Finn is very good. People complaining haven't really tried him yet, I think. He's very strong.

Finn is pretty much autotake on Rey. That much is obvious (one could say hes autotake on Rebel Han too).

The complaint is unless its those two pilots you HAVE to pay even more points on an already expensive card to get any use out of it. Lot of people, including me, really dont like it when an upgrade card isnt specified its for one ship but it basically cannot work at all except on that ship.

On any other ship you are looking at minimum 7pts to use finn, utilizing Lone Wolf to reroll his blank. There might be a random pilot im not thinking of with a crew that can reroll a blank but none come to mind.

if Finn gave a focus result he would be seen a LOT. Not sure if that is balanced at 5pts though to basically increase your primary weapon by 1 if you had an action or Rey Crew that turn.

THat's understandable, but we don't know if there'll be more pilot/ships that he works just as well with.

Currently,vthere aren't

And that is, currently, disappointing

Really hoping for another defensive re-roll card (pilot or upgrade) that works with Finn. Only Rey and Lone Wolf is what makes me sad.

fingers crossed for the other unspoiled cards in Hotr

the ultimate troll irony would be if FFG gave blank re-rolls to one of the T-70 pilots (no crew for you!)

but it'd still be a good ability, so I'd be happy

I wonder how many points Finn would be worth if he were "eyeballs" instead of "blanks"? More than 5, I think.

9-12 maybe. He'd effectively be +1 attack and agility in a joust as long as you had a focus. That's based on the costs of palp, punishing one, and expose+EI, and hlc.

Casual reminder that focus and target locks each net about the same bonus to your offensive output. So if 5 is too expensive for Finn as is, 9-12 is a crime.

Point cost debate aside your casual reminder doesn't apply to this situation.

Surely you see the difference between adding a focus (which you can guarantee is a hit if you have a focus) vs a blank (which is only a 50% chance at a hit with a re-roll).

Currently,vthere aren't

And that is, currently, disappointing

U-Wing will be nice, hopefully if it has a "decent dial" aka white 2-Hard Turn

Cassian Andor (43)

U-Wing (27), Predator (2), Fire-Control System (2), Finn (5), Han Solo (2), Pivot Wing (0), Engine Upgrade (4)

All action-less updrades. FCS acts like your offensive focus thanks to Han. Predator to get that Finn re-roll. That leaves you with either a focus for your action for defense, or boost.

4/2/4/4 boosting large ship. Not bad.

Could also go Lone Wolf for a point cheaper, doesnt gel with Cassian's ability though, so hopefully another UWing pilot has an EPT and a loner ability. The you will have a 4/3/4/4 boosting large ship.

Or toss Rey as second crew to stock pile focus tokens. Use FCS to reroll. That leaves your EPT slot open for maybe Expert Handling, Opportunist, or Daredevil:

Cassian Andor (43)

U-Wing (27), Daredevil (3), Fire-Control System (2), Finn (5), Rey (2), Pivot Wing (0), Engine Upgrade (4)

my only complaint about FCS is it doesnt help your initial strike, and often large ships fly by or bump their target after the initial strike.

my only complaint about FCS is it doesnt help your initial strike, and often large ships fly by or bump their target after the initial strike.

Fcs also does jack diddly **** for finn's defensive bonus

I wonder how many points Finn would be worth if he were "eyeballs" instead of "blanks"? More than 5, I think.

9-12 maybe. He'd effectively be +1 attack and agility in a joust as long as you had a focus. That's based on the costs of palp, punishing one, and expose+EI, and hlc.

That sounds about right. I would have hit "like", but I ran out.

Sabine's TIE has more airtime than the Fang Fighter (two episodes as opposed to one), is a good thematic match for the scrappy Rebel Alliance, the Rebels still have it somewhere and the devs figured they could do something interesting with it.

I find myself way more annoyed that Sabine is in a scum ship (the Shadow Caster) than that a single TIE is in the Rebel faction. But. I can live.

I wonder how many points Finn would be worth if he were "eyeballs" instead of "blanks"? More than 5, I think.

9-12 maybe. He'd effectively be +1 attack and agility in a joust as long as you had a focus. That's based on the costs of palp, punishing one, and expose+EI, and hlc.

Casual reminder that focus and target locks each net about the same bonus to your offensive output. So if 5 is too expensive for Finn as is, 9-12 is a crime.

But if he straight up added an extra eyeball to every in-arc attack and defense? Not converting, adding. No action required. He'd make anything with crew monstrously good.

Why the hell is anybody talking about Finn's "Defensive bonus" by the way? His card is entirely offense based.

Why the hell is anybody talking about Finn's "Defensive bonus" by the way? His card is entirely offense based.

When attacking with a primary weapon or defending, if the enemy ship is inside your firing arc, you may add 1 blank result to your roll.

Why the hell is anybody talking about Finn's "Defensive bonus" by the way? His card is entirely offense based.

When attacking with a primary weapon or defending, if the enemy ship is inside your firing arc, you may add 1 blank result to your roll.

Huh. Must have glanced over that.

Yeah Finn doesn't sound too awful on an ARC as well.

Yeah Finn doesn't sound too awful on an ARC as well.

Same old problem that none of the ARCs can natively make decent use of his ability so you have to stack further upgrades such as Lone Wolf to enable him. This is the crux of Finn's problem. 5 Points is fairly pricey but outside a few specific Pilots, you have to spend even more points before you can really make use of him.

Best use on an ARC I can think of is Thane with Biggs nearby so that he can take free TLs when people shoot at Biggs. But then you are building over 50% of your list around a trick to net you one extra attack dice. I suppose if you were going to include Biggs and an ARC anyway it is not too bad but other combos like Braelen + Stressbot + Gunner are self-sufficient, action-independent and don't run out if/when Biggs dies.

Accidental post.

Yeah Finn doesn't sound too awful on an ARC as well.

Same old problem that none of the ARCs can natively make decent use of his ability so you have to stack further upgrades such as Lone Wolf to enable him. This is the crux of Finn's problem. 5 Points is fairly pricey but outside a few specific Pilots, you have to spend even more points before you can really make use of him.

Best use on an ARC I can think of is Thane with Biggs nearby so that he can take free TLs when people shoot at Biggs. But then you are building over 50% of your list around a trick to net you one extra attack dice. I suppose if you were going to include Biggs and an ARC anyway it is not too bad but other combos like Braelen + Stressbot + Gunner are self-sufficient, action-independent and don't run out if/when Biggs dies.

it's also just not very good

the 2.5 dice (with no defensive bonus at all) out the back is just similar to a typical 3 die primary, which you are already overpaying for. The four dice out the front is okay, but this is the ARC and the front guns are used a grand total of once on the first pass before you become utterly reliant on the auxiliary arc

even when Norra gets the +1 damage through her ability, she still needs tailgunner to make it stick onto anything. Finn and Norra would be fun if Finn didn't utterly run counter to her ability

you're far better off building for stress on non-Norra ARCs. The results are guaranteed and really help the rest of your squad pull through in any match-up that isn't Dengaroo's Dengar

I was just thinking how finn might work on a K-wing with guidance chips. I wrote this great post about it, then I went back and read the card.

I think Finn will be decent on a vcx with fcs and title. Sure you aren't using the defensive bonus but those 5 or 6 die shots with fcs are going to hurt.

I was just thinking how finn might work on a K-wing with guidance chips. I wrote this great post about it, then I went back and read the card.

The reason it hasn't been mentioned is because Finn only works with primary weapon..

The video more importantly shows the importance of dice mods, the scum player modded dice like what once? twice? the whole game.....

The video more importantly shows the importance of dice mods, the scum player modded dice like what once? twice? the whole game.....

We should all know this as mitigating rng is the winnimg formula to liteeally every competitive game with rng in them, from sny dice tabletop game to every deck building game ever

The problem with the scum build, apart from ignoring the exceptionally exposed ARC, was the third ship was a crap z95 is all

Not enough points between rau and ventress to afford anything else, sadly