What's better 3 Tie Defenders or 3 firespray-31?

By devotedknight, in X-Wing

Looking for opinions.

There is absolutely no contest here. The firespray is never better, ever

Eh gotta define better

If "more competitive" imo you can't use sprays to bear the dice modifying power of

Vess + 2 glaives (crack shot and x7)

Small base higher ps AND roll to boot

Imo the aux arc and health do not come close to these advantages

While I have not played three Firesprays, I have flown three defenders. With x7, I'd much rather Defenders, especially since I can get a couple of named pilots and upgrades in as well.

A few months ago the firespray might've had a chance. A few years ago the firesprays would definitely have been better. Now? Tie defenders are the only viable list of the two. Even with out the titles.

I loved me some triple spray back in the day...

Don't think I'd ever play triple Ds but double Ds + support is certainly better so Triple Ds should be three times as good right?

:lol:

What's better shooting three times a round or shooting six times a round

3 times with more mods

Firesprays anytime! You have twice as much fire arcs and all are much, much wider. The meta is full of imperial Firesprays because of that. Forget Vessery - here comes the BOUNTY HUNTER. Everybody fears the generic BOUNTY HUNTER! Tie Defenders? Pfff ... they are so small compared to firesprays - they breake easily.

Don't think I'd ever play triple Ds but double Ds + support is certainly better so Triple Ds should be three times as good right?

Not sure if still talking about X-wing ...

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I'd love to try triple Firesprays but at current costs they are not going to be as effective as three Defenders, particularly since you can put an ace Defender in the triple list. A guy at our store has been playing two Deltas and Ryad, all with X7, Stealth Device, and it has been very challenging to beat.

Firesprays anytime! You have twice as much fire arcs and all are much, much wider. The meta is full of imperial Firesprays because of that. Forget Vessery - here comes the BOUNTY HUNTER. Everybody fears the generic BOUNTY HUNTER! Tie Defenders? Pfff ... they are so small compared to firesprays - they breake easily.

While I love the Firespray and do well (above average) with it. The ship is to slow to be any major threat. If we gave it a title card giving it a boost action using the 2 speed instead of the 1... Holy crap it would drop the Firespray right back in the game.. Just my opinion, but it would give it back the movie feel it had.

Don't think I'd ever play triple Ds but double Ds + support is certainly better so Triple Ds should be three times as good right?

Not sure if still talking about X-wing ...

Why? Did you think we were talking about tlts?

Don't think I'd ever play triple Ds but double Ds + support is certainly better so Triple Ds should be three times as good right?

Not sure if still talking about X-wing ...

Why? Did you think we were talking about tlts?

Vess + 2 glaives (crack shot and x7)

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Edited by clanofwolves

Firesprays anytime! You have twice as much fire arcs and all are much, much wider. The meta is full of imperial Firesprays because of that. Forget Vessery - here comes the BOUNTY HUNTER. Everybody fears the generic BOUNTY HUNTER! Tie Defenders? Pfff ... they are so small compared to firesprays - they breake easily.

:P

Don't think I'd ever play triple Ds but double Ds + support is certainly better so Triple Ds should be three times as good right?

Not sure if still talking about X-wing ...

Why? Did you think we were talking about tlts?

I think she's unsure if you were making a double pentendre.

Oh, you! Can one do that while spoonerism?

Vess + 2 glaives (crack shot and x7)

I'm thinking the Countess instead of Vess; wouldn't Vess want to take the D card? ...but I cannot see the triple Firespray taking apart more squads than the wicked Defender list. Two additionsl reasons: 1) the large base and 2) I only have one and don't see myself investing another....

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the D in Tie/D stands for "don't"

the reason? my name

Vess is the best defender, ito competitiveness simply because he gets the most dice mods (via his ability). Countess can get full mods via PTL, but then she doesn't also get juke

He's the best Tie/D by far too, but Tie/D is just too dicey

Don't think I'd ever play triple Ds but double Ds + support is certainly better so Triple Ds should be three times as good right?

Not sure if still talking about X-wing ...

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I'd love to try triple Firesprays but at current costs they are not going to be as effective as three Defenders, particularly since you can put an ace Defender in the triple list. A guy at our store has been playing two Deltas and Ryad, all with X7, Stealth Device, and it has been very challenging to beat.

This the exact list I've been using. Love it. This weekend I ran Vessery, Ryad (ptl,mk2) and a Delta...all with X7. Not quite as many green dice. But it hits harder.

There's enough room in the triple sprays to use the Slave One title and LRS on one and also put a tractor beam or tracer missile on another.

Still not enough to make up against those defenders unless you play dirty and block like crazy.

There's enough room in the triple sprays to use the Slave One title and LRS on one and also put a tractor beam or tracer missile on another.

Still not enough to make up against those defenders unless you play dirty and block like crazy.

Bounty Hunter + Slave I + LRS + HLC: 40 points low ps heavy hitter.

Enough room for 2 x Onyx/x7 for all ps3

Vess + 2 glaives (crack shot and x7)

I'm thinking the Countess instead of Vess; wouldn't Vess want to take the D card? ...but I cannot see the triple Firespray taking apart more squads than the wicked Defender list. Two additionsl reasons: 1) the large base and 2) I only have one and don't see myself investing another....

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the D in Tie/D stands for "don't"

the reason? my name

Vess is the best defender, ito competitiveness simply because he gets the most dice mods (via his ability). Countess can get full mods via PTL, but then she doesn't also get juke

He's the best Tie/D by far too, but Tie/D is just too dicey

The /D Title sound fun as hell, and i will try it sooner or later... but the idea of not having an evade token gives me anxiety...

I only have bad experiences with Imperial Firespray, so... NO thanks.

As Bobba, the ship is completely overrated. :P

There's enough room in the triple sprays to use the Slave One title and LRS on one and also put a tractor beam or tracer missile on another.

Still not enough to make up against those defenders unless you play dirty and block like crazy.

Bounty Hunter + Slave I + LRS + HLC: 40 points low ps heavy hitter.

Enough room for 2 x Onyx/x7 for all ps3

I thought this was Firesprays vs Defenders, not a team up! But hey that works too I guess.

There's enough room in the triple sprays to use the Slave One title and LRS on one and also put a tractor beam or tracer missile on another.

Still not enough to make up against those defenders unless you play dirty and block like crazy.

Bounty Hunter + Slave I + LRS + HLC: 40 points low ps heavy hitter.

Enough room for 2 x Onyx/x7 for all ps3

I thought this was Firesprays vs Defenders, not a team up! But hey that works too I guess.

I broke the rules :P

I don't think that 3 firesprays can be handeled as efficient as 3 Defenders. A single Spray in a list, yes please. I still like Krassis + Mangler, which is also 40 points.

This is a trick question, the answer is obviously Palp Aces.