shed a tear, for Shara was almost viable

By ficklegreendice, in X-Wing

behold! the monster that almost was!

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because Snap Shot can't modify the roll, you're free to use Shara's Target Lock without it being a hideous inefficient waste of a modifier :o

and, as people have noticed, because you're attacking before enemies perform an action, r3-a2 can shut off actions guaranteed using snapshot

so why isn't it viable?

snapshot is a 2ndary weapon

so your auxiliary arc, i.e your raison d'etre for flying an ARC at all, is **** worthless

shed a tear for Shara, made doa twice now :(

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but idk, maybe one of you crazy kids will still run it effectively

http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!204:18,-1,184,3:41:26:;205:205,-1,61,69:41:-1:;4:-1,77:-1:20:&sn=final%20ARC%20build

I'm definitely going to play around with Shara and M9-G8. With weapons engineer you can debuff two enemy shots and still have a target lock left over for a low PS missle strike.

I prefer the sound of Thane for m9-g8

just cheaper, and can lock during combat for some mean torpedoes afterwards

Thane (26)

*m9g8

*wep enginner

*plasmas

*g-chips

[35]

being able to use plasmas with chips for only 1 more point than shara seems to be a better deal

and you're flying biggs so you're getting the ability (and biggs is a fine m9g8 target because he generally can't re-roll his reds)

edit:

but you have to shed a second tear, because 35 + 26 = 39 points left and my favorite Norra (ptl r2-d2 vectored thrusters tailgunner) is 40 points :( :( :(

and she'd be the perfect third ship

Edited by ficklegreendice

Why is snap shot a secondary weapon? It has the Elite Pilot Talent symbol on it.

Why is snap shot a secondary weapon? It has the Elite Pilot Talent symbol on it.

because its an attack that isnt the red number printed on your pilot card.

ANY attack other than that is a secondary. Which is also why the card doesnt specify "in your firing arc" because thats an inherit rule anyway.

Why is snap shot a secondary weapon? It has the Elite Pilot Talent symbol on it.

Go ahead and tell me why snap shot is a missile, and we'll find the right slot for it.

Why is snap shot a secondary weapon? It has the Elite Pilot Talent symbol on it.

Go ahead and tell me why snap shot is a missile, and we'll find the right slot for it.

Tell me how Chardean Refit is a missile and I'll agree with you.

It's a secondary the same way Hot Shot Blaster in the Illicit slot is a secondary.

Why is snap shot a secondary weapon? It has the Elite Pilot Talent symbol on it.

Go ahead and tell me why snap shot is a missile, and we'll find the right slot for it.

Tell me how Chardean Refit is a missile and I'll agree with you.

They striped the missiles handling system to reduces the cost of the ship.

Snap shot is something the pilot is doing. (hence ept)

Both of these make 100% sense if you are actually thinking.

As for why its a secondary weapon, because the rulebook says so? Do i need to go find the quote out of the rules for you?

"Secondary weapon cards show the header “Attack:”"-page 19 of the rulebook

Edited by Icelom

Why is snap shot a secondary weapon? It has the Elite Pilot Talent symbol on it.

Go ahead and tell me why snap shot is a missile, and we'll find the right slot for it.

Tell me how Chardean Refit is a missile and I'll agree with you.

They striped the missiles handling system to reduces the cost of the ship.

Snap shot is something the pilot is doing. (hence ept)

Both of these make 100% sense if you are actually thinking.

As for why its a secondary weapon, because the rulebook says so? Do i need to go find the quote out of the rules for you?

"Secondary weapon cards show the header “Attack:”"-page 19 of the rulebook

Now this - was constructive. Thank you.

As for why its a secondary weapon, because the rulebook says so?

well, you got it right because it's something the pilot is doing

need to petition FFG for ETTs, or elite tailgunner talents

As for why its a secondary weapon, because the rulebook says so?

well, you got it right because it's something the pilot is doing

need to petition FFG for ETTs, or elite tailgunner talents

Obviously it's because it's your sucky tail gunner shooting instead of your pilot :P

Edited by Zefirus

If Weapons engineer checks out, you could LRS, weapons Eng, and m9-g8, could be an ok and unique support piece.

FFG: Please errata this so this is a viable combo.

If Weapons engineer checks out, you could LRS, weapons Eng, and m9-g8, could be an ok and unique support piece.

Eh...why LRS? Shara only shares with friendlies in range 1-2, so the range 1-2 doughnut hole from LRS would seem to conflict with her ability? (Shara only shares her own target locks, after all, when a friendly is attacking - so her 'target lock sharing' doesn't do anything particularly unique for forcing enemy rerolls)

EDIT: of course, she can't take LRS, anyway, as she only has torpedo slots - no missiles

Edited by xanderf

FFG: Please errata this so this is a viable combo.

I think it will be. Having Snap Shot as a secondary weapon doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's a restricted EPT.

It's Page 16 in the RRG

Edited by Stoneface

a question of whether any ps5-8 pilot is actually truly viable... (other than biggs)

FFG: Please errata this so this is a viable combo.

I think it will be. Having Snap Shot as a secondary weapon doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's a restricted EPT.

It's Page 16 in the RRG

It is kind of weird to consider it a secondary. I mean...

I think it's an EPT Just for this exact reason.

FFG: Please errata this so this is a viable combo.

I think it will be. Having Snap Shot as a secondary weapon doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's a restricted EPT.

It's Page 16 in the RRG

It is kind of weird to consider it a secondary. I mean...

I think it's an EPT Just for this exact reason.

Well, it's not though.

By definition, it's a secondary weapon. Secondary weapons are things that have attack and range values and the Attack: header on them. It doesn't matter what slot they're in.

FFG: Please errata this so this is a viable combo.

I think it will be. Having Snap Shot as a secondary weapon doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's a restricted EPT.

It's Page 16 in the RRG

It is kind of weird to consider it a secondary. I mean...

I think it's an EPT Just for this exact reason.

Well, it's not though.

By definition, it's a secondary weapon. Secondary weapons are things that have attack and range values and the Attack: header on them. It doesn't matter what slot they're in.

But by definition it's also an EPT.

FFG: Please errata this so this is a viable combo.

I think it will be. Having Snap Shot as a secondary weapon doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's a restricted EPT.

It's Page 16 in the RRG

It is kind of weird to consider it a secondary. I mean...

I think it's an EPT Just for this exact reason.

Well, it's not though.

By definition, it's a secondary weapon. Secondary weapons are things that have attack and range values and the Attack: header on them. It doesn't matter what slot they're in.

But by definition it's also an EPT.

WHich makes no difference to whether it's also a secondary weapon, just like Seismic Torpedoes being a torpedo doesn't make them a secondary weapon, and Hot Shot Blaster being an illicit doesn't stop it being a secondary weapon.

The slot is irrelevant, the definition of secondary weapon is 'upgrade card with Attack: and a range and number of dice on it'.

Edited by thespaceinvader

If it's a secondary weapon, it's really stupid to put it on an EPT.

I prefer the sound of Thane for m9-g8

just cheaper, and can lock during combat for some mean torpedoes afterwards

Thane (26)

*m9g8

*wep enginner

*plasmas

*g-chips

[35]

being able to use plasmas with chips for only 1 more point than shara seems to be a better deal

and you're flying biggs so you're getting the ability (and biggs is a fine m9g8 target because he generally can't re-roll his reds)

edit:

but you have to shed a second tear, because 35 + 26 = 39 points left and my favorite Norra (ptl r2-d2 vectored thrusters tailgunner) is 40 points :( :( :(

and she'd be the perfect third ship

Do you think Weapons Engineer is needed? You could drop Thanes crew to Tail Gunner and afford your Norra. Has the advantage of not putting 6 points into your gimmick and making Thane stronger by himself.

If it's a secondary weapon, it's really stupid to put it on an EPT.

Secondary weapon doesn't carry a thematic meaning. Its any attack not performed with your primary weapon.

Guys...any "Attack:" is a Secondary Weapon. No matter what equip is