Sell me on Finn...

By Vitalis, in X-Wing

He's a big deal with the Resistance.

On a side note I love Finn as a char much more then anyone else in Force Awakens, his ark is unknown so this pilot card matches that, Lots of room to move around and end up good or bad.

Edited by Cubanboy

I'm with Fickle on this one. Offensively, he's not worth 5 points and there are few ships that can currently benefit from him defensively. Unfortunately, without the high cost he'd potentially be too strong on the ships that can really get the most out of him.

If you really want to use Finn and really want a B-Wing, it seems like Ibtisam might be worth looking at. I'm not sure what to put in her Sensor slot. FCS seems obvious but it overlaps a lot with her ability (especially if you give her Wired) but AS or Sensor Jammers might be fun. It seems either Wired or PTL might be good on her as well.

Ibtisam (28)
Finn (5)
B-Wing/E2 (1)
Total: 34
Edited by WWHSD

Ok i see the combos. The C3PO and Lone Wolf sheanigans....but 5 pts for card that does nothing on its own and needs to be comboed?? Somebody has been drinking at FFG? Unless i miss some really game breaking combo

Drinking? No, FFG just watched The Force Awakens and made Finn do exactly what he does in the movie: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! It's a brilliant design, really.

right, because Finn is even close to palp's level

Finn just screams to me as if it was overtuned in playtesting.

I really cant see taking Finn over Gunner, who also works well wih Rey. Now Finn w/ Rey would beat gunner vs low agi, but that isnt where the meta is.

Rey w/Finn+Gunner could work. You sacrifice defense and is expensive but she will hit pretty hard.

he's pretty auto-include on Rey, which is probably why we was made unusable for everyone else

LW is the only other way so far to get the defensive portion of his ability to do literally anything

unless you're fond of flight instructor <_<

Be fair, Ibitsam can technically use him, too.

... and is a terrible investment, but we're talking technicalities here, yeah? :P

Also whilst not yet in existence, if we ever see a Rebel crew-capable ship with Boost, he'd be perfect for Autothrusters.

If you really want to use Finn and really want a B-Wing, it seems like Ibtisam might be worth looking at. I'm not sure what to put in her Sensor slot. FCS seems obvious but it overlaps a lot with her ability (especially if you give her Wired) but AS or Sensor Jammers might be fun. It seems either Wired or PTL might be good on her as well.

Ibtisam (28)
Finn (5)
B-Wing/E2 (1)
Total: 34

... beaten to the punch. Ha.

Cassian Pilot + LW + FCS + Finn + Jyn + Title = 38pts

Action Jyn, get multiple focus tokens, since Finn works on multiple attacks.

Cassian is now basically (with agility title side) a 4/3/4/4 for 38pts

Pair him with New Han Solo (62pts to go bananas) who can start on opponents side and his LW is kicked in automatically. Or pair him with Super Dash, who can easily stay outside his range 2.

I used Cassian since he is the only pilot we know who has an EPT. Others might be even less cost and a useful ability for themselves.

Finn is nowhere near as good as adding an actual attack or agility dice.

I like Finn as a card because it's thematic, yet also a very interesting mechanical card. Especially because it actually makes the original Han Solo pilot card effective and a heavier hitter, at the cost of having to now actually fly the falcon like a proper ship and now relying on the turret.

FFG have started to show us "No, you may have a turret but we do want to make you fly effectively rather than not bother with where you are going." It gives Han options to be effective in a different way, rather than the traditional 'Fat Han' build type.

5 points is quite expensive when compared to others, however I do think he is effective and has his place. I mean there are crew we never use, there are some who only go on certain ships because they work well together. It's nothing we've not seen before. You can't stick him on anything and expect it to just work, you have to pick and choose what he goes on, an extra point of potential damage or evade is not to be sniffed at though.

Personally I think if anything this does display a problem with some people in the X-Wing community who instantly leap on something and judge it before trying it out and see how it works. You don't know for certain how well something will do until it is tested, and played.

Rey with Outmaneuver, Finn, C-3P0, Engine Upgrade, and the new title is 61 points. You also have the option of replacing C-3PO with Kanan for actions after your sloops.

Outmaneuver is pretty effective on a Falcon, especially one that can sloop and has modifiers when something is in its arc.

I imagine that you could also drop some points somewhere from a Dash Lothal build and fit Finn onto the Ghost. It'll have FCS so it'll be able to modify that extra die. That's pretty gross actually.

Finn could work on a FCS Ghost, maybe with C3PO next to it. Always one evade and an evade token, every round could increase survivability significantly.

Rey with Outmaneuver, Finn, C-3P0, Engine Upgrade, and the new title is 61 points. You also have the option of replacing C-3PO with Kanan for actions after your sloops.

Outmaneuver is pretty effective on a Falcon, especially one that can sloop and has modifiers when something is in its arc.

I imagine that you could also drop some points somewhere from a Dash Lothal build and fit Finn onto the Ghost. It'll have FCS so it'll be able to modify that extra die. That's pretty gross actually.

Good call on the outmaneuver.

Thane and Finn are having a jolly good time together

Lone wolf works very well with Finn. As long as you don't roll any natural blank results, he always gives you a blank to reroll.

The one thing that's a little odd is how much more than Rey (crew) he costs, since she's basically a comms relay for focus and only costs 2...

Finn will be fun. But if we're talking competitively, he's piping hot garbage.

But, but, he's great IF this, and IF this, and IF that. Sure.

But IF your opponent doesn't just waltz down the barrel of whatever you've got planned, then you're wasting a lot of points. He's bad.

Rey with Outmaneuver, Finn, C-3P0, Engine Upgrade, and the new title is 61 points. You also have the option of replacing C-3PO with Kanan for actions after your sloops.

Outmaneuver is pretty effective on a Falcon, especially one that can sloop and has modifiers when something is in its arc.

I imagine that you could also drop some points somewhere from a Dash Lothal build and fit Finn onto the Ghost. It'll have FCS so it'll be able to modify that extra die. That's pretty gross actually.

Finn on the Ghost is going to be a thing I think.

Bralen

r2d6

Rage

Finn

Overhaul

??

Raging Bralen actually sounds kinda cool. Cuts his dial an awful lot though, maybe spend the extra and swap ptl over rage.

Edited by Ralgon

But IF your opponent doesn't just waltz down the barrel of whatever you've got planned, then you're wasting a lot of points. He's bad.

You could say the same thing about Dengar. He seems to be working out with that arc restriction of his...

Finn will be fun. But if we're talking competitively, he's piping hot garbage.

But, but, he's great IF this, and IF this, and IF that. Sure.

But IF your opponent doesn't just waltz down the barrel of whatever you've got planned, then you're wasting a lot of points. He's bad.

Plenty of people are talking ghost, now given it works with both arcs there thats a pretty **** big barrel.

Prediction for better or worse is we'll see some fat han mk2/ rey along with something like fat ghost/biggs.

Along with the striker it seems they have good counters out there already, however it seems the aim is we get so saturated with variety of good builds flying any of the "meta" builds is still a gamble.

Rey with Outmaneuver, Finn, C-3P0, Engine Upgrade, and the new title is 61 points. You also have the option of replacing C-3PO with Kanan for actions after your sloops.

Outmaneuver is pretty effective on a Falcon, especially one that can sloop and has modifiers when something is in its arc.

I imagine that you could also drop some points somewhere from a Dash Lothal build and fit Finn onto the Ghost. It'll have FCS so it'll be able to modify that extra die. That's pretty gross actually.

Man, that Rey (with Kanan, for preference) looks like so much fun, but at 61 points...

Good call on the outmaneuver.

I've tested out a Rey with that loadout, but with Jan Ors and C-3PO with a Juke Comm Relay regen Poe.

It was pretty gnarly. It was also pretty fun to fly, you have a big incentive to get things in arc and actually play the game instead of just running away all game with your dumb turret.

Finn could work on a FCS Ghost, maybe with C3PO next to it. Always one evade and an evade token, every round could increase survivability significantly.

I was previously under the impression that you could not use c3po if there were no dice to roll.

Threepio does not trigger on a ghost even with Finn. It is almost impossible to use Finn's defensive part on anything but Rey.

The sad part is Finn doesn't work with Autothrusters.

and why wouldnt he?

That, and i dont think any rebel ships have both boost and crew so you'd have to buy EU as well. Nope!

Aha you answered your own question.

Threepio does not trigger on a ghost even with Finn. It is almost impossible to use Finn's defensive part on anything but Rey.

Actually, why? We know that cards like gunner and Vader can trigger off of a roll of zero (old blinded pilot rules) and we know you can spend mods even if the results you roll all positive (garven, keyan)

Isn't 3po the same? If I roll zero dice, I'm still in the dice rolling phase. Finn can add results to that roll, can't 3po also check for the results of that roll?