Just wait until we get Poe in an SF (with a new pilot ability about that changes blanks instead of focuses), then Finn will have another perfect home.

For now I can only see him being used on Rey.

I wonder how many points Finn would be worth if he were "eyeballs" instead of "blanks"? More than 5, I think.

I'm at least going to try a Ghost with Finn and Rey crew together with FCS.

Six dice at range one sounds all kinds of nasty.

I also think Finn might be pretty good on Resistance Han with LW, in large part because you can easily control pointing at your enemy for a good chunk of the game.

6 dice IF you already have shot them to have FCS and successfully reroll finn's blank into a hit. It's 5 modified dice and 1 unmodified basically.

And LW is a terrible choice (offensively) at least to rely on for finn. A single blank from the original roll and finn does nothing. And a falcon without the new title will have plenty of trouble keeping enemies in arc (unless you k-turn, and thus have no way to TL outside of LW).

I wonder how many points Finn would be worth if he were "eyeballs" instead of "blanks"? More than 5, I think.

9-12 maybe. He'd effectively be +1 attack and agility in a joust as long as you had a focus. That's based on the costs of palp, punishing one, and expose+EI, and hlc.

You know, the funny thing is that however crappy / useless / overpriced / niche / (pick your own adjective) Finn is, he's still going to see more play time than Luke Skywalker (whether crew member or pilot).

Luke.

Freaking.

Skywalker.

Le sigh.

I think an FAQ will be clearing up re-rolls and results from re-rolls and dice.

I am not sure what you mean here. You can only re roll a die once, but you can mod a die as many times as you possibly can. I think Finn is a good crew member, Giving Rey or any Falcon 5 die at range 1 is nothing to be sneezed at. People compare him to Palp, but we all know Palp is OP AF without having any range restrictions, well any restrictions for that matter. Palp is easy mode in a lot of people opinion. I hope they do "FAQ" Palp to be range X so that people dont just park the shuttle and let him do what ever he wants.

Just wait until we get Poe in an SF (with a new pilot ability about that changes blanks instead of focuses), then Finn will have another perfect home.

For now I can only see him being used on Rey.

If this happens I am giving up the game... I hate the idea of ships becoming a thing in other factions because it was piloted once by someone.

OK I wont give up the game but it will **** me off a great deal. There will be so many cross faction pilots it will be stupid.

Just wait until we get Poe in an SF (with a new pilot ability about that changes blanks instead of focuses), then Finn will have another perfect home.

For now I can only see him being used on Rey.

If this happens I am giving up the game... I hate the idea of ships becoming a thing in other factions because it was piloted once by someone.

OK I wont give up the game but it will **** me off a great deal. There will be so many cross faction pilots it will be stupid.

You know, the funny thing is that however crappy / useless / overpriced / niche / (pick your own adjective) Finn is, he's still going to see more play time than Luke Skywalker (whether crew member or pilot).

Luke.

Freaking.

Skywalker.

Le sigh.

This is true, and sadly, we probably won't see another Luke until the EPVIII wave comes out in over a years time.

You know, the funny thing is that however crappy / useless / overpriced / niche / (pick your own adjective) Finn is, he's still going to see more play time than Luke Skywalker (whether crew member or pilot).

Luke.

Freaking.

Skywalker.

Le sigh.

Well you can blame Gunner for that. Even in wave 2 Luke was a first class ticket, but you normally had to ride economy with Gunner. Some of that was do to the "plastic beats paper" meta we had then.

I'm at least going to try a Ghost with Finn and Rey crew together with FCS.

Six dice at range one sounds all kinds of nasty.

I also think Finn might be pretty good on Resistance Han with LW, in large part because you can easily control pointing at your enemy for a good chunk of the game.

6 dice IF you already have shot them to have FCS and successfully reroll finn's blank into a hit. It's 5 modified dice and 1 unmodified basically.

And LW is a terrible choice (offensively) at least to rely on for finn. A single blank from the original roll and finn does nothing. And a falcon without the new title will have plenty of trouble keeping enemies in arc (unless you k-turn, and thus have no way to TL outside of LW).

No ****, cards have limitations, news at 11.

Yeah I get it, it might not be super awesomely competitive. I don't get why you're coming down so negatively. He's a card that makes good better rather than worse more tolerable. I merely stated a few non-Rey builds I was at least going to try before declaring they were complete hogwash.

Because if there's one thing I've learned about this game it's that pre-release theorycrafting never survives contact with real games.

Just wait until we get Poe in an SF (with a new pilot ability about that changes blanks instead of focuses), then Finn will have another perfect home.

For now I can only see him being used on Rey.

If this happens I am giving up the game... I hate the idea of ships becoming a thing in other factions because it was piloted once by someone.

OK I wont give up the game but it will **** me off a great deal. There will be so many cross faction pilots it will be stupid.

They may as well give it rebels it's not a tie fighter it's a crappier t-70.

Just wait until we get Poe in an SF (with a new pilot ability about that changes blanks instead of focuses), then Finn will have another perfect home.

For now I can only see him being used on Rey.

If this happens I am giving up the game... I hate the idea of ships becoming a thing in other factions because it was piloted once by someone.

OK I wont give up the game but it will **** me off a great deal. There will be so many cross faction pilots it will be stupid.

Bad news is that it has already begun with Sabine's TIE.

You mean Most Wanted, surely?

Sabine's TIE has more airtime than the Fang Fighter (two episodes as opposed to one), is a good thematic match for the scrappy Rebel Alliance, the Rebels still have it somewhere and the devs figured they could do something interesting with it. The stolen TIE/sf is stolen, shoots some turrets, gets hit by a rocket and crashes into a sand dune. That's it. That's not a basis to release it for the Rebels.

Just to defuse the TIE/sf nonsense, it doesn't have a crew slot. Don't know why people are getting so mad.

Considering even the cards detractors agree it's a nice option on Rey I don't really see what we're arguing about here.

[...] The same argument was made for the punishing one title. It is probably too cheap for Dengar's ability, but costing it any more would mean the other pilots would never, ever see it.

[...]

For me? That would be okay. At least it would be more thematic. Anyone else can fly the Punishing one, it just isn't as 'cost' efficient.

I wonder how many points Finn would be worth if he were "eyeballs" instead of "blanks"? More than 5, I think.

9-12 maybe. He'd effectively be +1 attack and agility in a joust as long as you had a focus. That's based on the costs of palp, punishing one, and expose+EI, and hlc.

Casual reminder that focus and target locks each net about the same bonus to your offensive output. So if 5 is too expensive for Finn as is, 9-12 is a crime.

Just to defuse the TIE/sf nonsense, it doesn't have a crew slot. Don't know why people are getting so mad.

Sabine masterpiece, baby!

Also tech to make Finn not worthless !

I wonder how many points Finn would be worth if he were "eyeballs" instead of "blanks"? More than 5, I think.

9-12 maybe. He'd effectively be +1 attack and agility in a joust as long as you had a focus. That's based on the costs of palp, punishing one, and expose+EI, and hlc.

Casual reminder that focus and target locks each net about the same bonus to your offensive output. So if 5 is too expensive for Finn as is, 9-12 is a crime.

No, the crime would be smuggling compartment glitterstim and Finn. Straight up evading an evade to every attack for a turn? A defensive eyeball is way way way too good. An offensive eyeball could still be worth eight or more, ignoring defense completely.

i feel like that scum team was horribly built.

Surely theres a better team to build than that....

I wonder how many points Finn would be worth if he were "eyeballs" instead of "blanks"? More than 5, I think.

9-12 maybe. He'd effectively be +1 attack and agility in a joust as long as you had a focus. That's based on the costs of palp, punishing one, and expose+EI, and hlc.

Casual reminder that focus and target locks each net about the same bonus to your offensive output. So if 5 is too expensive for Finn as is, 9-12 is a crime.

What? No. If Finn added a focus result instead of a blank, he's giving a GUARANTEED result if you have a focus token, which is way easier to manage. It's basically half a step below adding a straight up hit. Finn adding a blank means you have to have a target lock for a 50% chance of getting an extra hit, or 75% if you have a focus token. And if you're using predator/lone wolf for rerolls, his ability is ONLY useful if you roll no blank results. Otherwise he gave you nothing. This is why people are saying Rey is really the only good carrier for Finn. She's the only one at this point in time that can make full use of Finn's ability. Others pay out the nose for an ability they can only access half of (the attack part), excluding lone wolf users, who can reroll Finn's blank, assuming you rolled no blanks.

I'm at least going to try a Ghost with Finn and Rey crew together with FCS.

Six dice at range one sounds all kinds of nasty.

I also think Finn might be pretty good on Resistance Han with LW, in large part because you can easily control pointing at your enemy for a good chunk of the game.

6 dice IF you already have shot them to have FCS

ah yes, the secret "You cannot take Target Locks normally" text on FCS.

I wonder how many points Finn would be worth if he were "eyeballs" instead of "blanks"? More than 5, I think.

9-12 maybe. He'd effectively be +1 attack and agility in a joust as long as you had a focus. That's based on the costs of palp, punishing one, and expose+EI, and hlc.

Casual reminder that focus and target locks each net about the same bonus to your offensive output. So if 5 is too expensive for Finn as is, 9-12 is a crime.

While it's true that a TL & Focus give the same odds when you roll a die, an auto-focus-result Finn doesn't require a roll, just that you have a focus token, so the odds are no longer a factor. In addition, there are numerous ways to get a free focus token in the game, especially for the Rebels.

I wonder how many points Finn would be worth if he were "eyeballs" instead of "blanks"? More than 5, I think.

9-12 maybe. He'd effectively be +1 attack and agility in a joust as long as you had a focus. That's based on the costs of palp, punishing one, and expose+EI, and hlc.

Casual reminder that focus and target locks each net about the same bonus to your offensive output. So if 5 is too expensive for Finn as is, 9-12 is a crime.

While it's true that a TL & Focus give the same odds when you roll a die, an auto-focus-result Finn doesn't require a roll, just that you have a focus token, so the odds are no longer a factor. In addition, there are numerous ways to get a free focus token in the game, especially for the Rebels.

less than you'd imagine, really

what makes Rey crew pretty exciting is she's basically the only way to get a free focus mod in an efficient, self sufficient manner (re: without kyle/garven/esege jank)

otherwise, all you really have is Ezra crew when stressed

but yeah, if Finn gave out focus results he'd be outstanding. Would definitely fly him in an ARC then

Finn is pretty much autotake on Rey. That much is obvious (one could say hes autotake on Rebel Han too).

The complaint is unless its those two pilots you HAVE to pay even more points on an already expensive card to get any use out of it. Lot of people, including me, really dont like it when an upgrade card isnt specified its for one ship but it basically cannot work at all except on that ship.

On any other ship you are looking at minimum 7pts to use finn, utilizing Lone Wolf to reroll his blank. There might be a random pilot im not thinking of with a crew that can reroll a blank but none come to mind.

if Finn gave a focus result he would be seen a LOT. Not sure if that is balanced at 5pts though to basically increase your primary weapon by 1 if you had an action or Rey Crew that turn.