Yes i know there are a lot of people who want the Quasar-Fire Class to be Imperial only, mostly because it fits the current Imperial design philosophy ("flying pizza slice"). I personally feel it's more at home with the Rebel side, but If ever there was a ship that deserved to be multi-faction, it's the Quasar
The idea of a uniform imperial ship design is already strange.
Yes i know there are a lot of people who want the Quasar-Fire Class to be Imperial only, mostly because it fits the current Imperial design philosophy ("flying pizza slice"). I personally feel it's more at home with the Rebel side, but If ever there was a ship that deserved to be multi-faction, it's the Quasar
The idea of a uniform imperial ship design is already strange.
I think its because looking back at it thematically a uniform Imperial design makes more sense then a non uniform design. The entire design scheme as seen in the films of the Empire is minimalist and repetitive and above all else creating controlled environments. It would make no sense if this didnt carry onto the Imperial Fleet. Remember Armada is set at a time when the Empire is at the height of their power.
When I see drawings of EU Imperial fleets where there are a hundred different Star Destroyer variants I cringe.
The rebels on the other hand are supposed to be a hodge podge of various alien and salvaged ships.
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Yes i know there are a lot of people who want the Quasar-Fire Class to be Imperial only, mostly because it fits the current Imperial design philosophy ("flying pizza slice"). I personally feel it's more at home with the Rebel side, but If ever there was a ship that deserved to be multi-faction, it's the Quasar
The idea of a uniform imperial ship design is already strange.
I think its because looking back at it thematically a uniform Imperial design makes more sense then a non uniform design. The entire design scheme as seen in the films of the Empire is minimalist and repetitive and above all else creating controlled environments. It would make no sense if this didnt carry onto the Imperial Fleet. Remember Armada is set at a time when the Empire is at the height of their power.
When I see drawings of EU Imperial fleets where there are a hundred different Star Destroyer variants I cringe.
The rebels on the other hand are supposed to be a hodge podge of various alien and salvaged ships.
Remember that the Empire never went full socialist and ships are not state but company designed and produced. And that nearly every warship (except the MonCal ships and the some like the Assualt Frigate Mk. II) were produced for the Republic or the Empire.
Its a silly idea that in the whole galaxy all companies would somehow only build "wedge" star ships. Why? To please some strange beaurcrat that is crazy about wedges and has the authority to decide over designs?
The thing is: The Imperial class star destroyer is the Prime vessel of the empire, that and the fact that it was developed from other wedge shaped vessels (Venator) is the only reason we see so many wedge ships. It makes no sense to except any other ship to have the same shape. I think Strike Cruisers and Dreadnoughts, Cr-90 and the Neb-B are much more plausible cruiser/escort ships, than just to make anything wedgy like the Raider. To have equipment (not uniforms) of that scale follow form over fundtion is comical or even Max Powers/Spaceballs level.
(from: http://brokelow.blogspot.de/2015/08/star-wars-armada-imperial-outer-rim.html)
Edited by DScipioThe wedge shape makes sense only for a frontal attack battle ship. If all imperial ships are wedges this limits the overall combat tactics available.
The wedge shape makes sense only for a frontal attack battle ship. If all imperial ships are wedges this limits the overall combat tactics available.
Apart from the fact that you can easily run head on into any other opposition and win.
No one can match the Empire in a pitched fleet battle.
The wedge shape makes sense only for a frontal attack battle ship. If all imperial ships are wedges this limits the overall combat tactics available.
Apart from the fact that you can easily run head on into any other opposition and win.
No one can match the Empire in a pitched fleet battle.
Yes, fighting a battle is always very easily and the side with the most powerful ship will easily and always win....
I think ideally (at least to me) a dedicated carrier would be the following:
1-2 Red/Blue dice on each hull zone
6 Hull
1 Red / 1 Blue anti-squadron
Command - 2
Squadron - 4 or 5
Engineering - 3
60 - 70 pts
I was actually a bit surprised that a card like Bomber Command Center was part of the support ships; it seemed much more fitting to be found on a dedicated fighter/bomber carrier. Maybe any new carriers would also have the support upgrade slot?
I think a support slot on a carrier is highly appropriate.
However, I'd give it command 3. IRL carriers have to work very predictably, large amounts of time cruising into the wind for launch and recovery.
The extra command also allows for more stored tokens, reflecting C&C avionics etc.
Agreed, for command of a light carrier. I was honestly surprised when H1 and the ISD weren't command 4, given the Victory and AF.
And fleet support makes sense too. Except slicer tools, but I feel that most people would find those to be a waste on carriers. It would also be nice to get some more fleet support options in 7-9 months or so, after the current selections have all been played out.
Also, the fragility of carriers is why they don't fly alone. It's a calculated gamble. Light carriers should be light.
Yes i know there are a lot of people who want the Quasar-Fire Class to be Imperial only, mostly because it fits the current Imperial design philosophy ("flying pizza slice"). I personally feel it's more at home with the Rebel side, but If ever there was a ship that deserved to be multi-faction, it's the Quasar
The idea of a uniform imperial ship design is already strange.
I think its because looking back at it thematically a uniform Imperial design makes more sense then a non uniform design. The entire design scheme as seen in the films of the Empire is minimalist and repetitive and above all else creating controlled environments. It would make no sense if this didnt carry onto the Imperial Fleet. Remember Armada is set at a time when the Empire is at the height of their power.
When I see drawings of EU Imperial fleets where there are a hundred different Star Destroyer variants I cringe.
The rebels on the other hand are supposed to be a hodge podge of various alien and salvaged ships.
Remember that the Empire never went full socialist and ships are not state but company designed and produced. And that nearly every warship (except the MonCal ships and the some like the Assualt Frigate Mk. II) were produced for the Republic or the Empire.
Its a silly idea that in the whole galaxy all companies would somehow only build "wedge" star ships. Why? To please some strange beaurcrat that is crazy about wedges and has the authority to decide over designs?
The thing is: The Imperial class star destroyer is the Prime vessel of the empire, that and the fact that it was developed from other wedge shaped vessels (Venator) is the only reason we see so many wedge ships. It makes no sense to except any other ship to have the same shape. I think Strike Cruisers and Dreadnoughts, Cr-90 and the Neb-B are much more plausible cruiser/escort ships, than just to make anything wedgy like the Raider. To have equipment (not uniforms) of that scale follow form over fundtion is comical or even Max Powers/Spaceballs level.
I'm not saying they all need to be wedges but from an artistic perspective the Empire needs cohesion to stand apart from the mix match of the Rebel Fleet. Take Star Trek for instance. The Federation has a ridiculous amount of ship variants but they're all tied around one key design feature, the saucer shape but even then there's a great diversity between designs.
I've always sensed the wedge serves the same purpose in Imperial thinking. We already know in the New canon the Empire uses Quasars from multiple episodes of Rebels. Plus as someone else stated it also reflects the battle formation.