Tech slot on Scyk. Do it know.
Actually, a title that added the tech slot to the E-wing might help the generics, but Corran would be even tougher (and more expensive) with comm relay. Oh well.
Tech Slot on B-wing and T-65
B-wing 'fix' = B-wing only system upgrade that is better than FCS and synergizes with the crew slot.
X-wing 'fix' = ??? (They are still working on it) my favs are rogue squadron dual title adding a green die when in range one of other rogues or adding a hit/changing hit to crit when another rogue has attacked the same target in that round (maybe TL or in arc instead)).
B-wing 'fix' = Title. 0 points. B-Wing lose primary attack and gain +2 cannon slots. - 2 points cost for equipped cannons.
B-wing 'fix' = B-wing only system upgrade that is better than FCS and synergizes with the crew slot.
X-wing 'fix' = ??? (They are still working on it) my favs are rogue squadron dual title adding a green die when in range one of other rogues or adding a hit/changing hit to crit when another rogue has attacked the same target in that round (maybe TL or in arc instead)).
B-wing 'fix' = Title. 0 points. B-Wing lose primary attack and gain +2 cannon slots. - 2 points cost for equipped cannons.
Nah, the B-wing was heavily armed, so having a 3-dice primary attack fits the bill. It did come with an Ion Cannon as a standard outfit so perhaps discounting that more or less completely with a title would be a nice thing? Otherwise the background speaks of B-wings having advanced targetting systems that allowed multiple B-wings to coordinate their attacks. One potential upgrade could be systems upgrade with the following text:
Advanced Targeting Systems - X points
System Upgrade
When you aquire a target lock on an enemy ship, all other ships within range 1-2 with Advanced Targeting Systems may aquire a target lock on the same ship, ignoring range restrictions.
Combine that with a title that allows the B-wing to take that upgrade at a heavy discount. Ideally allowing four Daggers in a list with that upgrade.
Tech Slot on B-Wing and T-65 would balance those 2 ships.
A post like this usually has a case for why.
B-wing 'fix' = B-wing only system upgrade that is better than FCS and synergizes with the crew slot.
X-wing 'fix' = ??? (They are still working on it) my favs are rogue squadron dual title adding a green die when in range one of other rogues or adding a hit/changing hit to crit when another rogue has attacked the same target in that round (maybe TL or in arc instead)).
B-wing 'fix' = Title. 0 points. B-Wing lose primary attack and gain +2 cannon slots. - 2 points cost for equipped cannons.
Nah, the B-wing was heavily armed, so having a 3-dice primary attack fits the bill. It did come with an Ion Cannon as a standard outfit so perhaps discounting that more or less completely with a title would be a nice thing? Otherwise the background speaks of B-wings having advanced targetting systems that allowed multiple B-wings to coordinate their attacks. One potential upgrade could be systems upgrade with the following text:
Advanced Targeting Systems - X points
System Upgrade
When you aquire a target lock on an enemy ship, all other ships within range 1-2 with Advanced Targeting Systems may aquire a target lock on the same ship, ignoring range restrictions.
Combine that with a title that allows the B-wing to take that upgrade at a heavy discount. Ideally allowing four Daggers in a list with that upgrade.
Historically, B-Wings had no 'standard' Laser cannons - but an arsenal of specialized cannons, which would be the secondary cannon upgrades, in terms of X-Wing.
Uh, yes, they did in fact have a standard armament consisting of Laser Cannons which do explain their primary weapons value of three. The cannon slot represents part of the heavy wepaons package (apart from torpedoes) and it was normally an Ion Cannon. I don't know what your sources are but mine is:
Tech Slot on B-Wing and T-65 would balance those 2 ships.
Hey stop that, Fuzzywookiee is supposed to be the master of one line topic posts.
To be fair, at least this post is coherent and about Xwing.
Ah, that could be an interesting addition to the E-Wing.
Tech is only supposed to be Ep 7 and later. Stop trying to spread it to other eras. Let it stay in the new era.
I'd personally like to see it on the Ewing. Hmm, yes Comm Relay! And the era sort of fits for the ship.
But putting on the T-65 Xwing and Bwing doesnt make sense one bit...nor would the current Tech upgrades help at all, or even be remotely useful in most cases.
add tech slot to E wing, let it take any tech item under 4 points for free. heaven in the stars... yes please
Uh, yes, they did in fact have a standard armament consisting of Laser Cannons which do explain their primary weapons value of three. The cannon slot represents part of the heavy wepaons package (apart from torpedoes) and it was normally an Ion Cannon. I don't know what your sources are but mine is:
Seems like this article has been changed in a way to reflect the B-Wings stats in X-Wing. But well, everything is in motion recently. Luckily there is a german Wiki which is less affected by alterations.
The B-Wing/E and B-Wing/E2 standard armamant consists of:
1 Gyrhil-R-9X-Laserkanone (1 Heavy Laser Cannon)
2 Krupx-MG9Protonentorpedowerfer (je 6 Torpedos (/E); je 8 Torpedos (/E2)) (2 Torpedo Launchers)
3 ArMek-SW-7a Ionenkanonen (3 Ion Cannons)
2 Gyrhil-Zwillings-Repetierblaster (2 Autoblasters)
Source: The official Star Wars Fact File
B-Wing Standard Configuration:
1 Gyrhil-R-9X Laserkanone (HLC)
2 Krupx-MG9 Protonentorpedo-werfer (je 6 Protonentorpedos) (2 Torp launchers)
Emisson-Typ Primärer MG9 Protonentorpedowerfer am Ende des Hauptflügels (vier Torpedos)
Sekundärer MG9 Protonentorpedowerfer über den Triebwerken (additional Torp launcher)
3ArMek-SW-7a Ionenkanonen (3 Ion Cannons)
1 Gyrhil-72-Zwillings-Repetierblaster (1 Autocannon)
Source: Star Wars: Complete Vehicles
Alternate Configuration:
3 Gyrhil-R-9X Laserkanonen (3 Medium Laser Cannons)
3 ArMek-SW-7a Ionenkanonen (3 Ion Cannons)
2 Krupy-MG9-Protonentorpedowerfer (2 Torp launchers)
Source: Rebel Alliance Fleet (official Poster published by Lucasfilm)
So, the last one is the B-Wing version we have in X-Wing. But this is not the standard canonic B-Wing.
An it appeared on a poster (only?).
The entry in Wookiepedia is rubbish. A X-Wing player must have been altered this article after the B-Wing was released for X-Wing.
Uh, yes, they did in fact have a standard armament consisting of Laser Cannons which do explain their primary weapons value of three. The cannon slot represents part of the heavy wepaons package (apart from torpedoes) and it was normally an Ion Cannon. I don't know what your sources are but mine is:
There's the B-Wing fix in your link; add a crew slot for a gunner.
X-wing fix; add an astromech cancelling card that removes terminal damage....oh wait, that's already happened.
Edited by clanofwolvesadd tech slot to E wing, let it take any tech item under 4 points for free. heaven in the stars... yes pleaseAh, that could be an interesting addition to the E-Wing.I'd personally like to see it on the Ewing. Hmm, yes Comm Relay! And the era sort of fits for the ship.Tech is only supposed to be Ep 7 and later. Stop trying to spread it to other eras. Let it stay in the new era.
But putting on the T-65 Xwing and Bwing doesnt make sense one bit...nor would the current Tech upgrades help at all, or even be remotely useful in most cases.
Tech is only supposed to be Ep 7 and later. Stop trying to spread it to other eras. Let it stay in the new era.
Perhaps this is the route they are going, perhaps not. I can see them putting it on late Legends ships as well (if they ever revisit that...), or any higher tech ship. Perhaps it is more likely they will stick it on all the stuff from the new trilogy and that's it, but it's not stapled fact that that is the only place Tech slots will go.
They have stated that is the direction they are going. Listen to the interviews and read the articles.
Mind directing me to where they state that Tech slots are reserved only for Ep 7 and later material and will never be placed on any other type of ship? I'm honestly interested to know where to find that as I seem to have missed it.
Uh, yes, they did in fact have a standard armament consisting of Laser Cannons which do explain their primary weapons value of three. The cannon slot represents part of the heavy wepaons package (apart from torpedoes) and it was normally an Ion Cannon. I don't know what your sources are but mine is:
The cockpit of the B-wing houses the 'autoblasters', usually 3-5 guns. The weapons pods at the end of the folding s-foils house two of the ion cannons while the pod at the end of the wing/tail houses the third ion cannon and the heavy laser cannon. This is the configuration we saw in ROTJ and what is represented by the FFG mini. The 3 attack can represent a general attack power without taking into consideration the variety of weapons systems present.
I would love to see a title for the B-wing that allowed two more cannon slots and allowed another cannon attack after a non-primary weapon attack.
A generic R7 style droid that is E-wing only that grants a Tech slot at minus several points should do for a genericE-wing fix, that also Corran can take, but not if he wants to keep R2-D2.
So maybe we'd see different builds for Corran. Like a Juke, Comms Relay one.
Edited by GrimmyVMind directing me to where they state that Tech slots are reserved only for Ep 7 and later material and will never be placed on any other type of ship? I'm honestly interested to know where to find that as I seem to have missed it.Perhaps this is the route they are going, perhaps not. I can see them putting it on late Legends ships as well (if they ever revisit that...), or any higher tech ship. Perhaps it is more likely they will stick it on all the stuff from the new trilogy and that's it, but it's not stapled fact that that is the only place Tech slots will go.Tech is only supposed to be Ep 7 and later. Stop trying to spread it to other eras. Let it stay in the new era.
They have stated that is the direction they are going. Listen to the interviews and read the articles.
Tech slots seem like an era slot which means only for TFA factions which are the Resistance and 1stOrder. Rebel Alliance ships will have no such slots.
However some faction slots are becoming cross faction with rebels now taking the illicit slot from scum. I could see a title that gives the E-wing a Tech slot since it is supposed to be a post Alliance ship but the X-wing is a no go. You are going to come up with a better idea for a fix than that, after all it is the T-70 that killed the X-wing and giving the T-65 some of the lesser used toys will not bring it ahead of the T-70.
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...but, could you grant the slot via a title as in "Alliance Overhaul" - so bringing the 65 & B 'into' the TFA-era in a similar manner to the ARC's ? 
...but, could you grant the slot via a title as in "Alliance Overhaul" - so bringing the 65 & B 'into' the TFA-era in a similar manner to the ARC's ?
Um yes you could, but why would you want to in the case of the T-65??? The T-70 is there for that. So why spend more points on a T-65 Xwing to make it almost the T-70 (and still lack the boost and shield)?
And also the T-70 is actually old by the time of the The Force Awakens in the fluff, the New Republic of the time period is using T-85s.
I'd rather see a T-65R title or modification for the X-wing that (for example) replaces the torpedo slot with a systems slot.
Systems wouldn't be enough
You'd just get a bad SF
Tech Slot on B-Wing and T-65 would balance those 2 ships.
The B-Wing would be the worst tech carrier by far.
Weapons Guidance is useless next to FCS, Sensor Cluster is useless on 1 AGI, and Comm Relay is useless because it has no way of getting an evade token short of equipping Jan Ors, which is a 6 point investment.
The X-Wing is slightly better? But still useless compared to other options it already has.
The T-70 doesnt use Weapons Guidance so the T-65 wouldn't either, Comm Relay has no way to trigger, Sensor Cluster takes your focus token that could be used on focus results either attacking or defending, and turns 1 blank to an evade. Ok? So? Poe is the only Sensor Cluster carrier worth mentioning, because he would then be guaranteed 2 evades from his ability, sensor cluster, and autothrusters.
This has to be your worst idea thus far.
I know his posts are really, really short and probably don't merit lengthy conversation, but I don't think we need to be this hard on JimbonX. This can't be the worst idea ever - I probably topped that when I wanted a Phantom Menace core set with a Jar Jar Binks pilot card...
I think it would be an odd choice by FFG, given that B-Wings and T-65s are kind of back in time, and don't have modern tech. I also agree that tech is a very weak upgrade right now. However, I don't really think tech will be all that bad in the near future... I think that there might be a few new kinds of tech coming out in HotR and wave 10, so maybe we'll see soon if tech slots are worth anything.
So no further discussion or clarification from the OP Jimbonx? Who'd have thought this was all 1 big attention seeking exercise...
Would you poke your head back here if this was all directed at you? I certainly wouldn't. Bit of net hate happened here for an enthusiastic is misguided thought and it's best to just let it quietly die.
Uh, yes, they did in fact have a standard armament consisting of Laser Cannons which do explain their primary weapons value of three. The cannon slot represents part of the heavy wepaons package (apart from torpedoes) and it was normally an Ion Cannon. I don't know what your sources are but mine is:
Seems like this article has been changed in a way to reflect the B-Wings stats in X-Wing. But well, everything is in motion recently. Luckily there is a german Wiki which is less affected by alterations.
The B-Wing/E and B-Wing/E2 standard armamant consists of:
1 Gyrhil-R-9X-Laserkanone (1 Heavy Laser Cannon)
2 Krupx-MG9Protonentorpedowerfer (je 6 Torpedos (/E); je 8 Torpedos (/E2)) (2 Torpedo Launchers)
3 ArMek-SW-7a Ionenkanonen (3 Ion Cannons)
2 Gyrhil-Zwillings-Repetierblaster (2 Autoblasters)
Source: The official Star Wars Fact File
B-Wing Standard Configuration:
1 Gyrhil-R-9X Laserkanone (HLC)
2 Krupx-MG9 Protonentorpedo-werfer (je 6 Protonentorpedos) (2 Torp launchers)
Emisson-Typ Primärer MG9 Protonentorpedowerfer am Ende des Hauptflügels (vier Torpedos)
Sekundärer MG9 Protonentorpedowerfer über den Triebwerken (additional Torp launcher)
3ArMek-SW-7a Ionenkanonen (3 Ion Cannons)
1 Gyrhil-72-Zwillings-Repetierblaster (1 Autocannon)
Source: Star Wars: Complete Vehicles
Alternate Configuration:
3 Gyrhil-R-9X Laserkanonen (3 Medium Laser Cannons)
3 ArMek-SW-7a Ionenkanonen (3 Ion Cannons)
2 Krupy-MG9-Protonentorpedowerfer (2 Torp launchers)
Source: Rebel Alliance Fleet (official Poster published by Lucasfilm)
So, the last one is the B-Wing version we have in X-Wing. But this is not the standard canonic B-Wing.
An it appeared on a poster (only?).
The entry in Wookiepedia is rubbish. A X-Wing player must have been altered this article after the B-Wing was released for X-Wing.
I will never stop being surprised over how beautiful a language German is.
Id kill to ne able to deploy DAS KRUPY!!!