How does one adjudicate special movement rules with regards to familiars that are clearly present, yet do not have full heroic characteristics?

To give a better idea, last week we played Manor of Ravens with a group of heroes I call Spam. (all heroes and classes with familiars except for the healer, because there are no healer classes with familiars, and no healer heroes with [separate] familiars either)

In the first quest, Vyrah the Falconer was placed on the starting tile and at the beginning of the turn Skye was placed as well. There is a special rule, that allows heroes to move to another area by taking a special action and taking damage. The debate was: could Skye use the special action, even though Skye has not hit points, and cannot suffer damage?

When quest rules allow a special movement action that is necessary and there is a familiar on the board that cannot be removed and replaced by a skill (Brightblaze, Pico and Skye, particularly) would they be stuck there or can they perform the special action?

In the context of the quest rules, familiars are not heroes (it doesn't matter whether it's a non-figure like Skye or a figure like the Reanimate, neither is a figure hero by quest rules), and would not be allowed to take that special movement action.

If there is not a way for them to be placed with the hero after the hero has moved... they'd be stuck.

Out of curiosity, which quest was this? Was it the one in Nerekhall with the pit and the drainpipe?

In the context of the quest rules, familiars are not heroes (it doesn't matter whether it's a non-figure like Skye or a figure like the Reanimate, neither is a figure by quest rules ) [...]

Don't you mean neither is a hero by quest rules ?

Afaik, familiars treated as figures are not heroes in any sense other than the listed exceptions, but they are treated as figures and would qualify as figures for most quest-related things, just like a monster would, no?

But either way, in this particular case, no way, José; familiars can only perform the actions specific to them, so Skye would not be able to use anything in a quest that specifies for heroes anyway. Skye and Brightblaze would be SOL, and Pico would be a non-issue (since he can move with Ronan, unless Pico has been placed on a search token and everyone except Ronan and Pico has moved through the portal or something).

Luckmann, you totally missed the part where I scratched out "figure" and put "hero."

Manor and Ravens Mini campaign. It's the quest where you all start in the room and you have to jump out of the windows or get thrown out. I forget what it's called.

Manor and Ravens Mini campaign. It's the quest where you all start in the room and you have to jump out of the windows or get thrown out. I forget what it's called.

"Spread your wings" ?

Assuming that's it, the relevant section is:

As an action, while on the Rookery, a hero may throw himself through a window. If he does, he places his figure on a landing. Then, roll 1 red power die. That hero suffers <damage> equal to the <damage> rolled.

Assuming that's it, then no, there's no way a familiar can perform that action, since they never count as heroes in the general sense. I realize that this is silly especially in the case of Skye (it's pretty reasonable for most of all the others, really, and I don't think we actually want the granularity of some familiars taking extra damage, some taking none, etc.). But dems the rules.

So Skye wants to stay and chill out in the rookery with his homies rather than chase the beauty and the beast-esk magical furniture monster around an abandoned manor. Makes sense to me. I'd say Skye is the smart one in this scenario.

So I had it right about Skye, for the wrong reason...

But I got it wrong about Brightblaze though.

Luckily, it was the reanimate who did most of the heavy lifting (and Nanok, and Vyrah using the bow of bone...and the shadow soul.. )