I'd like to think your estimates are accurate, but when I check the facts here...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Yavin/Legends and here...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Endor/Legends

I see something a little different...

• MC80 Home one type Star Cruisers

Home One

Defiance

Independence

1 Unidentified

• MC80 Liberty type Star Cruisers

Liberty

Maria

Reef Home

Nautilian

• MC80 wingless Liberty type Star Cruisers

• MC80a Star Cruisers

Which can be eyeballed to be about 12+ in the movie

• Smaller Mon Calamari Star Cruisers

• Destroyers

• Carriers

• Dreadnaught-class heavy cruisers

• Manowars

Unknown number of these ships.

• Neutron Star-class bulk cruiser

Urjani

• Quasar Fire-class bulk cruiser

Flurry

• 10+ EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigates

Antares Six

Redemption

Remembrance

Valiance

Yavaris

Patience

Promise

• CR90 corvettes

Eridain

Masanya

NovaFlare

Old Republic

Pushti

Saki

Ullet

These are only the known CR90s. The ones we don't know the name of aren't listed.

• DP20 frigates

Chandi

Ensaiav

Ghorman's Honor

Mastala

Telsor

Walerv

DukeDoom

Steadfast

Same thing as with the CR90s

• GR-75 medium transports

Limnate

Luminous

Tuima

Same ^^ Especially as there are at least 20 of them visible in the movie.

• Braha'tok-class gunships

Braha'tok

Torktarak

There were in fact only 2 of them.

• Tankers

• Alderaanian gunships

Unknown number.

YT-1300 Millennium Falcon

Skyhoppers

Cargo freighters

Imperial Shuttle Tydirium

Starfighter squadrons

88th Attack Squadron

94th Fighter/Attack Squadron

Aggressor Wing

Amber Wing

Azul Squadron

Bandit Squadron

Blade Squadron

Blood Squadron

Blue 77 Squadron

Blue Squadron

Casper Squadron

Cobalt Squadron

Corona Squadron

Cracken Flight Group

Crimson Fury

Crimson Phoenix Squadron

Dagger Squadron

Dantooine Squadron

Deretta Destroyers

Dragon Squadron

Dust Squadron

Ecliptic Evaders

Exeter Squadron

Feral Group

Flying Bantha Squadron

Gavial Squadron

Gold Devils

Gold Squadron

Gray Squadron

Green Squadron

Grez Squadron

Griffon Flight Wing

H-Beta Squadron

H-Delta Squadron

Havoc Squadron

Jyn Freila's squadron

Lightspeed Panthers

Nightmare Squadron

Nomad Squadron

Oro Squadron

Phoenix Squadron

Plasma Devils

Rampant Squadron

Rascal Squadron

Red Squadron

Red Team

Renegade Flight

Rogue Squadron

Rust Squadron

Scavenger Squadron

Screamer Squadron

Shandor Squadron

Shark Squadron

Soaring Dactillions

Specter Squadron

Star Squadron

Stealth Squadron

Storm Squadron

Sundancer Squadron

Tierfon Yellow Aces

Tiger Squadron

Twilight Squadron (defected)

Ulan Squadron

Viper Squadron

Vortex Squadron

Wolf Squadron

Yellow Squadron

67 * 12 = 804 fighters.

I think, this fits my numbers pretty well

I'd like to think your estimates are accurate, but when I check the facts here...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Yavin/Legends and here...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Endor/Legends

I see something a little different...

• MC80 Home one type Star Cruisers

Home One

Defiance

Independence

1 Unidentified

• MC80 Liberty type Star Cruisers

Liberty

Maria

Reef Home

Nautilian

• MC80 wingless Liberty type Star Cruisers

• MC80a Star Cruisers

Which can be eyeballed to be about 12+ in the movie

• Smaller Mon Calamari Star Cruisers

• Destroyers

• Carriers

• Dreadnaught-class heavy cruisers

• Manowars

Unknown number of these ships.

• Neutron Star-class bulk cruiser

Urjani

• Quasar Fire-class bulk cruiser

Flurry

• 10+ EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigates

Antares Six

Redemption

Remembrance

Valiance

Yavaris

Patience

Promise

• CR90 corvettes

Eridain

Masanya

NovaFlare

Old Republic

Pushti

Saki

Ullet

These are only the known CR90s. The ones we don't know the name of aren't listed.

• DP20 frigates

Chandi

Ensaiav

Ghorman's Honor

Mastala

Telsor

Walerv

DukeDoom

Steadfast

Same thing as with the CR90s

• GR-75 medium transports

Limnate

Luminous

Tuima

Same ^^ Especially as there are at least 20 of them visible in the movie.

• Braha'tok-class gunships

Braha'tok

Torktarak

There were in fact only 2 of them.

• Tankers

• Alderaanian gunships

Unknown number.

YT-1300 Millennium Falcon

Skyhoppers

Cargo freighters

Imperial Shuttle Tydirium

Starfighter squadrons

88th Attack Squadron

94th Fighter/Attack Squadron

Aggressor Wing

Amber Wing

Azul Squadron

Bandit Squadron

Blade Squadron

Blood Squadron

Blue 77 Squadron

Blue Squadron

Casper Squadron

Cobalt Squadron

Corona Squadron

Cracken Flight Group

Crimson Fury

Crimson Phoenix Squadron

Dagger Squadron

Dantooine Squadron

Deretta Destroyers

Dragon Squadron

Dust Squadron

Ecliptic Evaders

Exeter Squadron

Feral Group

Flying Bantha Squadron

Gavial Squadron

Gold Devils

Gold Squadron

Gray Squadron

Green Squadron

Grez Squadron

Griffon Flight Wing

H-Beta Squadron

H-Delta Squadron

Havoc Squadron

Jyn Freila's squadron

Lightspeed Panthers

Nightmare Squadron

Nomad Squadron

Oro Squadron

Phoenix Squadron

Plasma Devils

Rampant Squadron

Rascal Squadron

Red Squadron

Red Team

Renegade Flight

Rogue Squadron

Rust Squadron

Scavenger Squadron

Screamer Squadron

Shandor Squadron

Shark Squadron

Soaring Dactillions

Specter Squadron

Star Squadron

Stealth Squadron

Storm Squadron

Sundancer Squadron

Tierfon Yellow Aces

Tiger Squadron

Twilight Squadron (defected)

Ulan Squadron

Viper Squadron

Vortex Squadron

Wolf Squadron

Yellow Squadron

67 * 12 = 804 fighters.

I think, this fits my numbers pretty well

Rebel DP20 Gunships List - https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/108071-cr90-imperial-version-or-proxy-miniature/?p=1115211

Rebel CR90 Corvettes List - https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/108071-cr90-imperial-version-or-proxy-miniature/?p=1110794

I really doubt all of those fighter squadrons had a full compliment of 12 fighters each.

I was mainly being thorough because it's a cool list to have.

Do all three lists add up to your 130 capital ship estimate?

...IDK, at the moment I'm to tired to check.

Looking back at my DP20 Gunship thread, I'm glad FFG added the Ordnance Tubes upgrade

as it's a cool coincidence that allowed me to simplify my design.

Having said that if the Scum Epic ship is the DP20 I'll laugh my head off.

There are plenty of pirate DP20s out there in the EU. Eg.

"'The Gunship' was the name of Niles Ferrier 's personal DP20 frigate ."

I really doubt all of those fighter squadrons had a full compliment of 12 fighters each.

I was mainly being thorough because it's a cool list to have.

Do all three lists add up to your 130 capital ship estimate?

Not even really sure a 'full compliment' is 12 fighters. That's certainly the EU standard, but nothing in canon suggests that.

There is a WIDE range, in historical usage, of what constitutes a 'squadron'. For example - USAF 'squadrons' are more commonly 18-24 fighters, while French escadrilles are just 8 fighters. Type of aircraft makes a BIG difference, though - bombers or heavier assault fighters tend to have fewer units to a squadron than superiority fighters.

The question really comes down to how the fighters are organized. Generally a squadron will be 3-4 'flights'. Seeing as how flights in Star Wars seem to usually be two pilots (lead pilot and their wingman), although 3 at times (Death Star trench runs were done in groups of 3 fighters), it seems more likely to me that the 'target' squadron strength in Star Wars is 8-11 fighters. That would also explain the Battle of Yavin's allotment of fighters - 8 Y-Wings and 22 X-Wings, with 8-11 fighters in a squadron, neatly divides into two X-Wing squadrons and one Y-Wing squadron. '12' to a squadron doesn't work at all.

I'd like to think your estimates are accurate, but when I check the facts here...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Yavin/Legends and here...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Endor/Legends

I see something a little different...

• MC80 Home one type Star Cruisers

Home One

Defiance

Independence

1 Unidentified

• MC80 Liberty type Star Cruisers

Liberty

Maria

Reef Home

Nautilian

• MC80 wingless Liberty type Star Cruisers

• MC80a Star Cruisers

Which can be eyeballed to be about 12+ in the movie

• Smaller Mon Calamari Star Cruisers

• Destroyers

• Carriers

• Dreadnaught-class heavy cruisers

• Manowars

Unknown number of these ships.

• Neutron Star-class bulk cruiser

Urjani

• Quasar Fire-class bulk cruiser

Flurry

• 10+ EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigates

Antares Six

Redemption

Remembrance

Valiance

Yavaris

Patience

Promise

• CR90 corvettes

Eridain

Masanya

NovaFlare

Old Republic

Pushti

Saki

Ullet

These are only the known CR90s. The ones we don't know the name of aren't listed.

• DP20 frigates

Chandi

Ensaiav

Ghorman's Honor

Mastala

Telsor

Walerv

DukeDoom

Steadfast

Same thing as with the CR90s

• GR-75 medium transports

Limnate

Luminous

Tuima

Same ^^ Especially as there are at least 20 of them visible in the movie.

• Braha'tok-class gunships

Braha'tok

Torktarak

There were in fact only 2 of them.

• Tankers

• Alderaanian gunships

Unknown number.

YT-1300 Millennium Falcon

Skyhoppers

Cargo freighters

Imperial Shuttle Tydirium

Starfighter squadrons

88th Attack Squadron

94th Fighter/Attack Squadron

Aggressor Wing

Amber Wing

Azul Squadron

Bandit Squadron

Blade Squadron

Blood Squadron

Blue 77 Squadron

Blue Squadron

Casper Squadron

Cobalt Squadron

Corona Squadron

Cracken Flight Group

Crimson Fury

Crimson Phoenix Squadron

Dagger Squadron

Dantooine Squadron

Deretta Destroyers

Dragon Squadron

Dust Squadron

Ecliptic Evaders

Exeter Squadron

Feral Group

Flying Bantha Squadron

Gavial Squadron

Gold Devils

Gold Squadron

Gray Squadron

Green Squadron

Grez Squadron

Griffon Flight Wing

H-Beta Squadron

H-Delta Squadron

Havoc Squadron

Jyn Freila's squadron

Lightspeed Panthers

Nightmare Squadron

Nomad Squadron

Oro Squadron

Phoenix Squadron

Plasma Devils

Rampant Squadron

Rascal Squadron

Red Squadron

Red Team

Renegade Flight

Rogue Squadron

Rust Squadron

Scavenger Squadron

Screamer Squadron

Shandor Squadron

Shark Squadron

Soaring Dactillions

Specter Squadron

Star Squadron

Stealth Squadron

Storm Squadron

Sundancer Squadron

Tierfon Yellow Aces

Tiger Squadron

Twilight Squadron (defected)

Ulan Squadron

Viper Squadron

Vortex Squadron

Wolf Squadron

Yellow Squadron

67 * 12 = 804 fighters.

I think, this fits my numbers pretty well

Rebel DP20 Gunships List - https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/108071-cr90-imperial-version-or-proxy-miniature/?p=1115211

Rebel CR90 Corvettes List - https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/108071-cr90-imperial-version-or-proxy-miniature/?p=1110794

I really doubt all of those fighter squadrons had a full compliment of 12 fighters each.

I was mainly being thorough because it's a cool list to have.

Do all three lists add up to your 130 capital ship estimate?

...IDK, at the moment I'm to tired to check.

Well with "These are only the known CR90s. The ones we don't know the name of aren't listed." I didn't mean "don't know at all" just, that these are the names of the ships taking part at the battle we know the names of.

Well I think that nearly all squadrons were at full strength. If some are not, you move them to other sqd. to make them have a full compliment.

I really doubt all of those fighter squadrons had a full compliment of 12 fighters each.

I was mainly being thorough because it's a cool list to have.

Do all three lists add up to your 130 capital ship estimate?

Not even really sure a 'full compliment' is 12 fighters. That's certainly the EU standard, but nothing in canon suggests that.

There is a WIDE range, in historical usage, of what constitutes a 'squadron'. For example - USAF 'squadrons' are more commonly 18-24 fighters, while French escadrilles are just 8 fighters. Type of aircraft makes a BIG difference, though - bombers or heavier assault fighters tend to have fewer units to a squadron than superiority fighters.

The question really comes down to how the fighters are organized. Generally a squadron will be 3-4 'flights'. Seeing as how flights in Star Wars seem to usually be two pilots (lead pilot and their wingman), although 3 at times (Death Star trench runs were done in groups of 3 fighters), it seems more likely to me that the 'target' squadron strength in Star Wars is 8-11 fighters. That would also explain the Battle of Yavin's allotment of fighters - 8 Y-Wings and 22 X-Wings, with 8-11 fighters in a squadron, neatly divides into two X-Wing squadrons and one Y-Wing squadron. '12' to a squadron doesn't work at all.

Well Red Squadron numbered from 1-12, as Rogue Group did during the battle of Hoth. And as GL was taking many things from WWII I can see the common 12 fighter size used in Star Wars if we don't look into the EU.

I really doubt all of those fighter squadrons had a full compliment of 12 fighters each.

I was mainly being thorough because it's a cool list to have.

Do all three lists add up to your 130 capital ship estimate?

Not even really sure a 'full compliment' is 12 fighters. That's certainly the EU standard, but nothing in canon suggests that.

There is a WIDE range, in historical usage, of what constitutes a 'squadron'. For example - USAF 'squadrons' are more commonly 18-24 fighters, while French escadrilles are just 8 fighters. Type of aircraft makes a BIG difference, though - bombers or heavier assault fighters tend to have fewer units to a squadron than superiority fighters.

The question really comes down to how the fighters are organized. Generally a squadron will be 3-4 'flights'. Seeing as how flights in Star Wars seem to usually be two pilots (lead pilot and their wingman), although 3 at times (Death Star trench runs were done in groups of 3 fighters), it seems more likely to me that the 'target' squadron strength in Star Wars is 8-11 fighters. That would also explain the Battle of Yavin's allotment of fighters - 8 Y-Wings and 22 X-Wings, with 8-11 fighters in a squadron, neatly divides into two X-Wing squadrons and one Y-Wing squadron. '12' to a squadron doesn't work at all.

Well Red Squadron numbered from 1-12, as Rogue Group did during the battle of Hoth. And as GL was taking many things from WWII I can see the common 12 fighter size used in Star Wars if we don't look into the EU.

Not in canon, no.

Jek Porkins was Red Nine, and Theron Nett was Red Ten...and that was it. Only 10 pilots named in Red Squadron.

Rogue Squadron is similar - only pilots up to Rogue Eleven (a callsign used, although no name was canonically associated with it). Rogue Twelve has never been used in canon.

Which basically supports the numbers I was tossing around above, based on the Battle of Yavin. IE., superiority fighters (including X-Wings) come in squadrons of 11, assault fighters (Y-Wings) in squadrons of 8.

Well Red Squadron numbered from 1-12, as Rogue Group did during the battle of Hoth. And as GL was taking many things from WWII I can see the common 12 fighter size used in Star Wars if we don't look into the EU.

Not in canon, no.

Jek Porkins was Red Nine, and Theron Nett was Red Ten...and that was it. Only 10 pilots named in Red Squadron.

We don't know there were only 10 pilots in red squadron. We actually only have canonical names (at least on wikipedia's red squadron page) for 7 of them. Jek was actually Red 6, we have no names for reds 7-9. Nothing says (to my knowledge) that there couldn't have been an 11 and 12 as well (conversely, nothing says there WAS an 11 and 12).

Rogue Squadron is similar - only pilots up to Rogue Eleven (a callsign used, although no name was canonically associated with it). Rogue Twelve has never been used in canon.

Which basically supports the numbers I was tossing around above, based on the Battle of Yavin. IE., superiority fighters (including X-Wings) come in squadrons of 11, assault fighters (Y-Wings) in squadrons of 8.

We have 6 named pilots from Rogue Group in Empire. Rogues 10 and 11 are mentioned briefly. We see Rogues 1-4 in the battle, which gives us 8 total people on 4 snowspeeders (with pilot and gunner each). If 10 and 11 were 2 more snowspeeders, that'd theoretically be another 4 people, which could be a full 12 pilot squadron in x-wings if the gunners were normally x-wing pilots. And once again, just because we haven't canonically SEEN a rogue twelve is bsaically meaningless or determining how big a squadron is. Since we haven't seen rogues 5-9 either, we can't really glean any useful information outside of the 'minimum' number of people it had.

There were only 8 Y-Wings at Yavin. In one episode, the Rebels managed to grab 5 Y-Wings (which they did say in dialog were going to that cell, so we know that 5 of those 8 definitely were the Y-Wings our intrepid heroes stole). It's not hard to imagine they had a couple on-hand, already, or that the Lothal cell manages to grab a few more over the course of the season.

Either way, they supplied most of the Y-Wings used at Yavin.

Not necessarily - those Y-Wings could have been lost in another battle and replaced before Yavin!

C2-B5 from Rogue One.

What expansion might we get it in?

SWX58 maybe?

The listing above has both Red Squadron and Rogue Squadron... so which was Wedge commanding, because I believe it was RED squadron. The only time a Rogue group has been listed so far, has been on Hoth, and they flew speeders.

http://www.starwars.com/news/inside-the-fearless-rogue-group

C2-B5 from Rogue One.

What expansion might we get it in?

SWX58 maybe?

Is it Imperial?

Sexy looking like that, it must be...

C2-B5 from Rogue One.

What expansion might we get it in?

SWX58 maybe?

Is it Imperial?

Sexy looking like that, it must be...

If you go to the linked site the answer's a pretty obvious yes:

Since they are selling the miniatures along with the other characters,

then he must have some significant place in the plot of the movie.

I think the more interesting question is what does our expansion look like.

Threre's also R2-BHD who isn't getting the same treatment.

L-1 droid.

i want 0-0-0 as a a crew member for imperials. he's pure evil

For anyone interested in fleet size and squadron composition, this thread compiles all of the known information available on fighter squadrons:

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/230568-the-definitive-call-signs-project-help/

0-0-0

Unique

Imperial Only

Crew

Once per round, before you roll 1 or more attack dice, you may guess aloud a combined total number of hit and crit results. If you roll that many combined total hit and crit results (before modifying dice), add 1 hit result.

yes please. Beetee too. And Aphra.

This is like the canon Creepio.

I'm going to have to find that comic now. 0-0-0 and BT are awesome!

Reminds me of nothing so much as the Darths & Droids party.

I'm going to have to find that comic now. 0-0-0 and BT are awesome!

Reminds me of nothing so much as the Darths & Droids party.

The running bet I have with our group is that missing numbers for X-wing and Armada are both rou Rogue One additions, and that is a ground war campaign box for surface scenarios and atmospheric rules for X-wing. I'm hoping it is anyway. Might actually have something to do with all this X-wing stuff I have.

If there is a 'withheld' stock number, then the code being rogue one related strikes me as very likely; if the ship is in some way a spoiler it makes sense (much like the TIE/fo and T-70 were withheld and added back in later).

Given that the Striker and U-wing have both been announced and a fair amount of stuff shown off, though, it makes it hard to imagine what could be considered a 'spoiler' at this point.

Oh-oh, I didn't even consider this as a possibility and I don't know why.

Is it likely, probably not, but it's not impossible.

Oh-oh, I didn't even consider this as a possibility and I don't know why.

Is it likely, probably not, but it's not impossible.

Probably on hold due to the U-Wing filling the same role (tooled-up troop transport).

Oh-oh, I didn't even consider this as a possibility and I don't know why.

Is it likely, probably not, but it's not impossible.

Probably on hold due to the U-Wing filling the same role (tooled-up troop transport).

and having the far superior wingspan

seriously, this thing ain't even trying