People forget that many X-wing matches are directly lost/won right at the deploy step.

Old Han's ability is pretty powerful.

I don't disagree.

But it also offers a powerful chance for the Old Han player to LOSE the match at turn 0 with a poor choice as well.

People forget that many X-wing matches are directly lost/won right at the deploy step.

Old Han's ability is pretty powerful.

I don't disagree.

But it also offers a powerful chance for the Old Han player to LOSE the match at turn 0 with a poor choice as well.

Absolutely true, but a skilled player will recognize the likelihood of that. Got don't HAVE to place him near the enemy, after all. For instance, I'd probably put him just out of range if an Ace, but I'd hang out on my edge and make that Crack Swarm come to me.

5 points for Finn seems a bit steep.

Yeah it seems like a high price tag for a dubious advantage. He obviously needs to be paired with stuff that lets you reroll dice. Rey, for one, also predator could be good. I can't think of a good defensive combo (maybe lone wolf? - but ehh)

Auto thrusters... But i'm not sure there's any crew + boost ships

5 points for Finn seems a bit steep.

Yeah it seems like a high price tag for a dubious advantage. He obviously needs to be paired with stuff that lets you reroll dice. Rey, for one, also predator could be good. I can't think of a good defensive combo (maybe lone wolf? - but ehh)

Auto thrusters... But i'm not sure there's any crew + boost ships

Not Rebel ones certainly. Lone Wolf and Rey are the only combos with this aspect so far. Well, POSSIBLY Flight Instructor but lol

5 points for Finn seems a bit steep.

Yeah it seems like a high price tag for a dubious advantage. He obviously needs to be paired with stuff that lets you reroll dice. Rey, for one, also predator could be good. I can't think of a good defensive combo (maybe lone wolf? - but ehh)

Auto thrusters... But i'm not sure there's any crew + boost ships

Not Rebel ones certainly. Lone Wolf and Rey are the only combos with this aspect so far. Well, POSSIBLY Flight Instructor but lol

Unless any of the unrevealed cards in HOTR also allow blank dice modification. It is possible the remaining cards are all T70 orientated but an EPT that allowed blank dice shenanigans is still a possibility.

I think the bigger question mark on Old Han is, will it be an ability that's worth paying 46 points for? He's going to have a lot of competition in that area now, with Young Han, Rey, and both Chewbaccas both giving him a run for his money.

With Sabine and a Proton Bomb in the bay and ready to go, I'd say that's definitely worth 46 points.

With Biggs he can be guaranteed to use it at least once.

Anything else is in the lap of the dice.

Exactly! It's not like you have to take a pilot that has an ability that gets spammed the whole match. This one is more about targetting priority, like New Old Han is all about Turn Zero and making the opponent second guess his starting strategy. And yeah Biggs should be autoinclude with Pissed Off Resistance Chewie. Probably Sabine's TIE with Dead Man Switch as well.

5 points for Finn seems a bit steep.

Yeah it seems like a high price tag for a dubious advantage. He obviously needs to be paired with stuff that lets you reroll dice. Rey, for one, also predator could be good. I can't think of a good defensive combo (maybe lone wolf? - but ehh)

Auto thrusters... But i'm not sure there's any crew + boost ships

Not Rebel ones certainly. Lone Wolf and Rey are the only combos with this aspect so far. Well, POSSIBLY Flight Instructor but lol

Unless any of the unrevealed cards in HOTR also allow blank dice modification. It is possible the remaining cards are all T70 orientated but an EPT that allowed blank dice shenanigans is still a possibility.

I wouldn't be surprised. Finn seems a touch too limited for his points without some other combos than Rey and Lone Wolf.

Would Finn still add a blank if your agility was 0? Would that work with c 3po? Let's say you take Rey+expose+finn+c3po?

Yes he still adds a blank.

No, that doesn't work with 3PO, becase no dice were rolled. 3PO requires you to actually roll at least one die.

Yes he still adds a blank.

No, that doesn't work with 3PO, becase no dice were rolled. 3PO requires you to actually roll at least one die.

Note that C3PO will work with a reroll, however - or any other roll of an Evade dice on your ship.

Yes he still adds a blank.

No, that doesn't work with 3PO, becase no dice were rolled. 3PO requires you to actually roll at least one die.

Note that C3PO will work with a reroll, however - or any other roll of an Evade dice on your ship.

The reroll point is eminently arguable and awaiting clarification from the devs.

(He definitely does work with Lando though)

Waiting for Resistence /SF expansion with ps 8 and PS 9 poes with sensor cluster and Finn (because the Rebel/Resistence TIEs have crew slots).

Waiting for Resistence /SF expansion with ps 8 and PS 9 poes with sensor cluster and Finn (because the Rebel/Resistence TIEs have crew slots).

Tie singular, because sabine's masterpiece is unique

Waiting for Resistence /SF expansion with ps 8 and PS 9 poes with sensor cluster and Finn (because the Rebel/Resistence TIEs have crew slots).

Tie singular, because sabine's masterpiece is unique

Yes he still adds a blank.

No, that doesn't work with 3PO, becase no dice were rolled. 3PO requires you to actually roll at least one die.

Note that C3PO will work with a reroll, however - or any other roll of an Evade dice on your ship.

The reroll point is eminently arguable and awaiting clarification from the devs.

(He definitely does work with Lando though)

I was thinking about the re-roll from Rey as a possibility. Why wouldn't it work btw if it works for Lando? Is it because a re roll may not be considered a roll?

Yes he still adds a blank.

No, that doesn't work with 3PO, becase no dice were rolled. 3PO requires you to actually roll at least one die.

Note that C3PO will work with a reroll, however - or any other roll of an Evade dice on your ship.

The reroll point is eminently arguable and awaiting clarification from the devs.

(He definitely does work with Lando though)

I was thinking about the re-roll from Rey as a possibility. Why wouldn't it work btw if it works for Lando? Is it because a re roll may not be considered a roll?

Yes. It's why you keep crits on a HLC reroll.

Interesting, thanks! I'll take it to the rules forum from here, I see there is a thread on it right now.

Also, BoShek seems really out of place in the Quadjumper expansion. Only explanation seems to be that FFG had to find a place to fit Paul's new card and that was as good a place as any.

Or another explanation could be....it's not actually BoShek? Unless there's something I missed, all we can see of the crew card name is a B and part of the next letter (which could be an o), but no way to tell that it's boshek as opposed to someone else.

Ya, it's BoShek. Polish X-wing website makes that pretty clear.

It also completed the little nuggets of info for Captured Tie, EMP Burst, and (likely) Captain Rex crew so we know what they do! Thanks Polish X-wing site and Polish translators!

Also, BoShek seems really out of place in the Quadjumper expansion. Only explanation seems to be that FFG had to find a place to fit Paul's new card and that was as good a place as any.

Or another explanation could be....it's not actually BoShek? Unless there's something I missed, all we can see of the crew card name is a B and part of the next letter (which could be an o), but no way to tell that it's boshek as opposed to someone else.

Ya, it's BoShek. Polish X-wing website makes that pretty clear.

It also completed the little nuggets of info for Captured Tie, EMP Burst, and (likely) Captain Rex crew so we know what they do! Thanks Polish X-wing site and Polish translators!

Ooh, is there a translation of that site somewhere?

Yes he still adds a blank.

No, that doesn't work with 3PO, becase no dice were rolled. 3PO requires you to actually roll at least one die.

Note that C3PO will work with a reroll, however - or any other roll of an Evade dice on your ship.

The reroll point is eminently arguable and awaiting clarification from the devs.

(He definitely does work with Lando though)

I was thinking about the re-roll from Rey as a possibility. Why wouldn't it work btw if it works for Lando? Is it because a re roll may not be considered a roll?

Yes, re-rolls are not the same thing as rolls.

Also, BoShek seems really out of place in the Quadjumper expansion. Only explanation seems to be that FFG had to find a place to fit Paul's new card and that was as good a place as any.

Or another explanation could be....it's not actually BoShek? Unless there's something I missed, all we can see of the crew card name is a B and part of the next letter (which could be an o), but no way to tell that it's boshek as opposed to someone else.

Ya, it's BoShek. Polish X-wing website makes that pretty clear.

It also completed the little nuggets of info for Captured Tie, EMP Burst, and (likely) Captain Rex crew so we know what they do! Thanks Polish X-wing site and Polish translators!

Ooh, is there a translation of that site somewhere?

The text is the same as the English article, but the card fans show more of some of the cards, so some were able to be fully spoiled by combining the info we had from the English article and the Polish article.

Here is the start of user eMeM piecing together the text of the cards I mentioned- https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/227173-squinting-at-things-so-you-dont-have-to/?p=2388030

I'm not a competitive player, so I just like to look for combos that amuse me. Finn with Rage seems like it could be fun. Particularly if they're combined with Keyan Farlander. I'd probably not even bother with FCS since I don't think anyone would allow Keyan to survive past the first shot at that point...

I think I'd just use Keyan as bait for the rest of my squad, really!

I'm not a competitive player, so I just like to look for combos that amuse me. Finn with Rage seems like it could be fun. Particularly if they're combined with Keyan Farlander. I'd probably not even bother with FCS since I don't think anyone would allow Keyan to survive past the first shot at that point...

I think I'd just use Keyan as bait for the rest of my squad, really!

Ya, you wouldn't use FCS. You would use Adv Sensors. That way, you can clear one of the stress from Rage with a green maneuver.

I think the bigger question mark on Old Han is, will it be an ability that's worth paying 46 points for? He's going to have a lot of competition in that area now, with Young Han, Rey, and both Chewbaccas both giving him a run for his money.

With Sabine and a Proton Bomb in the bay and ready to go, I'd say that's definitely worth 46 points.

I disagree. Youre spending 46 points for han, 5 for proton bomb, 2 for sabine. So thats 53 points (before any other upgrades) for a one time proton bomb. And considering you have to dropcthe bomb before your maneuver you cant even dump it on anyone round one unless theyre stupid enough to move behind han.