This is a three-part prompt:

1) True or False : When a ship equipped with Lone Wolf is attacked by a ship with Zuckuss crew, Zuckuss crew is resolved before Lone Wolf is resolved.

2) True of False : A die re-rolled as a result of the Zuckuss crew effect cannot be rolled again by way of Lone Wolf (or any other card effect).

3) As a follow-up conversation : What have you found to be effective mitigation tools against Zuckuss crew?

Obvious option - use ships that don't use green dice - is obvious.

1) True

2) True

3) Boba Fett Crew Alternatively, I believe Omega Leader wouldn't have his defense dice modified, assuming he has a TL of course.

1: True

2: True

3: Be Omega Leader (without getting Countermeasured >.<). Shoot Zuckuss First. Have Hit Points. Have Evade Tokens. Have Palp. Have BMSTs. Have Latts Crew. Etc.

Thanks for the quick replies.

I'm happy to see a suggested counter that is not Scum & Villiany.

C3P0 will work too. Just guess after you've been zuccussed

C3P0 will work too. Just guess after you've been zuccussed

We got clarification from Frank that this is, in fact, not the way C-3PO operates. He cannot be triggered, you cannot guess, on re-rolls.

I suspect you will see this mentioned specifically in the next FAQ.

Have Hit Points. Have Evade Tokens. Have Palp.

Let it be known that TIE Defenders can cover all three of these.

Have Hit Points. Have Evade Tokens. Have Palp.

Let it be known that TIE Defenders can cover all three of these.

Alright then.

Build me the best Defender for 36 or 37 points. Needs to be able to hold it's own against everything as it will fight alone beside a Decimator. Has to be better than Vader.

Too easy:

Countess Ryad + PTL + MK II engines + X7 Title = 36 points of amazing

Have Hit Points. Have Evade Tokens. Have Palp.

Let it be known that TIE Defenders can cover all three of these.

Alright then.

Build me the best Defender for 36 or 37 points. Needs to be able to hold it's own against everything as it will fight alone beside a Decimator. Has to be better than Vader.

Have Hit Points. Have Evade Tokens. Have Palp.

Let it be known that TIE Defenders can cover all three of these.

Alright then.

Build me the best Defender for 36 or 37 points. Needs to be able to hold it's own against everything as it will fight alone beside a Decimator. Has to be better than Vader.

Wow, so many options. Mace's Countess is of course amazing, but if you're going to fly alongside a Deci, I prefer Lone Wolf for the insane actionless defensive strength. Then you just pick your preferred named pilot - Countess for movement options, or Maarek or Rexlar for PS.

C3P0 will work too. Just guess after you've been zuccussed

We got clarification from Frank that this is, in fact, not the way C-3PO operates. He cannot be triggered, you cannot guess, on re-rolls.

I suspect you will see this mentioned specifically in the next FAQ.

I would note that Frank has been overruled via FAQ before. See: Gonk

C3P0 will work too. Just guess after you've been zuccussed

We got clarification from Frank that this is, in fact, not the way C-3PO operates. He cannot be triggered, you cannot guess, on re-rolls.

I suspect you will see this mentioned specifically in the next FAQ.

I would note that Frank has been overruled via FAQ before. See: Gonk

While that may be the case in a few overturned instances, this is not one of them.

3PO triggers BEFORE you "roll" defence dice. I specifically noted "roll" as such because Roll=/= Reroll, and because they are 2 distinctly different things 3PO can never trigger from a Re-roll.

3PO is fully resolved prior to getting to the modify dice step, and as adding an "evade result" to the die roll is now clearly defined as adding another die to the table with the evade symbol showing, Zuckuss can happily make you "Re-roll" it.

C3P0 will work too. Just guess after you've been zuccussed

We got clarification from Frank that this is, in fact, not the way C-3PO operates. He cannot be triggered, you cannot guess, on re-rolls.

I suspect you will see this mentioned specifically in the next FAQ.

I would note that Frank has been overruled via FAQ before. See: Gonk

While that may be the case in a few overturned instances, this is not one of them.

3PO triggers BEFORE you "roll" defence dice. I specifically noted "roll" as such because Roll=/= Reroll, and because they are 2 distinctly different things 3PO can never trigger from a Re-roll.

3PO is fully resolved prior to getting to the modify dice step, and as adding an "evade result" to the die roll is now clearly defined as adding another die to the table with the evade symbol showing, Zuckuss can happily make you "Re-roll" it.

That would be the case if that is what the C3P0 card said, the only requirements are, "Once per round, before you roll any defense dice"

Does roll mean reroll or literally having dice in your hand that you are rolling? very unclear. But seriously, Zuccuss was the worst costed card for this game. Hopefully BMST just pushes him straight out of the meta.

C3P0 will work too. Just guess after you've been zuccussed

We got clarification from Frank that this is, in fact, not the way C-3PO operates. He cannot be triggered, you cannot guess, on re-rolls.

I suspect you will see this mentioned specifically in the next FAQ.

I would note that Frank has been overruled via FAQ before. See: Gonk

While that may be the case in a few overturned instances, this is not one of them.

3PO triggers BEFORE you "roll" defence dice. I specifically noted "roll" as such because Roll=/= Reroll, and because they are 2 distinctly different things 3PO can never trigger from a Re-roll.

3PO is fully resolved prior to getting to the modify dice step, and as adding an "evade result" to the die roll is now clearly defined as adding another die to the table with the evade symbol showing, Zuckuss can happily make you "Re-roll" it.

That would be the case if that is what the C3P0 card said, the only requirements are, "Once per round, before you roll any defense dice"

Does roll mean reroll or literally having dice in your hand that you are rolling? very unclear. But seriously, Zuccuss was the worst costed card for this game. Hopefully BMST just pushes him straight out of the meta.

Rolling and re-rolling are considered two, separate mechanics - I don't see Frank being wrong on this one, unless FFG wants to give Rebels something (almost nothing) to fight Zuckuss with.

Agreed. Zuckuss is broken (because of cost). If you don't agree with that then you have no concept of balanced game mechanics.

Agreed. Zuckuss is broken (because of cost). If you don't agree with that then you have no concept of balanced game mechanics.

Zuckuss is broken because of ships that don't care that they're stressed because they still get a bunch of dice mods.

Too easy:

Countess Ryad + PTL + MK II engines + X7 Title = 36 points of amazing

I actually went to my last tournament with Manaroo, a Scout with Zuckuss and Drea with R4-B11 and I ate X7 Ryad for breakfast. The X7 Title doesn't save Ryad from Zuckuss, it just stems the bleeding a bit.

to be fair, the list ate everything for breakfast. On each match I killed a ship on the first encounter. Once even an Aggressor and once 3(!) Sienar Test Pilots in one round of shooting. Zuckuss is a monster...

Let's not talk too much about how broken Zuckuss is or I'll start another one of these threads ...

Grats, by the way, on using a broken game mechanic to win (jk)

Too easy:

Countess Ryad + PTL + MK II engines + X7 Title = 36 points of amazing

I actually went to my last tournament with Manaroo, a Scout with Zuckuss and Drea with R4-B11 and I ate X7 Ryad for breakfast. The X7 Title doesn't save Ryad from Zuckuss, it just stems the bleeding a bit.

to be fair, the list ate everything for breakfast. On each match I killed a ship on the first encounter. Once even an Aggressor and once 3(!) Sienar Test Pilots in one round of shooting. Zuckuss is a monster...

Zuckuss increases the chance to roll blank from 37.5% to 61% and does not prevent autothruster magic. That's basically a damage increase of ~23.5%, modified by other factors like amount of agility dice and attack dice and your avaible modifications. But in general it is doing less than a focus/TL, but more than the if combined with TL or Focus against the TL/Focus combo. So it really has a limited use case to ships who can utilize him right … now the price point is might be to low, PTL is three points, zuckuss just one.

Manroo or Palp still imho more broken than just zuckuss, but he runs very well with Manaroo and Lonewolf together to negate his activation cost nearly completely. Predator + Zuckuss might be another candidate for a strong combo.

You mean Dengar crew instead of Predator right?

You mean Dengar crew instead of Predator right?

It's kinda hard to take Dengar crew on Dengar

C3P0 will work too. Just guess after you've been zuccussed

We got clarification from Frank that this is, in fact, not the way C-3PO operates. He cannot be triggered, you cannot guess, on re-rolls.

I suspect you will see this mentioned specifically in the next FAQ.

So can C3PO be used at all when being attacked by a ship equipped with Zuckuss?

Say you roll one evade dice, guess zero and roll an eyeball. Threepio gives you an evade result. Your opponent tells you to reroll the die. Does the result added by Threepio still stand?

You mean Dengar crew instead of Predator right?

It's kinda hard to take Dengar crew on Dengar

Okay, guess we'll insert that assumption... lol

C3P0 will work too. Just guess after you've been zuccussed

We got clarification from Frank that this is, in fact, not the way C-3PO operates. He cannot be triggered, you cannot guess, on re-rolls.

I suspect you will see this mentioned specifically in the next FAQ.

So can C3PO be used at all when being attacked by a ship equipped with Zuckuss?

Say you roll one evade dice, guess zero and roll an eyeball. Threepio gives you an evade result. Your opponent tells you to reroll the die. Does the result added by Threepio still stand?

Yes - on the initial roll of your defense die/dice, you may guess a number of results per C-3PO. If you are correct in your guess, Zuckuss can make you re-roll all evade results (including the added C-3PO result). So, in your example:

Agility: 1

C-3PO guess: 0

Result: Focus

Defense die pool: Focus, Evade

Zuckuss: Re-roll both.

Re-roll results: Blank, blank

You die.

When in doubt, assume Zuckuss is OP and broken.

You mean Dengar crew instead of Predator right?

It's kinda hard to take Dengar crew on Dengar

Okay, guess we'll insert that assumption... lol

C3P0 will work too. Just guess after you've been zuccussed

We got clarification from Frank that this is, in fact, not the way C-3PO operates. He cannot be triggered, you cannot guess, on re-rolls.

I suspect you will see this mentioned specifically in the next FAQ.

So can C3PO be used at all when being attacked by a ship equipped with Zuckuss?

Say you roll one evade dice, guess zero and roll an eyeball. Threepio gives you an evade result. Your opponent tells you to reroll the die. Does the result added by Threepio still stand?

Yes - on the initial roll of your defense die/dice, you may guess a number of results per C-3PO. If you are correct in your guess, Zuckuss can make you re-roll all evade results (including the added C-3PO result). So, in your example:

Agility: 1

C-3PO guess: 0

Result: Focus

Defense die pool: Focus, Evade

Zuckuss: Re-roll both.

Re-roll results: Blank, blank

You die.

When in doubt, assume Zuckuss is OP and broken.

Zuckuss IS OP and broken.

But then, C3PO is closing in on that for 1-AGI ships too, so meh.

I don't hate on Zuckuss for screwing with fat turrets.

If only Zuckuss wasn't put on fat turrets, then you'd have a point...