The Garbage Will Do

By streamdragon, in X-Wing

Don't know if this has been said yet but chew dose not require u to shoot the enemy that killed a ship just u get to make an attack when a friendly dies. This to me puts in on a use fell level as dengar ability as his is in ark and he shoots the attacker.

Edited by kgwradford

Don't know if this has been said yet but chew dose not require u to shoot the enemy that killed a ship just u get to make an attack when a friendly dies. This to me puts in on a use fell level as dengar ability as his is in ark and he shoots the attacker.

This took me a while to parse, I'll rewrite it.

Don't know if it has been said yet, but Chewie does not require you to shoot the enemy that killed a ship. You just get to make an attack when a friendly dies. This, to me, makes it as useful as Dengar because Dengar's ability is in arc and against the attacker.

I'm not sure I agree, I expect Dengar to trigger more often due to a finite number of wingmen. I do think it has some good potential, though.

Edited by AEIllingworth

I think the bigger question mark on Old Han is, will it be an ability that's worth paying 46 points for? He's going to have a lot of competition in that area now, with Young Han, Rey, and both Chewbaccas both giving him a run for his money.

With Sabine and a Proton Bomb in the bay and ready to go, I'd say that's definitely worth 46 points.

I disagree. Youre spending 46 points for han, 5 for proton bomb, 2 for sabine. So thats 53 points (before any other upgrades) for a one time proton bomb. And considering you have to dropcthe bomb before your maneuver you cant even dump it on anyone round one unless theyre stupid enough to move behind han.

It is a good way to herd your opponent though. Set up Han facing away from them just outside range 3. Dial in a 4K, if they follow drop the proton. If not, then you turn around and start pursuing. Throw LW/Finn on there and you're good to go.

Best part is you can fill the rest of the list with a loaded up K-wing with 3PO.

Don't know if this has been said yet but chew dose not require u to shoot the enemy that killed a ship just u get to make an attack when a friendly dies. This to me puts in on a use fell level as dengar ability as his is in ark and he shoots the attacker.

This took me a while to parse, I'll rewrite it.

Don't know if it has been said yet, but Chewie does not require you to shoot the enemy that killed a ship. You just get to make an attack when a friendly dies. This, to me, makes it as useful as Dengar because Dengar's ability is in arc and against the attacker.

I'm not sure I agree, I expect Dengar to trigger more often due to a finite number of wingmen. I do think it has some good potential, though.

And your right dengar will proc more not trying saying he doesn't he clearly will. But what I am saying is chew will have better targets most of the time to shoot the 1hp lambda that's running away. Sontir kills a z so chew get his revenge by shooting the lamda. Now that a rare case but thats what I mean is chew will be able to pic the best target on the table and thats were the power of his ablitly comes in. Not he will proc more but he will be able to pick his target. It's versirility (pretty sure I spelled that wrong) over quantity. Not saying he better just I think there on equal footing with the right lists behind them.

Edited by kgwradford

I disagree. Youre spending 46 points for han, 5 for proton bomb, 2 for sabine. So thats 53 points (before any other upgrades) for a one time proton bomb. And considering you have to dropcthe bomb before your maneuver you cant even dump it on anyone round one unless theyre stupid enough to move behind han.

With Smuggling Compartment and Burnout SLAM you can. Pull a 4K, drop the bomb and scarper! Not sure if it would be worth it mind you....

Edited by Karhedron

I disagree. Youre spending 46 points for han, 5 for proton bomb, 2 for sabine. So thats 53 points (before any other upgrades) for a one time proton bomb. And considering you have to dropcthe bomb before your maneuver you cant even dump it on anyone round one unless theyre stupid enough to move behind han.

With Smuggling Compartment and Burnout SLAM you can. Pull a 4K, drop the bomb and scarper! Not sure if it would be worth it mind you....

Proton bomb is on reveal, not an action. And if you're doing smuggling + slam to do an action bomb, you just used another several points and ditched your engine upgrade to do it. Which makes your even WORSE for ther est of the game after your one-trick bomb.

Also, you can't drop a bomb after a k-turn because you're stressed.

Edited by VanderLegion

I disagree. Youre spending 46 points for han, 5 for proton bomb, 2 for sabine. So thats 53 points (before any other upgrades) for a one time proton bomb. And considering you have to dropcthe bomb before your maneuver you cant even dump it on anyone round one unless theyre stupid enough to move behind han.

With Smuggling Compartment and Burnout SLAM you can. Pull a 4K, drop the bomb and scarper! Not sure if it would be worth it mind you....

Also, you can't drop a bomb after a k-turn because you're stressed.

Actually the real problem is that you cannot SLAM if you are stressed because it is an action. However,if you add Adrenaline Rush as your EPT, you can pull a White 4K, do a SLAM as your action. You drop the Proton Bomb when you reveal your second maneuver (no action required) so I think that this is legal.

Still not sure it is desirable but it would probably be funny to pull off at least once just for LOLs. :D

Actually the real problem is that you cannot SLAM if you are stressed because it is an action. However,if you add Adrenaline Rush as your EPT, you can pull a White 4K, do a SLAM as your action. You drop the Proton Bomb when you reveal your second maneuver (no action required) so I think that this is legal.

Still not sure it is desirable but it would probably be funny to pull off at least once just for LOLs. :D

Sadly, not legal. SLAM doesn't count as revealing a dial, so you cannot use it to drop bombs.

BTW, everyone is fixated on Finn and Han, and no one cares for the

Pat tern

Ana lizer

When execu ting a maneuver,

you may re solve the "check

pilot str ess" step after

the "perfo rm action step"

instead of before it.

Edited by Jehan Menasis

PA better be a point or it is Crap

No one is focusing on it because we already knew about it from the first article ages ago :P

Its for troll poe

Or 30 point crack T astro troll Red vets with integrated

IF it costs what it is supposed to

Tastro is already overpriced

Edited by ficklegreendice

The Tie/SF will also need the Pattern Analyzer to get more actions when taking those red hard 1 turns..

And yes I hope it is zero points, that would boost all those ships that have the tech upgrade slot. You know those ships that should be the new more better ships, thematically the prefered choice, and currently not really are...but I am afraid it is going to 2 pts.

Actually the real problem is that you cannot SLAM if you are stressed because it is an action. However,if you add Adrenaline Rush as your EPT, you can pull a White 4K, do a SLAM as your action. You drop the Proton Bomb when you reveal your second maneuver (no action required) so I think that this is legal.

Still not sure it is desirable but it would probably be funny to pull off at least once just for LOLs. :D

Sadly, not legal. SLAM doesn't count as revealing a dial, so you cannot use it to drop bombs.

BTW, everyone is fixated on Finn and Han, and no one cares for the

Pat tern

Ana lizer

When execu ting a maneuver,

you may re solve the "check

pilot str ess" step after

the "perfo rm action step"

instead of before it.

So... Does that essentially turn all of my T-70s into Tycho?!

Actually the real problem is that you cannot SLAM if you are stressed because it is an action. However,if you add Adrenaline Rush as your EPT, you can pull a White 4K, do a SLAM as your action. You drop the Proton Bomb when you reveal your second maneuver (no action required) so I think that this is legal.

Still not sure it is desirable but it would probably be funny to pull off at least once just for LOLs. :D

Sadly, not legal. SLAM doesn't count as revealing a dial, so you cannot use it to drop bombs.

BTW, everyone is fixated on Finn and Han, and no one cares for the

Pat tern

Ana lizer

When execu ting a maneuver,

you may re solve the "check

pilot str ess" step after

the "perfo rm action step"

instead of before it.

So... Does that essentially turn all of my T-70s into Tycho?!

2000% certain it'll restrict itself to red maneuvers

PA better be a point or it is Crap

No one is focusing on it because we already knew about it from the first article ages ago :P

Its for troll poe

Or 30 point crack T astro troll Red vets with integrated

IF it costs what it is supposed to

Tastro is already overpriced

Fickle, this sounded more like Warpman and his manner of speaking than yours, what with trying to coin new terms and abbreviations for pilots/upgrades. Was your account hacked?

BTW, everyone is fixated on Finn and Han, and no one cares for the

Pat tern

Ana lizer

When execu ting a maneuver,

you may re solve the "check

pilot str ess" step after

the "perfo rm action step"

instead of before it.

So... Does that essentially turn all of my T-70s into Tycho?!

2000% certain it'll restrict itself to red maneuvers

It doesn't need to. Even while switching the order, if you already have stress from a previous round, you can't perform actions nevertheless.

It would work very similarly to "Advanced Sensors".

Edited by Jehan Menasis

Yeah if thats what that tech does (and it probably is) it wont help if you already have stress.

Even if that tech is a 2pt upgrade i'd probably use it on my T70s. Never use the slot anyway and the way i play them i actually use the red moves alot so getting an action while getting a nice position is sweet.

Actually the real problem is that you cannot SLAM if you are stressed because it is an action. However,if you add Adrenaline Rush as your EPT, you can pull a White 4K, do a SLAM as your action. You drop the Proton Bomb when you reveal your second maneuver (no action required) so I think that this is legal.

Still not sure it is desirable but it would probably be funny to pull off at least once just for LOLs. :D

Sadly, not legal. SLAM doesn't count as revealing a dial, so you cannot use it to drop bombs.

BTW, everyone is fixated on Finn and Han, and no one cares for the

Pat tern

Ana lizer

When execu ting a maneuver,

you may re solve the "check

pilot str ess" step after

the "perfo rm action step"

instead of before it.

So... Does that essentially turn all of my T-70s into Tycho?!

2000% certain it'll restrict itself to red maneuvers

If it doesn't, it doesn't make a lot of difference. The only USE for it is if you're doing a red move. There's no benefit to switching the order if you're doing a green or white move.

5 points for Finn seems a bit steep.

He raises the primary and secondary of any ship that can reliably reroll.

Check again, Finn is primary only.

I meant primary and defence. Not entirely sure why I wrote secondary. Probably because I just wrote "primary and".

Actually the real problem is that you cannot SLAM if you are stressed because it is an action. However,if you add Adrenaline Rush as your EPT, you can pull a White 4K, do a SLAM as your action. You drop the Proton Bomb when you reveal your second maneuver (no action required) so I think that this is legal.

Still not sure it is desirable but it would probably be funny to pull off at least once just for LOLs. :D

Sadly, not legal. SLAM doesn't count as revealing a dial, so you cannot use it to drop bombs.

BTW, everyone is fixated on Finn and Han, and no one cares for the

Pat tern

Ana lizer

When execu ting a maneuver,

you may re solve the "check

pilot str ess" step after

the "perfo rm action step"

instead of before it.

So... Does that essentially turn all of my T-70s into Tycho?!

2000% certain it'll restrict itself to red maneuvers

If it doesn't, it doesn't make a lot of difference. The only USE for it is if you're doing a red move. There's no benefit to switching the order if you're doing a green or white move.

PTL off of PA action and then check pilot stress green to clear stress

Ah yeah, true.

I'm expecting to be limited to reds anyway, so it won't matter.

I saw a lot of people complainning about Finn, I guess expecting that card would be used for other ships as well. Sure it is expensive, but I think it is worth it for adding an extra dice for both attack and defense, what other upgrade gives you an extra dice for both? And we are talking about Millenium Falcon here, that have only 1 green dice and can be smashed by Tie swarms. Now imagine this...

Old Han Solo + Finn + Chewbacca (crew) + Old Millenium Falcon Title + Lone Wolf

You can choose to have evade as action from the Title, attack with 4 dice (5 at range 1), reroll all dices if you don't like it to try to do max damage with a chance to 1 shot a Tie. Then when you are gonna defend a swarm attack, you will have 2 green dices (3 in range 3... oO), which the blank one you can reroll with Lone Wolf and you have that evade token from the Title. It is a Tankier way to survive against a swarm. Of course, all of them need to be in your arc for Finn to trigger, but still interesting to try.

And if it is too tanky, you could replace Chewbacca (crew) with Gunner or Luke Skywalker (crew). You could replace Old Han for Rey pilot and use different crew and elite upgrade cards, so I liked all the diferent options the Millenium Falcon will have.

Finaly for the modifications, you could add Smuggling Compartment to equip Burnout Slam to avoid being in the middle of a swarm of Ties and why not Stealth Device for the additional modification that you are allowed to add? The only problem would be to keep all the swarm to be in front of your main arc for all your green dices to be ready ro roll, but you would get 3 green dices (4 at range 3... oO") if you keep your Stealth Device on and running while you are shooting down Ties one by one :P

Edited by Seabook

the sky is falling - yet again.. :rolleyes:

Yup, and threads like this reminds me why I stopped posting here nearly as much and why people like VS and others have basically left.

I keep checking the boards but until there's something more interesting then yet another 'Palp breaks the game', 'Scum is OP'ed' and 'New expansion sucks' threads to read... I just don't bother responding much.

Same. Between this and FFG not moderating the boards to keep stale odor of teenaged masculinity from permeating far too many of the threads, it's not really worth much of my time.

Would it help if I mentioned ARC 170s? :D

Actually the real problem is that you cannot SLAM if you are stressed because it is an action. However,if you add Adrenaline Rush as your EPT, you can pull a White 4K, do a SLAM as your action. You drop the Proton Bomb when you reveal your second maneuver (no action required) so I think that this is legal.

Still not sure it is desirable but it would probably be funny to pull off at least once just for LOLs. :D

Sadly, not legal. SLAM doesn't count as revealing a dial, so you cannot use it to drop bombs.

BTW, everyone is fixated on Finn and Han, and no one cares for the

Pat tern

Ana lizer

When execu ting a maneuver,

you may re solve the "check

pilot str ess" step after

the "perfo rm action step"

instead of before it.

So... Does that essentially turn all of my T-70s into Tycho?!

2000% certain it'll restrict itself to red maneuvers

If it doesn't, it doesn't make a lot of difference. The only USE for it is if you're doing a red move. There's no benefit to switching the order if you're doing a green or white move.

T-70 with Targeting Astromech and Pattern Analyser.

Do a T-Roll, gain a focus and target lock.

Suddenly it all makes sense. . .

the sky is falling - yet again.. :rolleyes:

Yup, and threads like this reminds me why I stopped posting here nearly as much and why people like VS and others have basically left.

I keep checking the boards but until there's something more interesting then yet another 'Palp breaks the game', 'Scum is OP'ed' and 'New expansion sucks' threads to read... I just don't bother responding much.

Same. Between this and FFG not moderating the boards to keep stale odor of teenaged masculinity from permeating far too many of the threads, it's not really worth much of my time.

Would it help if I mentioned ARC 170s? :D

aroo?

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the sky is falling - yet again.. :rolleyes:

Yup, and threads like this reminds me why I stopped posting here nearly as much and why people like VS and others have basically left.

I keep checking the boards but until there's something more interesting then yet another 'Palp breaks the game', 'Scum is OP'ed' and 'New expansion sucks' threads to read... I just don't bother responding much.

Same. Between this and FFG not moderating the boards to keep stale odor of teenaged masculinity from permeating far too many of the threads, it's not really worth much of my time.

Would it help if I mentioned ARC 170s? :D

aroo?

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That's disgusting!

does he have the aux arc?

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he don't :(

Edited by ficklegreendice