I-80 (The road to Omaha)

By hothie, in X-Wing Battle Reports

He collided. Fel was naked. He knew it as soon as he flipped the dial, that he had put ryad in his own way. But it was a series of events that got Fel killed.

Colliding, me having him in arc, getting a hit and adding a crit, him blanking out, and then pulling the Direct Hit. Any one of those things goes differently and it's a different game with Fel alive.

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Not a bad game, just surprised he decided to run instead of joust. It cost him all of bossk shots, because bossk never got a shot off. Still not enthused about OL. Lots of time lost getting tl and evade back for the second run.

I look at it this way: if OL is reloading the Evade, she was shot at, which means either the enemy squad split fire or one of their shots was unmodified, which is sort of like splitting fire. This means you're two biggest hammers were ignored in favor of a 26 point ship.

Got slaughtered tonight by what could possibly be the perfect bossk dengar squad. Omega died in one shot. Vess was dead the next round. Leaving vader vs full dengar and nearly full bossk. That was apparently how most games go with that squad. And no, I'm not going to disclose it, as it is likely to go top 8 at worlds.

So, in order to even stand a chance against that squad, i have to change mine up.

I'm going to try my Bo Derek squad and see if it will stand up to other squads first.

I've played a couple nasty Something-Bossk squads. I can see Dengar-Bossk being among the nastiest of them. Honestly, Bossk can be built as one of the more vicious ships in the game and every one of my squads that I build has to have a play against him.

Vassal game last night vs Gary from the ORS podcast running a Rey and Fringer squad. I was running my Bo Derek squad of vader, OL, and Rexler all at ps10. He split his 2 ships up, so i went for the fringer. First combat round i only managed 2 or 3 damage on the fringer in exchange for 2 shields off of vader. Next round he finishes off vader. Rey was dropping minimum 4 hits all game long, which is what she does. Rey finishes off OL while rex is getting blocked by the fringer. I tried to block ps10 rey with rexler but it didn't work out. He pounds rex with a few shots, so we called it.

OL just doesn't put out damage for me. So I'm going to change it up a little and dust off one of my old ships.

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Got slaughtered tonight by what could possibly be the perfect bossk dengar squad. Omega died in one shot. Vess was dead the next round. Leaving vader vs full dengar and nearly full bossk. That was apparently how most games go with that squad. And no, I'm not going to disclose it, as it is likely to go top 8 at worlds.

So, in order to even stand a chance against that squad, i have to change mine up.

I'm going to try my Bo Derek squad and see if it will stand up to other squads first.

I'll take a crack at the composition of the Bossk Dengar squad. I have had the pleasure of losing to Bossk Dengar as well.

Bossk is easy, he has a missile with K4 Droid, Zuckuss, & 4-LOM. VI or Countermeasures counters OL to kill her in one shot. Or it's Fearless Bossk with Engine.

Dengar is tougher, but I would wager it's a Recon Spec with R4 Aggromech build. You use to add Deadeye & 2x Plasma torps, but that isn't legal anymore. Probably still has at least 1 plasma torp to up the damage.

Bossk has won some regionals, but he's a pilot that wins big, and/or dies fast. Bossk winning worlds would be the best possible outcome.

Got slaughtered tonight by what could possibly be the perfect bossk dengar squad. Omega died in one shot. Vess was dead the next round. Leaving vader vs full dengar and nearly full bossk. That was apparently how most games go with that squad. And no, I'm not going to disclose it, as it is likely to go top 8 at worlds.

So, in order to even stand a chance against that squad, i have to change mine up.

I'm going to try my Bo Derek squad and see if it will stand up to other squads first.

I'll take a crack at the composition of the Bossk Dengar squad. I have had the pleasure of losing to Bossk Dengar as well.

Bossk is easy, he has a missile with K4 Droid, Zuckuss, & 4-LOM. VI or Countermeasures counters OL to kill her in one shot. Or it's Fearless Bossk with Engine.

Dengar is tougher, but I would wager it's a Recon Spec with R4 Aggromech build. You use to add Deadeye & 2x Plasma torps, but that isn't legal anymore. Probably still has at least 1 plasma torp to up the damage.

Bossk has won some regionals, but he's a pilot that wins big, and/or dies fast. Bossk winning worlds would be the best possible outcome.

Deadeye got nerfed to small ship only. So that can't be dengar.

Wish I was going next week to see it in action based on the description.

Wish you were going, too.

Cause, news update, I'm signed up to play on Saturday. So apparently I'll be going to Worlds after all. And I decided I'm going to run what i want to run, knowing that if i face Aaron I'll lose. But that's okay. It's my squad and i like it.

... Dengar is tougher, but I would wager it's a Recon Spec with R4 Aggromech build. You use to add Deadeye & 2x Plasma torps, but that isn't legal anymore. Probably still has at least 1 plasma torp to up the damage.
Deadeye got nerfed to small ship only. So that can't be dengar.

Wish I was going next week to see it in action based on the description.

You missed the part where I said, "but that isn't legal anymore" :)

... Dengar is tougher, but I would wager it's a Recon Spec with R4 Aggromech build. You use to add Deadeye & 2x Plasma torps, but that isn't legal anymore. Probably still has at least 1 plasma torp to up the damage.

Deadeye got nerfed to small ship only. So that can't be dengar.

Wish I was going next week to see it in action based on the description.

You missed the part where I said, "but that isn't legal anymore" :)

You're right.

That'll teach for trying to post with the 3 year old all over me.

Regardless I'm hearing that it's wrecking everything. Something called Thunderdome.

Renig and Gavin from KC played bossk/tel during regional season but this is different from what I understand.

For tonight's game, I wanted to try out my new squad idea:

That's Not in Your Action Bar

Patrol Leader with Isard

2 Delta x7s

The theory is it's a lot to try and chew through, and all 3 of my ships can have an evade token, hence the name.

I played against a semi-newer player running a Norra/Jake/Nera squad. He lined up to go after the Deltas, which I think is the better play because he's not likely to kill a Delta one on one. I focused down Nera first, mainly due to being the target of opportunity. Then i went after Norra, and finally Jake. I got some key blocks in, and he had below average dice for the game, but I ended up taking 0 damage in the game. I spent 3 evade tokens, but between his poor reds and my better than average greens, he didn't hit my Deltas, and he never attacked the deci.

Others have said i should change Isard for Vader, and i probably will if i bring this to Worlds. I need to make the deci a higher priority target to pull some shots off of the Deltas.

Oicunn with Intimidation, so your X7s can hit harder as well as a point of damage outright? Just thinking of ways to make the Deci something that can't be easily ignored.

Oicunn with Intimidation, so your X7s can hit harder as well as a point of damage outright? Just thinking of ways to make the Deci something that can't be easily ignored.

I think the trouble with oicunn is how do i fly him when the defenders move first? He's going to get in the way of the defenders and vice versa. So i think kiting with a decivader is going to be the answer.

Another iteration is kenkirk with adapt, but i think if i'm going defensive deci that i would rather have the guaranteed evade of isard over the die of kenkirk. But again, a defensive deci can be ignored. Decivader, eh, not so much.

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It's hard for me to put something other than Vader on a Patrol Leader. If you did transfer from Ysanne to Vader, you'd have that spare point, and could add an Intel Agent to help the Deltas out a bit.

It's hard for me to put something other than Vader on a Patrol Leader. If you did transfer from Ysanne to Vader, you'd have that spare point, and could add an Intel Agent to help the Deltas out a bit.

I've thought a lot about that extra point, but i think the 99 bid is going to be better, so that's the way I'm leaning right now. Although an Intel agent is a good idea, too.

Two games tonight vs a Ventress Moralo squad. First game i played my finess squad of Rexler, OL, and Bren. I was happy with the way i flew it. I tried to get cute (read:stupid) in the endgame, and he rightly made me pay for it by winning. I killed Moralo, although much later than expected. And i got Ventress down to 4 hull left with roughly 11 minutes left. So had i not gotten cute i think i could have pulled it off.

Second game i played my beefcake squad of 2 Deltas and Deci. I managed to take out Ventress second combat round, then finished off Moralo about 6 turns later, only losing one Delta. Lots of fear from the others seeing that squad on the table, so i may work on it some more.

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two vassal games tonight with beefcake. First game was against a dengar moralo squad. Second combat round he parked dengar on a rock while i beat on moralo. Then i blocked dengar onto the same rock again, so another round of no shots from dengar while i finished off moralo. Then it was just a matter of focusing down dengar. We had the interaction of vader vs dengar's ability, which dengar pulled a blinded pilot, so that was interesting trying to work through all of that. In the end i lost the deci but finished off dengar for the win.

Second game was against a dengar ventress squad. First combat round he parked ventress on a rock. I put a damaged cockpit on her with vader and got her down to 2 hull left with the deltas. Next round vader force chokes ventress (very thematic, anakin choking ventress to death) with the direct hit to finish her. Then i chased down dengar for the win.

I'm not sure how it holds up to palp defenders, but it has handled 2 large ship scum so far.

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Got slaughtered tonight by what could possibly be the perfect bossk dengar squad. Omega died in one shot. Vess was dead the next round. Leaving vader vs full dengar and nearly full bossk. That was apparently how most games go with that squad. And no, I'm not going to disclose it, as it is likely to go top 8 at worlds.

So, in order to even stand a chance against that squad, i have to change mine up.

I'm going to try my Bo Derek squad and see if it will stand up to other squads first.

Hi, have enjoyed reading your posts, thanks! Any chance you could tell us what this perfect bossk dengar build was now worlds is over? Thanks!

Although there are variations based on who is flying it, here are the basics from what i remember:

Dengar with crack shot, k4, unhinged, plasma torp, guidance chips

Bossk with vet instincts, k4, zuckuss, 4lom, homing missile, guidance chips

I don't remember what the mods or illicits were, if any, but that alpha is all but guaranteed to kill something.

Although there are variations based on who is flying it, here are the basics from what i remember:

Dengar with crack shot, k4, unhinged, plasma torp, guidance chips

Bossk with vet instincts, k4, zuckuss, 4lom, homing missile, guidance chips

I don't remember what the mods or illicits were, if any, but that alpha is all but guaranteed to kill something.

Punishing one on dengar.

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