At this point it's inevitable we will be getting the Quasar. Ideally it would be neutral and usable by both sides but for the moment, and for the sake of my idea, let's just say it'll be Imperial and the Rebels will get their own version (but with the same concept as below).

Carriers need to be unique. What if a carrier gave you a few free squadrons that don't count towards the fleet cost? Carriers have four slots/hangers and each squadron costs a certain amount of slots. So you can mix and match what you bring into a match as long as counts up to four slots. Ideally the total cost of filling the slot cost would still be less, even with the more expensive squadrons, then the total cost of the carrier

Imperials

Tie Fighters--One slot each

Tie Interceptors--One slot each

Tie Bombers--Two slots each

Tie Advanced--Two slots each

Rebels

X-Wings--Two slots each

A-Wing--One slot each

Y-Wing--Two slots each

B-Wing--Two slots each

So for example an imperial carrier can bring four free tie fighter squadrons into a match OR two tie fighters and two tie interceptors OR a tie fighter, a tie interceptor, and tie bomber.

1: Carriers themselves are very fragile, need escorts. Adequate against enemy squadrons but almost glass against most capital ships, although a little better then flotillas.

2: Carriers can only deploy one squadron per round but that squadron can immediately move or attack. If the carrier is destroyed all squadrons still on board are destroyed as well.

3: Carriers have high squadron command.

3: Carriers can only carry standard fighters (No heroes or rogues or villains or large ships such as the decimator, imperial shuttle, Ghost, and etc...)

It's not a perfect idea yet but I think this would be an interesting way of spicing up fleets. There would need to obviously be restrictions that balance out what is obviously a big advantage. I think this would also help introduce more squadrons into battles as fighters are a key if not crucial aspect of Star Wars battles in every movie.

An interesting idea. I can also see carriers having fantastic AA dice pool too

1. No free points

2. We are getting an offensive slot that stores squadrons already.

1. No free points

2. We are getting an offensive slot that stores squadrons already.

I guess free points is a bad way of phrasing it. The free squadrons are really more of a rebate as you still have to invest in having a carrier in your fleet to begin with, which is not suited for fighting with capital ships. Ideally the total cost of filling the slot cost would still be less, even with the more expensive squadrons, then the cost of the carrier so your gains aren't that great but a nice incentive for adding a carrier to your fleet.

Quasar for rebels, Ton Flak (sp?) for imperials.

I think ideally (at least to me) a dedicated carrier would be the following:

1-2 Red/Blue dice on each hull zone

6 Hull

1 Red / 1 Blue anti-squadron

Command - 2

Squadron - 4 or 5

Engineering - 3

60 - 70 pts

I was actually a bit surprised that a card like Bomber Command Center was part of the support ships; it seemed much more fitting to be found on a dedicated fighter/bomber carrier. Maybe any new carriers would also have the support upgrade slot?

Quasar for rebels, Ton Flak (sp?) for imperials.

Man the Ton Falk is an ugly ship - almost a giant space slug. I'd still buy them though thanks to my 90's Tie Fighter nostalgia!

Quasar for rebels, Ton Flak (sp?) for imperials.

Man the Ton Falk is an ugly ship - almost a giant space slug. I'd still buy them though thanks to my 90's Tie Fighter nostalgia!

Well i'm hesitant to give the Quasar exclusively to the rebels and not the Empire only because it's design fits in with the Imperial fleet far better then most other EU carriers.

Maybe this would be an opportunity to allow FFG to create a new ship class as they did the raider but for a Rebel carrier. The rebel fleet really need a dedicated carrier anyways that could be used in other media besides Armada. Honestly the Ton Falk seems more in line with the Rebel designs then it does Imperials.

How about the Quasar for the Empire and the Ton Falk for the Rebels?

I'd like to see the dedicated carriers come with a title or upgrade that allows you to increase the fleet allotment you can spend on fighters. Maybe like, bring an extra 26 points of squadron.

I think the Pelta will fit the dedicated squadron pusher til later waves.

Well... The rebels could get the Neutron Star:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Neutron_Star-class_bulk_cruiser

In the Legends EU both the Quasar Fire and Neutron Star were bulk cruisers converted into carriers. The QF looks better in an imperial fleet with its triangular hull. The NS would fit better in the rebel fleet with its prominent chin.

Here's a nice picture of one from Edge of the Empire:

http://imgur.com/JVdZlGM

I'd like to see the dedicated carriers come with a title or upgrade that allows you to increase the fleet allotment you can spend on fighters. Maybe like, bring an extra 26 points of squadron.

This is my thought as well. Unique upgrade card (usable by both factions) makes all anti ship batteries on the ship reduced by 1, allows "x" extra points to be used on squadrons beyond the 33%.

So you can only use it once in your fleet. It reduces the effectiveness of the ship it goes on, increases how many fighters you can take in your list overall. Maybe a support team or offensive retro fit slot?

I think it's a great idea, a more dedicated carrier. Awesome AA should be on it, but have really poor ship combat abilities (Say 2 blue). A more fleet orientated fleet support ship, Goz just doesn't cut it for me in the area except as a repair ship.

I think ideally (at least to me) a dedicated carrier would be the following:

1-2 Red/Blue dice on each hull zone

6 Hull

1 Red / 1 Blue anti-squadron

Command - 2

Squadron - 4 or 5

Engineering - 3

60 - 70 pts

I was actually a bit surprised that a card like Bomber Command Center was part of the support ships; it seemed much more fitting to be found on a dedicated fighter/bomber carrier. Maybe any new carriers would also have the support upgrade slot?

The cheaper version of the Quasar-Fire would have blue anti-ship dice only, with the more expensive mixing red and blues. I'd say 2-3 forward dice, 2 port/starboard and 1 rear. Anti-Fighter battery should be good, as they know the danger of fighters. At least 2 blue.

The Flurry, Luke Skywalker's command ship at Bakura was described as well-shielded, but with light armor. So i'd give the Quasar-Fire 3 shields all-around, with 5 or 6 hull. Command 2, Squadron 5, Engineering 2 with the more expensive maybe Command 2, Squadron 4 and Engineering 3. Cheap version 59-60 and the more expensive somewhere around 66-68 points. But that's my take on it

The Quasar seen in Rebels (which is our Canon source), is defined and referred to as a Light Carrier.

So one must ensure that it is, indeed, a Light Carrier. By at least one definition of Light.

6 Hull, and comparable shields to an Assault Frigate, would be comparable to an Assault Frigate in everything but Armament...

Depowered, for sure... But it would not be Light, in my mind.

But that's the fun of conceptualising things, you can kick them around a bit...

The Quasar seen in Rebels (which is our Canon source), is defined and referred to as a Light Carrier.

So one must ensure that it is, indeed, a Light Carrier. By at least one definition of Light.

6 Hull, and comparable shields to an Assault Frigate, would be comparable to an Assault Frigate in everything but Armament...

Depowered, for sure... But it would not be Light, in my mind.

But that's the fun of conceptualising things, you can kick them around a bit...

Yep kick around a bit and make changes where needed

I could live with 5 points of hull, maybe even 4 hull as long as the shields are fairly strong. But once those shields go down you're in for trouble.

I'd like to see the dedicated carriers come with a title or upgrade that allows you to increase the fleet allotment you can spend on fighters. Maybe like, bring an extra 26 points of squadron.

What happens when that ship dies? Do the extra fighters also die as a breach of rules

I'd like to see the dedicated carriers come with a title or upgrade that allows you to increase the fleet allotment you can spend on fighters. Maybe like, bring an extra 26 points of squadron.

What happens when that ship dies? Do the extra

fighters also die as a breach of rules

At that point they have already been carried into the field of battle and deployed. Just make the trigger during deployment.

I think ideally (at least to me) a dedicated carrier would be the following:

1-2 Red/Blue dice on each hull zone

6 Hull

1 Red / 1 Blue anti-squadron

Command - 2

Squadron - 4 or 5

Engineering - 3

60 - 70 pts

I was actually a bit surprised that a card like Bomber Command Center was part of the support ships; it seemed much more fitting to be found on a dedicated fighter/bomber carrier. Maybe any new carriers would also have the support upgrade slot?

I think a support slot on a carrier is highly appropriate.

However, I'd give it command 3. IRL carriers have to work very predictably, large amounts of time cruising into the wind for launch and recovery.

The extra command also allows for more stored tokens, reflecting C&C avionics etc.

Seeing how this is a light carrier, i feel a command 3 is too high. Command 2 feels right to me.

Pelta Class Command ship

Pelta Class Command ship

Well maybe the imperials get something like a carrier with high command and the rebels get a carrier with low command to balance things out?

The Empire will probably at some point get the Ton-Falk Light Carrier and the Venator-Class Carrier. Yes i know there are a lot of people who want the Quasar-Fire Class to be Imperial only, mostly because it fits the current Imperial design philosophy ("flying pizza slice"). I personally feel it's more at home with the Rebel side, but If ever there was a ship that deserved to be multi-faction, it's the Quasar-Fire.

Quasar for rebels, Ton Flak (sp?) for imperials.

Man the Ton Falk is an ugly ship - almost a giant space manta.

You spelled quasar wrong.