Wookieepedia just spat at me:

Lucrehulks are almost twice the length of an ISD1 (3000m vs 1600m)

But half half the engine power (Atmosphereic Speeds of 500kph vs 975kph)

Of course, that doesn't say much overall.

But check yourself

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lucrehulk-class_battleship

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_I-class_Star_Destroyer

Makes sense though. The CIS Lucrehulk's were just cargo ships they stuck guns on. The size and slowness makes sense for a massive cargo ship. And for the speed, anytime we see Lucerhulk's in the movies they seem pretty stationary

Their size and carrier capacity is probably what made them a viable battleship.

If I ever get to field a rebel version of a Providence-class, Recusant-class, and/or Munificent-class ship in Armada, I will be an even happier player. The CIS ship aesthetic was always really cool, and a nice contrast to the Republic's uniformity in their ships. Just as the Rebel ships are now.

And while we're in the realm of magical Christmas land of ships, I would also like a Subjugator-class heavy cruiser in my Armada game. It's about the same size as an Imperial 1-class Star Destroyer. And I'd love to fire a massive Ion Cannon at my enemies.

I've always through the Rebel alliance should have more access to a wider range of equipment than the Empire. Rebels should use any space craft they can. Republic, Pre-Republic, Separatist, Empire, early Empire, Late Empire, Alien, anything that is a viable military equipment would be used.

If I ever get to field a rebel version of a Providence-class, Recusant-class, and/or Munificent-class ship in Armada, I will be an even happier player. The CIS ship aesthetic was always really cool, and a nice contrast to the Republic's uniformity in their ships. Just as the Rebel ships are now.

And while we're in the realm of magical Christmas land of ships, I would also like a Subjugator-class heavy cruiser in my Armada game. It's about the same size as an Imperial 1-class Star Destroyer. And I'd love to fire a massive Ion Cannon at my enemies.

The Subjagator is nearly 5km long! That is more than an ISD.

If I ever get to field a rebel version of a Providence-class, Recusant-class, and/or Munificent-class ship in Armada, I will be an even happier player. The CIS ship aesthetic was always really cool, and a nice contrast to the Republic's uniformity in their ships. Just as the Rebel ships are now.

And while we're in the realm of magical Christmas land of ships, I would also like a Subjugator-class heavy cruiser in my Armada game. It's about the same size as an Imperial 1-class Star Destroyer. And I'd love to fire a massive Ion Cannon at my enemies.

The Subjagator is nearly 5km long! That is more than an ISD.

Huh... you're right. I've been looking at the wrong size charts!

Still want it though. Impressive size for a battleship given it's era.

Well, X-wing has just got the ARC-170, which gives us some clues as to where Clone War era craft sit in comparison to Civil War. The description on the back of the pack is as follows: 'The Rebel Alliance recovered, repaired, and retrofitted a handful of ARC-170 starfighters during the Galactic Civil War. Though somewhat antiquated, the ship was still a force to be reckoned with, featuring powerful cannons, heavy shielding, and a tail gunner.' So by the sounds of things, the ARC-170's weapons remained powerful, and its sturdy and quality build made it reliable and difficult to take down, but it was slower and less manoeuvrable than the newer fighters. Much the same can be said of the Y-wing, for that matter; they were Clone War era ships that, by the time the Rebels got their hands on some, were slow but remained reliable. The feeling I've got from that is that the technology might be dated, but what differs between Republic and Imperial military doctrine is a question of quality. Look at the TIE, or even the Interceptor - fast, manoeuvrable and well armed, but designed to be disposable. By contrast, ARC-170s and Y-wings are clearly of good enough quality to have survived years of disuse, be retrofitted and still serve as some of the primary fighters in the Rebel Fleet.

This kinda responds to the question of whether Clone War era technology was better or worse than Civil War era, but it also gives an indication of what we might expect from a retrofitted ship, particularly in the Rebel Fleet. If something like a Recusant-Class light destroyer were to be introduced - I would expect it to be slower than its equivalent sized ships, but to feature a comparable armament and offset its speed with advantages that might derive from the Clone War (perhaps something related to its being a droid ship, such as more than one support slot, for example).

The Recusant is one I'd particularly like to see - it certainly wouldn't look out of place, since it's a Mon Cal design, and seems like a cross between an MC80 and a Nebulon.

The Gozanti were Separatist warships for goodness sake and according to Rebels have widespread Imperial use.

I don't remember seeing them used by Separatists - though I did see them used by Black Sun. And some appeared in the PT before the Clone Wars broke out. They're basically civilian freighters - but ones easily refitted with weapons, and versatile - hence both Imperials and criminals using them (and probably legit traders as well).

Now that i'm looking on wookiepedia there's nothing. However I could swear i've read before that the separatists employed them during the war. It may have been in the background of one of the Revenge of the Sith battles such as Utapau. Oh that was many years ago, I doubt if anyone would know.

Aha wait a moment, on the Wookiepedia page for the Separatist Navy, Gozanti's are listed as a class under cruisers and corvettes along with the Trident- Class Assault Ship.

Aha wait a moment, on the Wookiepedia page for the Separatist Navy, Gozanti's are listed as a class under cruisers and corvettes along with the Trident- Class Assault Ship.

Yup - the episode they appeared in was in TCW Season 5: Secret Weapons:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Images_from_Secret_Weapons

(look closely at the Separatist Dreadnought pic and there's a Gozanti visible near the bottom edge of the image).

I call dibs on Delta-7's and V-19 Torrents being added to rebels, V-Wings and Eta-2's being added to Imps and the ARC being a multi-faction card for both rebels and imps

If like come wars era stuff, but I want it as a full two new factions to play out clone war era battles.

The Recusant is one I'd particularly like to see - it certainly wouldn't look out of place, since it's a Mon Cal design, and seems like a cross between an MC80 and a Nebulon.

FWIW, Armada Shipyards ' take on it was this:

That nav chart is a crutch.

I am a big fan of yours, DA. However this is one ship I, personally, think you erred on. The ship is supposed to be a heavy front arc ship. It has the potential to be a very interesting ship, though. The fore arc should like a Nebulon, but it should have a wide rear arc which is poorly shielded to represent the narrow "tunnel" in the back.

I'd love to see any ship in Armada, including Clone Wars and Old Republic era ships, to be in the game. However at this point, FFG only seem to want to focus on the GCW so we'd most likely only Clone Wars ships that were still around this time.

These are the ships that were still in use by the time of the GCW in both Legends and Canon.

Galactic Empire

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Acclamator-class_assault_ship/Legends

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Venator-class_Star_Destroyer/Legends

Rebel Alliance

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Consular-class_cruiser

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CSS-1_Corellian_Star_Shuttle/Canon

I am a big fan of yours, DA. However this is one ship I, personally, think you erred on. The ship is supposed to be a heavy front arc ship. It has the potential to be a very interesting ship, though. The fore arc should like a Nebulon, but it should have a wide rear arc which is poorly shielded to represent the narrow "tunnel" in the back.

Possibly. It was a tough call, and we had a long discussion on the subject. We also could not find much solid evidence of its capabilities. Ultimately we decided to distinguish it from the front-heavy Munificent and make it more of a flanker / raider.

Nevertheless, if a Clone Wars set is ever released, I may very well completely revise this design.

I think the Recusant has always been portrayed as a broadside focused ship such as seen in Grievous Intrigue for example.

The Munificent definitely seems forward battery heavy, seemingly negligible side armaments from what i've seen on TCW, while the Providence seems like a balance of forward and side batteries.

That nav chart is a crutch.

using a crutch is a crutch

(double posted see post below)

I Love Nova Defiant , though, DA!

I would hate to face republic or CIS factions as a Civil War Era player.

I agree that Republic and CIS should not be factions but there is plenty of canon precedent for ships from that conflict still being used today in various roles.

...and I bet sooner or later FFG will make capital ships for Scum faction...

We have another on going thread about this.

Look all i'm saying is the wellspring on canon OT ships will run out one day. It's silly to keep ignoring the Clone Wars era. I understand the prequels get a lot of hate but the art designs and the battles were not the bad aspects of those movies.

I think that is where you are wrong Forresto- Between Rogue One, Rebels, and host of other "Star Wars Tales" movies that could and probably are in production spanning the gaps in all three of the major trilogies, I don't think Disney ever needs to run out of material for any specific era in the SW franchise.

Call it revionist history.

Call it whatever you like.

But there is absolutely nothing stopping them from going back in time to the gap between Yavin and Hoth and inventing a new iconic ships and/or characters.

I am not saying that we won't ever see Clone Wars Ships, because there are a lot of really incredible ones I would love to get the chance to play with. I am just saying that using the argument that they will be forced to do this one day is taking it a step too far.

Long-term, we need not worry about running out of material.

Short-term, however, i would be at least a little worried. Most of the canon material out there is already in Armada.

As long as we continue to get good ships for Armada, i don't care if they come from the Clone Wars, EU/Legends, or are even made exclusively for the game.