"The Boat" just did a red full-stop manuever

By Dengar5, in X-Wing

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37241727

9/1/2016

'Hanjin ships, cargo and sailors stranded at sea'

(they went bankrupt and Christmas season shipping is 'affected')

"The Boat" is back in the news. They ran out of galactic credits and the G-men may be holding onto wave10 until someone gets them more credits.

If you can predict when wave10 and HotR will actually arrive at game stores, you will prove to all that you are strong with the force.

Does ffg use hanjin?

Does ffg use hanjin?

These are the questions.

Well, if it's going to affect force Friday, Disney will just have to buy hanjin out.

Bad news. 540000 containers... if this is going to drag, wonder if it will affect world's economic climate, volatile and easily-frightened as it is right now.

Government bailout guys. Chill. Korean government won't lose face like this.

Bad news. 540000 containers... if this is going to drag, wonder if it will affect world's economic climate, volatile and easily-frightened as it is right now.

For reference, each year we lose 10,000 containers on see, they are not delayed they just drop into the ocean or are otherwise gone. Overall there are more than 18,000,000 containers and they d make over 200,000,000 trips per year. Those 540,000 are a significant amount, roughly 3%, so some minor influence is indeed possible. At the same time 3% the other companies should be able to adjust and just transport a tiny bit more.

Bad news. 540000 containers... if this is going to drag, wonder if it will affect world's economic climate, volatile and easily-frightened as it is right now.

For reference, each year we lose 10,000 containers on see, they are not delayed they just drop into the ocean or are otherwise gone. Overall there are more than 18,000,000 containers and they d make over 200,000,000 trips per year. Those 540,000 are a significant amount, roughly 3%, so some minor influence is indeed possible. At the same time 3% the other companies should be able to adjust and just transport a tiny bit more.

Well... that number is not really correct.

On average between 2008 and 2013 only 546 containers were lost per year. The problem is that two massive maritime cargo disaster occurred: The MOL Comfort cracked in half losing 4,700+ containers, and the MV Rena went aground in New Zealand losing 900 containers. Those numbers are still far below the widely circulated 10,000 containers per year. Adding those two disasters in rises the average containers lost to 1,679 lost per year.

Which is still well below 10,000.

Considering that the world wide shipping number is close to 120 million... 1,679 is well less than 1%.

Source: Busting ocean myths how many containers are really lost at sea?

Which seems weird, but it has lots of links to sources of information, so despite it being called 'Southern Fried Science" the content is good.

However, here is a pdf from the World Shipping Council .

Bad news. 540000 containers... if this is going to drag, wonder if it will affect world's economic climate, volatile and easily-frightened as it is right now.

For reference, each year we lose 10,000 containers on see, they are not delayed they just drop into the ocean or are otherwise gone. Overall there are more than 18,000,000 containers and they d make over 200,000,000 trips per year. Those 540,000 are a significant amount, roughly 3%, so some minor influence is indeed possible. At the same time 3% the other companies should be able to adjust and just transport a tiny bit more.

Edit: with so many corporations using just-in-time and not having real storage other then on boats, trains and trucks this can lead to production stops, giving further effects.

On the other hand, maybe just nothing exteaordinary happens.

Edited by Managarmr

Don't worry, if it does a second one in a row, we get to choose its maneuver.

Being in the shipping and freight forwarding industry, here is what I know.

Hanjinn, being the seventh largest shipping line, is going into receivership. Korea, which is where Hanjinn is based, is looking at other options to save the iconic line. The reason it has gone into receivership however is because the bank refused their loan to cover the 1.3 Trillion they owe.

So what does this mean for their containers?

Both commercial and household goods containers that are on board these vessels are being denied entry into ports unless they have pre-paid the terminal, quay rent and handling charges (normally these go on account). If they have already docked, such as in Spain, China and Singapore, the containers are being detained by customs and will not be released until all applicable charges have been received. As a further incentive, the vessel is not being allowed to leave.

This will be resolved rather quickly though because the longer they leave a vessel at birth, the higher charges they incur.

The big two, MSC and Maersk are not interested in acquiring Hanjinn but Hyundai and another freight company are in talks about acquiring "core assets."

What does this mean for FFG? Well, I hope their products are not built in in the APAC region, if they are, they need to speak to the shipping line and pay additional costs to have the container transhipped via a different carrier at the next available port.

Don't worry, if it does a second one in a row, we get to choose its maneuver.

Nominated for Post of the Year.

Just wait, the Wave 10 boat might be able to do a 1-Reverse.

It varies by boat, but in general the actual trip takes 10-12 days. So wave 9 is probably already on our shores, just waiting on customs and sorting.

It varies by boat, but in general the actual trip takes 10-12 days. So wave 9 is probably already on our shores, just waiting on customs and sorting.

My hope is that it's warehoused already and just waiting for delivery. I've heard suggestions that it might be delivered before the end of September which would imply that it cleared customs a long while ago.

Bad news. 540000 containers... if this is going to drag, wonder if it will affect world's economic climate, volatile and easily-frightened as it is right now.

Yes, that's all fine and good but will this affect when I get my little plastic spaceships? Let's keep sight of what's important here.

Government bailout guys. Chill. Korean government won't lose face like this.

You mean civilians coughing up the needed money for independent companies who cant run their business?

Similar to certain banks?

Government bailout guys. Chill. Korean government won't lose face like this.

You mean civilians coughing up the needed money for independent companies who cant run their business?

Similar to certain banks?

Eh. Probably not the place.

Self scrubbing political commentary

Edited by Squark

Don't worry, if it does a second one in a row, we get to choose its maneuver.

But The Boat's turn lasts a month....

and we can only set it to whats on its dial

which is only red stops, green 1fwd, white 2fwd, red 1bank/2bank/3bank/3fwd.

Nah. The boat has only red 1 banks and green stop.

Don't worry, if it does a second one in a row, we get to choose its maneuver.

But The Boat's turn lasts a month....

and we can only set it to whats on its dial

which is only red stops, green 1fwd, white 2fwd, red 1bank/2bank/3bank/3fwd.

well then set it to 2 forward, so it's only option next turn is some form of forward maneuver. They have to drop stress to do a full stop again, which means a 1 straight. So we're guaranteed 5 bases of movement.

The boat has to turn around and pick up the rogue one ships.

Nah. The boat has only red 1 banks and green stop.

stupid boat better not have the new U-Wing title equipped....

it did a stop, so it flipped 180. Fml