can always use a TL to reroll a focus if necessary. Can't use a focus to reroll a blank.