So just a quick question an ISD with the Devastator Title could it add the blue dice after it has rolled the dice like a con fire or do you have to roll the extra blue dice when you first roll. the card reads "once per round while attacking from your front hull zone, you may add 1 blue die to your attack pool for each of your discarded defense tokens."

It is an add effect. So dice are added after the initial roll.

Does Tagge negate devastator for gaining tokens back though?

Does Tagge negate devastator for gaining tokens back though?

Yes, he removes the added die from the pool when the token is recovered, but all that means is that you have to time it a little. I've run a Tagge/Devastator fleet and they combo will with each other. You can burn through your tokens to mitigate an obscene amount of damage, retaliate with a monster shot, and then recover your brace and repeat. Mmmmmm

I though that you kept the blue dice you had gained because the token was still discarded. D8d we get clarification from the devs?

I though that you kept the blue dice you had gained because the token was still discarded. D8d we get clarification from the devs?

I don't think there has been an official faq on it yet, but we have been playing it as the same token is regained in my meta (and I think the thread in the rules forum reached that conclusion as well). We may need to attempt to summon Dras from his rules sub-section lair for confirmation...

Does Tagge negate devastator for gaining tokens back though?

Despite what anyone say here, the honest answer is that the wording is ambiguous pending an FAQ. I won't be running them paired until it is resolved.

Does Tagge negate devastator for gaining tokens back though?

I though that you kept the blue dice you had gained because the token was still discarded. D8d we get clarification from the devs?

I'v looked and looked there is no definition as to what a discarded defense token is, but Tagge reads "each friendly ship may recover 1 of its discarded defense tokens" so as I see it as you are recovering one of its discarded defense tokens and not replacing it with a new token that you would lose the extra dice because its discarded defense token is no longer discarded now if Tagge read replace instead of recover you could keep the dice but as it is worded I would say you lose the extra blue dice when you ​Recover its discarded defense tokens. this is just my interpretation of the wording and rules something from the devs would be nice.

Does Tagge negate devastator for gaining tokens back though?

Despite what anyone say here, the honest answer is that the wording is ambiguous pending an FAQ. I won't be running them paired until it is resolved.

the consensus is that we all disagree with Cactus, but cant actually prove him wrong.

armament->attack pool ->rolling -> dice modifications

so as others have said, before roling.

do not know about Tagge,

I though that you kept the blue dice you had gained because the token was still discarded. D8d we get clarification from the devs?

I don't think there has been an official faq on it yet, but we have been playing it as the same token is regained in my meta (and I think the thread in the rules forum reached that conclusion as well). We may need to attempt to summon Dras from his rules sub-section lair for confirmation...

I can't confirm something that doesn't exist.

There was somewhat of a consensus, but despite my best efforts, that means something between jack and a sack in most books...

Window for FAQ does not open until Monday, September 12. After that day, you may begin asking FFG where the FAQ is...

But anything relating to Wave 3, and Wave 4, has had no, and will not have, any clarification until at least that day.

...

Can I go home, now?

Can I go home, now?

Nope!

Can I go home, now?

Nope!

Wait. Why isn't he already at home?

Dras! Have you been posting from work again!?! You may NOT ask the forum members if you can leave work early!

Technically, Work is home.

But its more the point that people were asking Rules Questions outside of the Rules Forum, so I had to go and find the posts in question, rather than having them on my doorstep.

Does Tagge negate devastator for gaining tokens back though?

Despite what anyone say here, the honest answer is that the wording is ambiguous pending an FAQ. I won't be running them paired until it is resolved.

the consensus is that we all disagree with Cactus, but cant actually prove him wrong.

Which is exactly my point.

Does Tagge negate devastator for gaining tokens back though?

Yes, he removes the added die from the pool when the token is recovered, but all that means is that you have to time it a little. I've run a Tagge/Devastator fleet and they combo will with each other. You can burn through your tokens to mitigate an obscene amount of damage, retaliate with a monster shot, and then recover your brace and repeat. Mmmmmm

Does this mean that the blue die added remain throughout the turns? I interpreted it as 'for every defense token discarded this turn, add a blue die'. Do you mean that an ISDII with Devastator could fire 12 dice from its front once a turn indefinitely until it replaces it's defense tokens? And could it split the die into 10 and 10 per attack (if it had gunnery team)?

Does Tagge negate devastator for gaining tokens back though?

Yes, he removes the added die from the pool when the token is recovered, but all that means is that you have to time it a little. I've run a Tagge/Devastator fleet and they combo will with each other. You can burn through your tokens to mitigate an obscene amount of damage, retaliate with a monster shot, and then recover your brace and repeat. Mmmmmm

Does this mean that the blue die added remain throughout the turns? I interpreted it as 'for every defense token discarded this turn, add a blue die'. Do you mean that an ISDII with Devastator could fire 12 dice from its front once a turn indefinitely until it replaces it's defense tokens? And could it split the die into 10 and 10 per attack (if it had gunnery team)?

For every Token you have Discarded, you get +1 Die.

Which means that if you Discard all four Tokens, you are getting +4 Dice.

However there is the further restriction that it only applies to one attack per turn and only while using the Front Arc.

--Hypothetical exists beyond this point--

There are some who argue that General Tagge allows you to replace a Token (recover from being discarded) and maintain that, because the original token was discarded... Which would theoretically allow an ISD-II to be firing FOURTEEN dice at the end of the game, once per turn, out of its front arc...

But there is no clarification from FFG on this point, and I personally feel it flies in the face of logic, sense and reason to attempt to interpret it this way...

But some who do. So go figure.

--Hypothetical ends--

Does Tagge negate devastator for gaining tokens back though?

Yes, he removes the added die from the pool when the token is recovered, but all that means is that you have to time it a little. I've run a Tagge/Devastator fleet and they combo will with each other. You can burn through your tokens to mitigate an obscene amount of damage, retaliate with a monster shot, and then recover your brace and repeat. Mmmmmm

Does this mean that the blue die added remain throughout the turns? I interpreted it as 'for every defense token discarded this turn, add a blue die'. Do you mean that an ISDII with Devastator could fire 12 dice from its front once a turn indefinitely until it replaces it's defense tokens? And could it split the die into 10 and 10 per attack (if it had gunnery team)?

Yes you can add up to four dice once per turn if all four defense tokens are discarded.

No you cannot split the dice, you can only do this during one attack as it is once per turn.

Wow, that was fast. . . Thanks. Presumably they are added in the modify dice step, not rolled with the original battery armaments, yes? Can they be affected by Darth Vader as Admiral then? Or concentrate fire?

Wow, that was fast. . . Thanks. Presumably they are added in the modify dice step, not rolled with the original battery armaments, yes? Can they be affected by Darth Vader as Admiral then? Or concentrate fire?

Yes, Yes and Yes.

Because All of the Dice Modifications happen at the same time, you choose their order.