SWX58 Still missing

By Sabine, in X-Wing

I could be a campaign box, I think it will be Scum Epic, it was hinted at a long time ago and could ship a Kfdafdsfasdsx, StarViper or Scyk fix, leaving two for the future aces-style expansion.

I'm 100% sure SWX58 is not a core set or any Rogue One ship, simply because that would be strange to have SWX 58 to be R1, then SWX59-61 not R1 and again 62-63 R1.

@Scum ship in R1

Why do people think there will be a suitable Scum ship in R1? The whole OT, with gangsters, bounty hunters and so on being an important plot point, gave us... one ship, the Slave 1. A single ship. And we didn't see it do anything until Episode 2.

R1 is supposed to be a war movie, focusing on actually important struggle of the Rebellion vs Empire, not some drunken thugs on backwater planets with their barely operational freighters or unarmed space tractors.

I also can't understand how someone seeing "partisan" in the name could associate it with Scum, especially in context of a game which has a fraction called "Rebels".

Edited by eMeM

A guy I met in the pub last week assured me that the 'missing' Scum ship from Wave 10 would be the weird Purrgills from the Star Wars Rebels series:

http://www.toonzone.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/REB_IA_13134.jpg

He said that, as well as causing (but not receiving) damage in collisions with other craft, FFG have added an offensive capability not seen in the Rebels cartoon, in that these space whales can spit some kind of 'space snot' as an alternative to a laser blast.

They also get defensive and offensive dice bonuses if you buy five of them and fly them together as a 'swarm' (or 'school').

The guy in the pub did make me promise not to reveal this to anyone, so please keep it quiet, folks...

A guy I met in the pub last week assured me that the 'missing' Scum ship from Wave 10 would be the weird Purrgills from the Star Wars Rebels series:

http://www.toonzone.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/REB_IA_13134.jpg

He said that, as well as causing (but not receiving) damage in collisions with other craft, FFG have added an offensive capability not seen in the Rebels cartoon, in that these space whales can spit some kind of 'space snot' as an alternative to a laser blast.

They also get defensive and offensive dice bonuses if you buy five of them and fly them together as a 'swarm' (or 'school').

The guy in the pub did make me promise not to reveal this to anyone, so please keep it quiet, folks...

It looks like you and the guy in the pub were pretty drunk.

Gunboat.

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I also can't understand how someone seeing "partisan" in the name could associate it with Scum, especially in context of a game which has a fraction called "Rebels".

I know, I know... we are just kidding.

Or not. (imagine if those Partisans in the end of the movie betrayal the Rebels?)

Guaranteed Scum :) because the Quadjumper is the only Scum ship in wave10

Scum 14, Empire 15, Rebels 16 different ships.

I'm not sure that that is not a healthy balance. Scum, in my opinion, should be the most numerous or diverse faction. They aren't fighting a galactic civil war after all.

I really really really hope it is a £70 fix for a £15 Scum ship.

That would be proper exciting for Christmas.

My guess is a rogue 1 themed campaign/mission pack.

Ok I have a question for all those who think it is a Scum based release-

Why would they be keeping it under raps? Unless there is something Rogue One related, I don't understand why they wouldn't have given us that info already, and it looks like Rogue One is pretty clearly a Rebs vs Imps deal.

They wouldnt be keeping it under wraps. Theyd of tried like a ssensible company to get as much hype out of a scum release by previewing it at Gen Con with the rest of a not so enthusiastic wave. Hell it wou alone would have been the talk ofGencon by every FFG player,.

Hence why 58 is most certainly not a a Scum related ship.

It is likely some sort of campaign, or box set that has to do with Rogue One...but why it wasnt previewed yesterday I do not know. Also mosteverything also pointed to where FFG and other toy distributors couldnt preview any Roge One stuff until the 30th of September, so Iguess that date changed.

Ok I have a question for all those who think it is a Scum based release-

Why would they be keeping it under raps? Unless there is something Rogue One related, I don't understand why they wouldn't have given us that info already, and it looks like Rogue One is pretty clearly a Rebs vs Imps deal.

They wouldnt be keeping it under wraps. Theyd of tried like a ssensible company to get as much hype out of a scum release by previewing it at Gen Con with the rest of a not so enthusiastic wave. Hell it wou alone would have been the talk ofGencon by every FFG player,.

Hence why 58 is most certainly not a a Scum related ship.

It is likely some sort of campaign, or box set that has to do with Rogue One...but why it wasnt previewed yesterday I do not know. Also mosteverything also pointed to where FFG and other toy distributors couldnt preview any Roge One stuff until the 30th of September, so Iguess that date changed.

I agree with you for the most part. The only reason I can see it being Scum Epic is if FFG is waiting for Disney approval on it, as it is an EU design or something that Disney isn't 100% sold on they should include.

Ok I have a question for all those who think it is a Scum based release-

Why would they be keeping it under raps? Unless there is something Rogue One related, I don't understand why they wouldn't have given us that info already, and it looks like Rogue One is pretty clearly a Rebs vs Imps deal.

They wouldnt be keeping it under wraps. Theyd of tried like a ssensible company to get as much hype out of a scum release by previewing it at Gen Con with the rest of a not so enthusiastic wave. Hell it wou alone would have been the talk ofGencon by every FFG player,.

Hence why 58 is most certainly not a a Scum related ship.

It is likely some sort of campaign, or box set that has to do with Rogue One...but why it wasnt previewed yesterday I do not know. Also mosteverything also pointed to where FFG and other toy distributors couldnt preview any Roge One stuff until the 30th of September, so Iguess that date changed.

Or maybe they did not announce it because it is not ready to be revealed yet. They simply did not reach that stage of development when they can provide information of models/pilots/upgrades.

Highly doubtful Ubul.

That hasnt stopped them before. Such as Assaj Ventris in the Shadowcaster, she wasnt originally in it. same with some extra cards in some epansions being changed, like the 2 tractor beams originally slated for the Mist Hunter and instead being changed to where Impe Vets got one.

The first prevew has changed before, so that shouldnt stop them from previewing it.

Again highly doubtful it is a scum related release. Rogue One related is most likely, or even something anti-climatic like a mat.

I do think what KDubb said ight be right that if it is something Disney hasnt signed off on could be true, but again I'd think it would be something Rogue One related and not EU related in that sense.

I personally am hoping it is something to do with the new black and white Xwing shown, but maybe that will give too much of the movie away if we see it now. Remember we ended up getting Red Ace , etc from the T-70 since FFG didnt know the names of actual pilots other than Asty so maybe in this case someone important is in the bo and they cant preview it.

Highly doubtful Ubul.

That hasnt stopped them before. Such as Assaj Ventris in the Shadowcaster, she wasnt originally in it. same with some extra cards in some expansions being changed, like the 2 tractor beams originally slated for the Mist Hunter and instead being changed to where Impe Vets got one.

The first prevew has changed before, so that shouldnt stop them from previewing it.

You are talking about minor changes (one pilot, one extra upgrade card, etc). But you still need a significant amount of material to create a preview, you cannot do that if all you got is a product code and some preliminary concepts.

Highly doubtful Ubul.

That hasnt stopped them before. Such as Assaj Ventris in the Shadowcaster, she wasnt originally in it. same with some extra cards in some epansions being changed, like the 2 tractor beams originally slated for the Mist Hunter and instead being changed to where Impe Vets got one.

The first prevew has changed before, so that shouldnt stop them from previewing it.

Again highly doubtful it is a scum related release. Rogue One related is most likely, or even something anti-climatic like a mat.

I do think what KDubb said ight be right that if it is something Disney hasnt signed off on could be true, but again I'd think it would be something Rogue One related and not EU related in that sense.

I personally am hoping it is something to do with the new black and white Xwing shown, but maybe that will give too much of the movie away if we see it now. Remember we ended up getting Red Ace , etc from the T-70 since FFG didnt know the names of actual pilots other than Asty so maybe in this case someone important is in the bo and they cant preview it.

The mist hunter and shadowcaster were both fully realized expansions when they were revealed. Its not like they announced it with one pilot then weeks or months down the road changed their mind and put in assajj instead. They just used the wrong image in the announcement article when they put it up. Most likely there was originally the other pilot but it was changed sometime in the development cycle before the announcement. And the mist hunter they didn't change any actual cards, they all were fully developed for what they did, they just changed how many copies you fet of a couple of them.

If they had the product code set for sxw58 as a scum release but it was still in development and not finished yet, theyre perfectly in their rights to not announce it yet

I wonder if it's like the tiles we heard about, just something that didn't work out so they just moved on.

Highly doubtful Ubul.

That hasnt stopped them before. Such as Assaj Ventris in the Shadowcaster, she wasnt originally in it. same with some extra cards in some expansions being changed, like the 2 tractor beams originally slated for the Mist Hunter and instead being changed to where Impe Vets got one.

The first prevew has changed before, so that shouldnt stop them from previewing it.

You are talking about minor changes (one pilot, one extra upgrade card, etc). But you still need a significant amount of material to create a preview, you cannot do that if all you got is a product code and some preliminary concepts.

I doubt you would assign a product code on something before you were ready to start pushing it as a product. If all you have is preliminary concepts then you are nowhere near production, and its when your gearing up for production that you give it its production code. Don't you think they have basic concepts for every single ship in Star Wars and probably a dozen that aren't?

I wonder if it's like the tiles we heard about, just something that didn't work out so they just moved on.

Possible, but I doubt it. They advertised and even sold to distributers the tiles before canx the product line. This doesn't feel the same.

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I doubt you would assign a product code on something before you were ready to start pushing it as a product. If all you have is preliminary concepts then you are nowhere near production, and its when your gearing up for production that you give it its production code. Don't you think they have basic concepts for every single ship in Star Wars and probably a dozen that aren't?

Exacty. They wouldnt assing a product code to something that doesnt have most of it worked out yet.

It would be just still in development and not given a number until it was mostly ready (much like the Mist Hunte rand Shadowcaster- which yes only had small changes doen to them, but they were still enough to be previewed and given a product code).

And yes they likely do have about half a dozen ships or more under various stages of development. Same with a potential doen to a hundred different upgrade cards that arent ship specific under development of some sort.

Point is thinking that a scum epic ship is SKU58 is more wishful thinking on different people's part than actually anything based on substantial evidence.

I honestly admit I could be wrong on thinking its something Rogue One related, but I think it is more likely based on evidence of the TFA based releases. And I also admit I thought the U-wing or Striker was number 58 and that the other one would be at the end of the wave (661 or 62 which ever one) not both being at the end of the wave with 5 still waiting to be revealed.

I doubt you would assign a product code on something before you were ready to start pushing it as a product. If all you have is preliminary concepts then you are nowhere near production, and its when your gearing up for production that you give it its production code. Don't you think they have basic concepts for every single ship in Star Wars and probably a dozen that aren't?

I admit that I am not familiar with the product code assignment policy of FFG. I don't think you are either. My point is: it is entirely possible that there is a project in development which is not ready for announcement yet. Maybe it got pushed back due to the upcoming Rogue One. That is not as exciting as other theories about campaign boxes, Rogue One Core Sets etc, but still a possible explanation.

No way they have basic concepts for every single ship in Star Wars.

58 will be the Gungan bongo with Jar Jar crew; 8 pts, 0 crew slots. ACTION: roll one attack die for each upgrade you have with the Action header (besides this one). For every focus, you may perform that upgrade's action for free. For every crit, disable that upgrade.

It will also include the T-65 fix and Boss Nass Swinging Slobber condition cards.

I FOUND SWX58!

... not missing after all: it was behind the couch the whole time.

Could be somthing from the new season of rebels yeah? Might explain the lack of info, might be waiting for the episode with it to air.

Highly doubtful Ubul.

That hasnt stopped them before. Such as Assaj Ventris in the Shadowcaster, she wasnt originally in it. same with some extra cards in some epansions being changed, like the 2 tractor beams originally slated for the Mist Hunter and instead being changed to where Impe Vets got one.

The first prevew has changed before, so that shouldnt stop them from previewing it.

Again highly doubtful it is a scum related release. Rogue One related is most likely, or even something anti-climatic like a mat.

I do think what KDubb said ight be right that if it is something Disney hasnt signed off on could be true, but again I'd think it would be something Rogue One related and not EU related in that sense.

I personally am hoping it is something to do with the new black and white Xwing shown, but maybe that will give too much of the movie away if we see it now. Remember we ended up getting Red Ace , etc from the T-70 since FFG didnt know the names of actual pilots other than Asty so maybe in this case someone important is in the bo and they cant preview it.

You seem pretty confident and yet are using wild speculation as the basis for what you think it is.

Your reasoning for it not being a scum ship is that they would've told us by now....okay... Then we can all say with confidence that there will never be a scum epic because they haven't told us. That is the length and breadth of this reasoning, yes?

I've got no problem with a hunch that it's rogue one related but I don't understand how one bit of speculation is "highly unlikely" and another is "most likely." How much you hope for one thing has no bearing on the likelihood.

Ebon Hawk. Because nobody is expecting that, and nobody knows everything.

I'd bet on a Rogue One starter.

T-65 Partisan w/ 2x Tie Fighters... again.

And of course it will contain the new T-65 only Title (1 copy) that will never be released with any other ships... just because. :mellow: