I treid, I really did. I bought the game and the toolkit to give it a shot (no review because that's not what the problem is). I created a few resources to share with the community including an iPhone app.

But then I ran into the biggest problem with this game: the community.

I'm sick of it here. Either you're a fanboy or get out. Say even the smallest slight against this new edition and you're jumped on by a raving mob spewing nonsense because they're too blind to have a decent conversation. It's really pathetic people. It's just a game and I tried to do something with it and you, but you're not worth it.

No, of course it's not all of you. But it's not worth my time and effort (or anyone's frankly) to have to deal with the rabid fanboys. I'm not even going to bother over at Strike-to-stun or anywhere else.

Goodbye and good riddance.

This is so sad!!!

Whatever it really was that made you say that, I hope it will wear off. This is a great community. But I ques, everyone one once in awhile get real tired of people.

but still its sad.

Trodomir said:

I'm sorry to hear that has been your experience. I also agree, we have a duty to be respectful to each other and our opinions. Good luck in whatever game you settle on.

High Inquisitor

I must have completely missed whatever threads you're talking about. Lots of people acknowledge the weaknesses of the new system, and I haven't actually seen anyone deny that they exist. Still, I've seen far more hostility from 2e players towards 3e than the other way around.

Hope you find what you're looking for.

Vaeron said:

And that exactly same thing happened when 2e came out.

Seriously, I haven't come across anything like you mentioned.

I even started a topic 'Constructive Criticism' and it's been great

Tarring all with the same brush perhaps?

James Wallace was not the first to complain about the "community", nor will he be the last.

It seems that Warhamer (both Fantasy and 40K) have a higher number of rabid fanboys than other games.

Also, Trodomir should have given the fansite Hammerzeit! a chance before quitting....

The site is not (yet) as busy as StS or this forum, but the small community is at least positive about the game (besides its short comings) and we really could use an active member as Trodomir.

So, I hope I will see him on the Hammerzeit! forums before he walks away for ever.

We do sometime have a bit of a bit don't we, sorry for that, as I stated a few times earlier I think its a product of the v2 people attacking us verbally, not the game, but the actual v3 players verbally on several forums. Some see this as a war with very defined lines in it.

Personally i will be sorry to see you go..

I have read many of your posts...Many very insightful.

I know what its like to be attacked for only stating your view.

I have not found this forum to be honest like this but many other web sites are full of egos but that roleplaying for you...

Oh! Yes sorry to see you go mate, having bright people leave a discussion always deters from the overall.

Trodomir said:

Ah, stage II begins. I'm leaving threads.This is where we are suppossed to apologize for liking something. All the while you get to use terms such as fanboy, raving mob, patheitc, and not calling us worth it. .

I've seen 10,000 "I'm leaving forever fanboys" about another edition of another game.

I like this community, it's actually super friendly, but it IS going to defend what it likes, it's a V3 Warhammer forum. While there's probably many good criticisms to be made ultimately, well, we are here because we like it and we aren't going to criticise it to death, that's part of liking something.

So even after all this name calling, I'm going to wish you the very best in what you are looking for in gaming. Good luck.

Leaving a roleplaying game, because of people you dont know who is or where they are?

ooooookey....

Well... Hope you find a game you like and stay away from the internet so you'l stick with it.

KjetilKverndokken said:

Yeah. Not sure I understand why you feel the need to stop playing a game you enjoy because of the online community...no matter how much they piss you off. Why not just stop visiting that particular online community?

Perspective is a wonderful thing and he needs to get some.

Here we go...

I never quite know why people post these things.

You're either going to fall into one of two categories:

1) You're sincere and truly do like to tell people off for all that will accomplish, which is nothing.

2) You're going to continue checking on the posts to see what ripples you caused, if any.

I really don't see the point of either.

I do understand rabid fanboys. But to really see them, you have to go to other forums. 4th edition fanboys will make everybody here appear to be the model of civility. White Wolf also breeds insta-fanboys. I dislike the Exalted system and hate the Scion system but if you try to express anything negative...it's like a mutant walking into Middenheim. A crowd of people will swarm you and string you up and you're pretty much dead to them.

This place is quite civil in comparison. And I found it was extremely helpful to discuss a bunch of the rule questions and figure this game out.

On a side note, not having played any other edition (though for the sake of accuracy I have the (?first edition) softcover on my bookshelf next to me as I write):

the controversy actually got me interested in the game in the first place

Have to say the community here is generally awesome. I also get tired of being labeled a fanboi on any forum where I happen to like the product we are discussing in the forums.

In nerdrage circles, anyone who likes something you don't is automatically a fanboy.

Deadline247 said:

Fixed!

Deadline247 said:

Dunno if that was supposed to be a joke or something??

I would generally say that anybody who is a fanboy is somebody who starts to insult you for having a different opinion than them (i.e. not loving the system that they love). i.e. I've been called stupid because I didn't like D&D 4th edition. I was even in a constructive criticism thread so it seemed rather uncalled for. The child who did it was clearly a fanboy. I've gotten the same response on the Scion forum as well.

I don't think people are calling other people stupid here for critcing the system.

It almost seems like its time to do a James Foxworthy "you know your a redneck" style "you know your a fanboi when..." list.

Often people see "fanboy" syndrome because the go to a forum and get berated for something that's been posted 100 times already. The fact is that if you like a game, you may spend a bunch of time on that company's forum, which leads you to seeing the exact same negative comments over and over, among them threads like "I hate the new system" and "goodbye" threads with the legitimate complaints, posted over and over and over. If your reaction isn't what the OP intended, well you are a fanboy. So simply the reaction to seeing "yet another one of THESE threads" causes you to be seen as a fanboy when really it's just a matter of:

1. Yeah, we know that's a problem, you can visit the other 99 threads on it if you like.

2. Why are you telling me goodbye if you are never coming back?

3. I get it, you are here to troll.

As to legitimate fanboys, well I have much more tolerance for them when you "come into their house" so to speak. If you want to really crtique a game as awful, do it at RPGGEEK, which is sort of a neutral site. If you have even the slightest dislike for a game, why go to a place where everyone loves it? It's not like any of your comments are going to convert players to your side, ultimately your presence just ends up being trouble.

Vaeron said:

agree, i hope you enjoy the new system tho....you will be missed in hte forums

also...what is the app called?

I can understand frustration about fanboys and I do see them about in the forum but I dont see your concerns here. I posted a topic recently about how our gaming group didnt get started due to the layout of the rules and the amount of stuff in the box. I had 3 pages of discussion of the faults of the system and my views on how the situation could be improved (books summerising the cards and careers as well as the option for normal style character sheets) which was perfectly civil.

In fact I have posted nothing but negativity and while the occational post is a touch on the defensive side most replys acknowledge my arguements and contribute constuctively to the conversation. Just so that it is known I have yet to play the game and am hoping to enjoy it when we finally get around to it (probably when some more stuff has come out for it).

Kaihlik