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Sloppy animation - Or Y-wing look-a-like ships with rotating cockpits

What's this?

What are you talking about? Might just be the blur effects that is confusing?

2:01,07-2:02,4

Sloppy animation - Or Y-wing look-a-like ships with rotating cockpits

What's this?

What are you talking about? Might just be the blur effects that is confusing?

they seem to be bucking about a bit that's all.

Seeing that ship makes me think it's a shuttle I've seen before. Yes....I think it is a shuttle from the Clone Wars.

As for the purists that only want stuff from the original 3 movies, I get it. They can still play the game their way....but only with others that want to play the game that way, too. Just drop tournaments and such and play with a closed group. It's not that bad a thing. There is also HotAC. You don't have to drop X-wing completely. The tournament scene isn't the only aspect of the game. If someone feels that strongly about the content then they should just break off.

2:01,07-2:02,4

Sloppy animation - Or Y-wing look-a-like ships with rotating cockpits

What's this?

played it in slow motion and saw nothing like you mentioned?

As for Rebels being a show for kids.... Star Wars films were films FOR KIDS!.. People need to get over themselves. the EU is DEAD the only way you are going to get an EU ship into X-Wing now is if it's brought back into Rebels.... ala the YT-2400...

Or... you know, it's in a movie.

True, we've the anthology films coming and then the rest of the new trilogy..

Or in the new EU, whch is growing pretty rapidly.

Or in the new EU, whch is growing pretty rapidly.

There is no EU now.. Only Canon!

Or in the new EU, whch is growing pretty rapidly.

There is no EU now.. Only Canon!

Erm, EU is a term describing stuff appearing in other forms of media than the original. For Star Wars everything non-movie is EU. If the EU of a fandom is canon or not is a different matter.

Btw: The Sheathipede Shuttle was in Episode I and III.

People acting like star wars is for super serious turbo adults only is pathetic.

Get way over yourself.

The animation isn't what makes it for children. The production is what clearly identifies it as a show targeted for children. There is a big difference between a target audience and an audience as a whole. If it had an adult male target audience, those commercials between segments would look a lot different. So, yes, the show is a show for children. That doesn't mean that they are the only ones who ever watch it, or the only ones who enjoy it. But they are the ones the show is created, written, and directed towards. Luckily, Disney is smart enough, much like many of their popular children's films, to throw in a bone or two for the adult audience, because they are smart enough to do the math and realize every kid has a parent. And in this case, the parent often isn't just watching because they have to be there with their kid, but also because they love the Star Wars universe as well!

If you can go ahead and re-read what I wrote, I don't state in a single portion that you cannot enjoy a show which has a target audience of children (lets say ages 6-15 for this specific series). I enjoy the show myself and find it has enough depth to keep me interested, while in a rare while there will be an episode I end up rolling my eyes at a bit and end up skimming through. Some others find it wholly unwatchable and see it as too "kiddy" (for the lack of a better term) for their taste.

And the only entity that has a say as to what is Star Wars and what is not is the Walt Disney Company. And any Star Wars fan is just along for the ride, even if they wish to entirely reject what they are doing.

I see no issue with someone longing for the identity of the Star Wars universe to remain crisp and largely in unison with the original trilogy with little representation outside of that. For many, that is Star Wars. But that boat sailed years ago for this game. Yet the heavy inclusion of Rebels content in X-wing, I hope you can understand, can be pretty jarring for these, let's call them, "purists". It seems to be flooding the game and one could argue it is more an identity of the game than the original trilogy now. Whether or not their hope for the game is/was realistic is beside the point. They don't like the direction the game has gone, and that's that. There is no reason for anyone to be offended here. Someone is not seeing what they want, so they don't play it any more. It's as simple as that.

Now, as someone who just got through a binge of Seasons 1 & 2 of Rebels, I have to say that Kdubb has a point. I friggin love Rebels now, and actually think its a better story than the OT (heresy!). The ending of Season 2, which barring the appearance of a particular character which has bothered many, was amazing. There are many themes running through Rebels which are obviously directed at a mature audience, not to mention people getting blown up, sliced in twain, etc., but...

...without a doubt, Disney is marketing the show towards children. I have been deluged with so many commercials directed towards kids/tweens that I almost went mad. May have, still determining. All time included thanks to Comcast On-Demand not allowing fast-forwarding through commercials, I watched what has to have been several hours worth of commercials, and nothing directed towards a mature audience.

Disney doesn't believe adults are watching it enough to bother with them.

Now, Fantasy Flight Games recommends X-Wing for a 14+ age bracket. So, it is actually targeting an older audience than Disney is with Rebels, and looking at tournament turnouts, its player-base is different. That's ok, nothing says that X-Wing needs to target all potential Star Wars fans. I mean, plenty of people don't like table-top war-gaming.

In any case, Disney is the ones in charge of the storyline now, and I honestly think that Rebels is going to be a big source of future content for the SW universe, as there is probably a few more seasons of stuff to come. So, people better buck-up and accept that a "kids show" is directing the history of conflict between the Rebellion and the Empire prior to A New Hope.

Well, barring Rogue One, and the Han Solo movie that is in the works. We've already seen a couple things from Rogue One, and while I don't think we'll get a 3rd Falcon, there will likely be more ships from the Han Solo origin movie.

There is no EU now.. Only Canon!

Erm, EU is a term describing stuff appearing in other forms of media than the original. For Star Wars everything non-movie is EU. If the EU of a fandom is canon or not is a different matter.

Actually, I think with Disney, they announced a whole change in what things are called. EU is now called Legends. So, there technically isn't EU anymore in the official terms. Anything that comes out from any source now is just canon.

Or in the new EU, whch is growing pretty rapidly.

There is no EU now.. Only Canon!

Erm, EU is a term describing stuff appearing in other forms of media than the original. For Star Wars everything non-movie is EU. If the EU of a fandom is canon or not is a different matter.

Btw: The Sheathipede Shuttle was in Episode I and III.

No it's not. EU refers to all the old novels, games etc. It was a mess, there were some brilliant things out there but it was hugely messy. Now you have Canon and Legends (Formerly EU).

something from Legends only becomes canon if it appears in any of the canon material.

OK, back on topic: I disagree that the ship Chopper is riding in is the 'new' shuttle (which has been debated on other threads and nobody agrees what it is).

The colors and shapes do not match (rust and white/smooth and angular) and Chopper seems to be on the side, at the aft- and when you pause or slow down the footage and all I see on the shuttle is a rectangle vent that is somewhat near the aft.

The only conclusion I came up with(not a good one): it's a Y-wing and Chopper just ejected the cockpit module... of course, dropping the engines on some storm troopers. He seems pretty happy in the shot.

edit: I still think it looks like a new, unseen ship.

I'm pretty sure it's the ship we see docked in the Ghost later, at 2:10, when the Star Destroyer jumps in. Because I'm 99% sure that ship is not the Phantom. https://youtu.be/xmXp802sFgQ?t=2m9s

Isn't that a YT-2400? Time to get Dash Rendar back into canon?

The animation isn't what makes it for children. The production is what clearly identifies it as a show targeted for children. There is a big difference between a target audience and an audience as a whole. If it had an adult male target audience, those commercials between segments would look a lot different. So, yes, the show is a show for children. That doesn't mean that they are the only ones who ever watch it, or the only ones who enjoy it. But they are the ones the show is created, written, and directed towards. Luckily, Disney is smart enough, much like many of their popular children's films, to throw in a bone or two for the adult audience, because they are smart enough to do the math and realize every kid has a parent. And in this case, the parent often isn't just watching because they have to be there with their kid, but also because they love the Star Wars universe as well!

If you can go ahead and re-read what I wrote, I don't state in a single portion that you cannot enjoy a show which has a target audience of children (lets say ages 6-15 for this specific series). I enjoy the show myself and find it has enough depth to keep me interested, while in a rare while there will be an episode I end up rolling my eyes at a bit and end up skimming through. Some others find it wholly unwatchable and see it as too "kiddy" (for the lack of a better term) for their taste.

And the only entity that has a say as to what is Star Wars and what is not is the Walt Disney Company. And any Star Wars fan is just along for the ride, even if they wish to entirely reject what they are doing.

Now, as someone who just got through a binge of Seasons 1 & 2 of Rebels, I have to say that Kdubb has a point. I friggin love Rebels now, and actually think its a better story than the OT (heresy!). The ending of Season 2, which barring the appearance of a particular character which has bothered many, was amazing. There are many themes running through Rebels which are obviously directed at a mature audience, not to mention people getting blown up, sliced in twain, etc., but...

Agreed. I just binged watched Seasons 1+2 to get my wife up to speed, and I liked it even better the second time. The commercials are definitely for kids, but the show is adult enough.

And as far as "animation is for kids", try taking your younglings to Sausage Party.

I am always amazed how many people get hung up on the source material for the ships in the game. Prequel, OT, Rebels, EU, whatever. . .in the end, the result is a plastic model with specific rules to expand the game. Sure, I have specific ships I'd like to see, but in the end, it is all SW.

I think I read somewhere that it would not be Dash and the outrider....

Isn't that a YT-2400?

Yes.

Time to get Dash Rendar back into canon?

No.

It's already been confirmed by someone official at the show (at one of the comic-cons I think) that yes, it is a YT2400, but no, it's not Dash or his crew, nor the Outrider.

People acting like star wars is for super serious turbo adults only is pathetic.

Get way over yourself.

Psst! Let me let y'all in on a secret: Star Wars is a kids' movie.

Playing with little plastic ships is kids' stuff.

I'm ok with both of these things. Y'all should be too.

I think a lot of this 'only for kids' hate comes from people who tried to watch the pilot and saw 'Space Aladdin'.

This show has consistently improved and I couldn't be more excited about the third season.

Must be Sabine's Modified YT-2400.

FFG adds EU ships to the game:

"Eww what are these ugly ships!?"

-Example: E-wing, K-wing, Tie Punisher

FFG adds Prequel ships to the game:

"Eww what is this prequel crap, this isn't my Star Wars!"

-Example: ARC-170 (to an extent, there is more hate for other prequel ships out there)

FFG add Rebels ships to the game:

"Eww I don't want this kiddy stuff in my game!"

-Example: Ghost, Inquisitor's Tie, Fang Fighter.

Regardless of what FFG adds to the game some people will find a way to complain about something. I say lets just enjoy the game and the very well made and painted miniatures.

Yeah, I'm not gonna have much on helping figure out what kinda shuttle this is; I'm old-school and haven't watched Rebels although my nephews love it. One day I might get the time to though. Anywho, I dig some EU concepts for ships, they're just a bit too, well, clean, painted and polished for me I guess. I love the Inquisitor's TIE; haven't yet purchased anything else Rebels yet....the Shadowcaster might just be a big temptation. Maybe if the minatures designers kinda reverse engineered them to bring a bit more grit to the Rebel ships, maybe then? I say let the cannon guys be cannon, the EU guys be EU, and the ones that love 'em both bridge the gap. But you tourney honks that wanna dominate mats, seems to me you better love 'em both cause the Disney machine is going to want one of theirs to be top-dog soon enough.....I think....

Seeing that ship makes me think it's a shuttle I've seen before. Yes....I think it is a shuttle from the Clone Wars.

As for the purists that only want stuff from the original 3 movies, I get it. They can still play the game their way....but only with others that want to play the game that way, too. Just drop tournaments and such and play with a closed group. It's not that bad a thing. There is also HotAC. You don't have to drop X-wing completely. The tournament scene isn't the only aspect of the game. If someone feels that strongly about the content then they should just break off.

You're way to rational to be such a consistent forums honk man, you must be from NC too.....haha

"Eww what is this prequel crap, this isn't my Star Wars!"

-Example: ARC-170 (to an extent, there is more hate for other prequel ships out there)

If the ARC had been in Episode 1, I think there'd be a lot less hate for Prequel ships in general.

"Eww what is this prequel crap, this isn't my Star Wars!"

-Example: ARC-170 (to an extent, there is more hate for other prequel ships out there)

If the ARC had been in Episode 1, I think there'd be a lot less hate for Prequel ships in general.

It's already been confirmed by someone official at the show (at one of the comic-cons I think) that yes, it is a YT2400, but no, it's not Dash or his crew, nor the Outrider.

Ah well. . .still more excited about Thrawn, anyways.

Must be Sabine's Modified YT-2400.

Is there anything that woman doesn't fly?

She's going to end up being the most carded pilot in the X-Wing game!