Does having kanan jarris with the new millennium falcon title create a green 3 speed s loop?

Kanan reads: once per turn After a friendly ship at range 1-2 executed a white maneuver, you may remove one stress token from that ship.

New MF title: after you execute a 3 speed bank maneuver, if you are not touching another ship and are not stressed, you may receive one stress token to rotate your ship 180 degrees.

To me, it sounds like kanan happens after the 3 bank, but before the 180 turn so the ship wouldn't get the stressed removed since it happens afterwards. A friend of mine disagrees and thinks that it turns the 3 banks essentially into green maneuvers.

Thought?

I am having a hard time pulling up the rules and faq for some reason, but I think you get to pick which effect happens first as they both have the same trigger. So, since they both happen after a maneuver you can resolve the turn them Kanan.

Sounds legit.

I agree, they both trigger at the same time, and are both under his control. Your friend is allowed to decide the order in which they happen. Although I find it quite ludicrous and hope that ffg fixes this. Then again, the Jumpmaster dial comes to mind. Perhaps the Falcon needs this buff to stay competitive lol

Kanan can trigger, yes.

Since the two triggers happen at the same time, you are able to decide the order in which they would trigger. In this case, you would trigger the title to turn 180 degrees and gain a stress, and then immediately trigger kanan after that off of the white maneuver.

You forgot to add Kyle Katarn to that.

Kanan can trigger, yes.

Since the two triggers happen at the same time, you are able to decide the order in which they would trigger. In this case, you would trigger the title to turn 180 degrees and gain a stress, and then immediately trigger kanan after that off of the white maneuver.

This would means as well that you can make this menauever when you are stressed, because you can clear the stress first and get a new one afterwards.

S'Looping YT-1300 for days! Add Kyle for bonus focus. I've been running a Kanan-Kyle Han with PTL and EU for a few weeks and it's great. Will be adding the new MF Title to the build for sure.

Kanan-Kyle-PTL are an awesome and flexible combo on the new Falcon.

Kanan-Finn-Outmaneuver is less flexible but more offensive (and expensive).

A bit of playtesting should help to sort out which one will be best. I am leaning towards the Finn build due to action redundancy. If you are taking the new Falcon title then you have no Evade so only 2 actions on your bar (3 if you take EU). You probably won't need to Target Lock that often as Rey provides built-in rerolls. So the only real combo for KK is Boost-Focus-Focus which is certainly nice but not necessarily the actions you want to perform every turn.

Kanan-Finn-Outmaneuver turns the Falcon into almost a 4/2/8/5 ship with built-in rerolls provided you keep it pointing in the right direction. Take a Focus and the rerolls should do the rest.

Just in case you didn't already have r3a2 in your rebel list

S'Looping YT-1300 for days! Add Kyle for bonus focus. I've been running a Kanan-Kyle Han with PTL and EU for a few weeks and it's great. Will be adding the new MF Title to the build for sure.

I was thinking about running Kyle and Kanan on Rey with Daredevil and EU. Go over a debris cloud? drop the stress, get a focus and then boost/focus/TL. Did an s-loop? Drop the stress, get a focus and boost/focus/TL. Did a white maneuver and want to boost into range with a focus? Do a daredevil action, drop the stress and get a focus. Her ability plus movement options will have her rerolling dice for days.

its the same ruling that Kanan has for Daredevil, Inertial Dampeners, or Lightning Reflexes.

I really wish they'd just add it in there that he works for those rather than argue about it every other week. They seem to happen at the same point to me which means you pick which goes when. FAQ only covers debris though.

Does having kanan jarris with the new millennium falcon title create a green 3 speed s loop?

First off: Greetings from the Rules subforum!

Second, although (as has been amply covered up-thread) you can indeed use Kanan to clear the stress from the new MF title, that doesn't make it a green sloop, it makes it white.

No it doesn't make it white, it IS white

And it is not a sloop, it is an optional 180 flip after executing the maneuver

Ie better in every conceivable way

It all depends on the order in which you play it.

1) You fly your "3 bank" manouver

2) You trigger the Falcon Title and rotate 180', then receive a stress

3) You flew a white manouver and are stressed, so Kanan triggers.

4) Perform actions.

You forgot to add Kyle Katarn to that.

And Daredevil (and Engine).

"Sloop" -> remove stress -> get Focus -> perform Daredevil action -> remove stress -> get Focus.

You forgot to add Kyle Katarn to that.

And Daredevil (and Engine).

"Sloop" -> remove stress -> get Focus -> perform Daredevil action -> remove stress -> get Focus.

Even if Kanan worked with Daredevil, he's once per round.

So what happens if I put Cool Hand on?

- 3 Bank

- Title kicks in to rotate 180 and assign a stress.

- Cool Hand assign an evade.

- Kanan removes the stress

- Kyle assigns a focus

- Action perform a Focus or TL.

Legal? Cool Hand is only one use, but might be slippery to use with the new version of Han.

Kanan happens in the Clean Up phase of executing a maneuver. People have used this to tell me he doesn't work with Daredevil so he also wouldn't work for this super sloop.

At least that's what I was told.

I'm too tired to argue about it anymore, I don't have either the Ghost of the new falcon son really don't care too much

Kanan happens in the Clean Up phase of executing a maneuver. People have used this to tell me he doesn't work with Daredevil so he also wouldn't work for this super sloop.

You know what, this is already better covered else where .

At least that's what I was told.

I'm too tired to argue about it anymore, I don't have either the Ghost of the new falcon son really don't care too much

You forgot to add Kyle Katarn to that.

And Daredevil (and Engine).

"Sloop" -> remove stress -> get Focus -> perform Daredevil action -> remove stress -> get Focus.

Even if Kanan worked with Daredevil, he's once per round.

A) He does (errata). 2) You're once per round.

Even if Kanan worked with Daredevil, he's once per round.

A) He does (errata).

2) You're once per round.

Bwaha! Well done.

(Although if you check the latest FAQ, you'll see that I've been ruled to happen as many times as I'm triggered.)

If you're talking about changing Daredevil's 1-turn from red to white, that doesn't address the timing issue that keeps Kanan from clearing Daredevil's stress when triggered by Daredevil's maneuver.

Same as the debate that's happening here , though, no? (Also, according to that sub-forum, you trigger quite often. )

If you're talking about changing Daredevil's 1-turn from red to white, that doesn't address the timing issue that keeps Kanan from clearing Daredevil's stress when triggered by Daredevil's maneuver.

Same as the debate that's happening here , though, no? (Also, according to that sub-forum, you trigger quite often. )