Got Another Game In

By Vetnor, in Star Wars: Armada

I got to play a game of Armada on Sunday against my girlfriend, my friend, who was supposed to turn up didn't.

This was my girlfriends first game and she loved it. She used to play electronic games (Nintendo) but after exposing her to War @ Sea, Firefly The Boardgame and Armada she's really enjoying tabletop games.

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She learnt a hard lesson when she flew her raider right up and parked it in front of my Mon Karren. Other than that the game would have ended up being a draw. The main thing is that she learnt a lot on how to manoeuvre and set up her upgrades on the correct ships and is eager for her next game :-)

Good stuff!

I have been trying unsuccessfully to get my wife to play Armada (or any miniatures game) with me.

Good stuff!

I have been trying unsuccessfully to get my wife to play Armada (or any miniatures game) with me.

The trick is not to marry them. When they're your girlfriend they will do anything to get you to marry them including playing Armada with you

Forcing your gf to play with miniatures is a sure way to become single! :)

My better half's response when I ask if she wants a game of X-wing/Armada: "Hahahaha f*** no".

My better half's response when I ask if she wants a game of Pandemic/Takenoko: "I'll get the box. Do you want tea and Exploding Kittens first?".

She may not play this, but she'll play almost anything else on a tabletop. When I was at Nationals we went to the pub after day 2 and brought Firefly Fluxx and Boss Monster with us. She's a keeper.

My fiance will play Exploding Kittens and Cards Against Humanity, but anything else is pretty much not happening.

Forcing your gf to play with miniatures is a sure way to become single! :)

Marrying your gf is a sure way of becoming single and losing half of everything. :-(

I learn from my mistakes.

I was married for 17 years, before we were married my wife would go fishing, camping, shooting, 4WDing, kayaking, caving etc.

After we got married that all stopped in about a week.

P.S. I'm not forcing her. She's asking me to teach her how to play these games.

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My fiance will play Exploding Kittens and Cards Against Humanity, but anything else is pretty much not happening.

Same here. I do get the odd game of Ticket to Ride with her though

Forcing your gf to play with miniatures is a sure way to become single! :)

Marrying your gf is a sure way of becoming single and losing half of everything. :-(

I learn from my mistakes.

I was married for 17 years, before we were married my wife would go fishing, camping, shooting, 4WDing, kayaking, caving etc.

After we got married that all stopped in about a week.

P.S. I'm not forcing her. She's asking me to teach her how to play these games.

A wise man on second marriages: The triumph of hope over experience.

Careful, guys, Admiral Theia is about to come in here any minute with a massive wrecking ball and a 9' soapbox.

I've gotten my girl to play armada with me before a few times. Well... Start armada... It usually ends up me playing against myself lol. But I recently got Splendor, and she (and everyone else I've gotten to play) has loved it

Man, you are lucky, I wish my wife played Armada with me. She loves tabletop gaming but a very particular slice of it.

I'm happy to settle for her tolerating me spending as much time as I do on it Armada (and money)

A guy in our local meta actually noticed recently how heavily male the community is. I can only think of one female that is active in ours and this is apparently the case all over. I wonder if we can get any female armada community members to chime in on how we can encourage a bigger female representation in this great game?

Man, you are lucky, I wish my wife played Armada with me. She loves tabletop gaming but a very particular slice of it.

I'm happy to settle for her tolerating me spending as much time as I do on it Armada (and money)

A guy in our local meta actually noticed recently how heavily male the community is. I can only think of one female that is active in ours and this is apparently the case all over. I wonder if we can get any female armada community members to chime in on how we can encourage a bigger female representation in this great game?

Just out of curiousity, why is this necessary? Do you think there is something deliberately in place preventing them from playing?

Man, you are lucky, I wish my wife played Armada with me. She loves tabletop gaming but a very particular slice of it.

I'm happy to settle for her tolerating me spending as much time as I do on it Armada (and money)

A guy in our local meta actually noticed recently how heavily male the community is. I can only think of one female that is active in ours and this is apparently the case all over. I wonder if we can get any female armada community members to chime in on how we can encourage a bigger female representation in this great game?

My Wife says:

"Avoid Threads turning into these:"

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/228701-newbie-question-major-rhymer/

My better half's response when I ask if she wants a game of X-wing/Armada: "Hahahaha f*** no".

My better half's response when I ask if she wants a game of Pandemic/Takenoko: "I'll get the box. Do you want tea and Exploding Kittens first?".

She may not play this, but she'll play almost anything else on a tabletop. When I was at Nationals we went to the pub after day 2 and brought Firefly Fluxx and Boss Monster with us. She's a keeper.

. . . I want that. . . I so want that in my life. . .

My better half's response when I ask if she wants a game of X-wing/Armada: "Hahahaha f*** no".

My better half's response when I ask if she wants a game of Pandemic/Takenoko: "I'll get the box. Do you want tea and Exploding Kittens first?".

She may not play this, but she'll play almost anything else on a tabletop. When I was at Nationals we went to the pub after day 2 and brought Firefly Fluxx and Boss Monster with us. She's a keeper.

I have a similar situation. My wife 'has' played Armada and X-Wing before, but mostly only when she feels bad that I haven't gotten a game in a while.

However, she loves board games. We have people over at least once every weekend for late night gaming session of Firefly, Lords of Waterdeep, Dead of Winter, Pandemic, Game of Thrones, etc.

She can cook too. :D

Yes, I'm bragging a little.

Man, you are lucky, I wish my wife played Armada with me. She loves tabletop gaming but a very particular slice of it.

I'm happy to settle for her tolerating me spending as much time as I do on it Armada (and money)

A guy in our local meta actually noticed recently how heavily male the community is. I can only think of one female that is active in ours and this is apparently the case all over. I wonder if we can get any female armada community members to chime in on how we can encourage a bigger female representation in this great game?

Just out of curiousity, why is this necessary? Do you think there is something deliberately in place preventing them from playing?

Not deliberately but unfortunately the environment is not really geared to women. I want more women to play but it is intimidating for them and there is a desire for them to be in an environment with people they know. It is not always the case but it is the one thing I have heard the most.

Women are no less strategic than us but lets take the Myers Briggs MBTI personality test as an example. The INTJ personality (the Architect/ Scientist which seems to be my mindset. . .) is a heavy strategist and makes up roughly 2% of the population. In women though it has been documented as 0.8%. Different mindsets and ways of thinking since males are wired differently than females.

https://www.16personalities.com/intj-personality

Man, you are lucky, I wish my wife played Armada with me. She loves tabletop gaming but a very particular slice of it.

I'm happy to settle for her tolerating me spending as much time as I do on it Armada (and money)

A guy in our local meta actually noticed recently how heavily male the community is. I can only think of one female that is active in ours and this is apparently the case all over. I wonder if we can get any female armada community members to chime in on how we can encourage a bigger female representation in this great game?

Just out of curiousity, why is this necessary? Do you think there is something deliberately in place preventing them from playing?

Not deliberately but unfortunately the environment is not really geared to women. I want more women to play but it is intimidating for them and there is a desire for them to be in an environment with people they know. It is not always the case but it is the one thing I have heard the most.

Women are no less strategic than us but lets take the Myers Briggs MBTI personality test as an example. The INTJ personality (the Architect/ Scientist which seems to be my mindset. . .) is a heavy strategist and makes up roughly 2% of the population. In women though it has been documented as 0.8%. Different mindsets and ways of thinking since males are wired differently than females.

https://www.16personalities.com/intj-personality

Possiblity 1.

I don't want more "women" to play, just as I don't want more "men" to play. I just want more people to play and I don't really care what gender they come from. That being said, I don't feel any reason to require, suggest or put forth a movement for people's behavior to change to accomodate one group or the other, mostly because I haven't seen toxic behavior at any gamestore. I've never seen a gamer in public pull a "SHOW ME YOUR T!t5!" or anything even close. I have seen gamers smell, dress poorly, and have bad social skills; I think these are as equally off-putting to some men as they are women. But I'm not going to tell a gamer he (or she) has to bathe or to stop wearing that bleeding skull tshirt with the demons growing out of the eye-sockets, any more than I'm going to tell a woman or Jehovah's witness that she (or he) must accept said behavior. Most of the Armada players I've seen are pretty mature and respectful...

so that brings us to Possibility 2: Women just aren't into highly strategic games. I happen to think men and women are wired differently. I'm sure those differences extend to any number of things, not the least of which is what they consider entertainment. My wife watches us play Armada and thinks it's torture. I'm sure there are some women that would love Armada. I don't know what the proportion of women vs. men into strategy games is (what's the "normal" ratio); maybe it's higher than I think. I'm quite sure, however, men are not purposefully denying access to women from playing Armada.

My problem with these types of "Crusades" is that they tend to assume possibility 1 is what's going on, and they declare a Gender Priviliege Inquisition! if anyone dares suggest it has more to do with Possibility 2. And, frankly, I'm just very tired of this accusation, as I have striven* to be respectful towards all people throughout my life, men and women.

*Strived was showing a spelling error, and auto-correct suggested striven. Sound weird to me, but i'm going with it.

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My angle is that 1. I want more people to play 2. Women are clearly under-represented and therefore a target audience for #1 3. if there is an interest or a possible interest and it has been acted upon by someone female, they would have an insight into possible blockers we can watch out for as a community to help #2 happen so #1 can happen and everyone wins!

Are women "less strategic"? I'll ask my wife as she kicks my ass in a strategic game that is NOT Armada. I would say she is less open to games that require direct conflict but some of the most devious strategic thinkers I have ever played or worked with in my life have had a healthy female representation.

My angle is that 1. I want more people to play 2. Women are clearly under-represented and therefore a target audience for #1 3. if there is an interest or a possible interest and it has been acted upon by someone female, they would have an insight into possible blockers we can watch out for as a community to help #2 happen so #1 can happen and everyone wins!

Are women "less strategic"? I'll ask my wife as she kicks my ass in a strategic game that is NOT Armada. I would say she is less open to games that require direct conflict but some of the most devious strategic thinkers I have ever played or worked with in my life have had a healthy female representation.

Oh, women can be strategic but they have always been that cloak in the night types as an average. Many famous men had women behind them doing the things that the men would never consider.

The biggest obstacle for a lot of women (from what I've been told) is that Armada and tabletop miniatures gaming in general is already dominated by men and it's intimidating to be the only or one of the only women in a space. Even though the overwhelming majority of people I've encountered have been friendly and welcoming, it's still intimidating to a lot of people.

The biggest obstacle for a lot of women (from what I've been told) is that Armada and tabletop miniatures gaming in general is already dominated by men and it's intimidating to be the only or one of the only women in a space. Even though the overwhelming majority of people I've encountered have been friendly and welcoming, it's still intimidating to a lot of people.

It's why I recommend smaller environments

The biggest obstacle for a lot of women (from what I've been told) is that Armada and tabletop miniatures gaming in general is already dominated by men and it's intimidating to be the only or one of the only women in a space. Even though the overwhelming majority of people I've encountered have been friendly and welcoming, it's still intimidating to a lot of people.

So you are saying it's me and my fellow man's fault women feel intimidated because of no other reason than because we were born men? Sounds sexist to me.

The biggest obstacle for a lot of women (from what I've been told) is that Armada and tabletop miniatures gaming in general is already dominated by men and it's intimidating to be the only or one of the only women in a space. Even though the overwhelming majority of people I've encountered have been friendly and welcoming, it's still intimidating to a lot of people.

So you are saying it's me and my fellow man's fault women feel intimidated because of no other reason than because we were born men? Sounds sexist to me.

Sounds like you're really trying to get offended to me, because that's not what I'm saying.

It's no one individual's fault that we live in a society where many women often make the perfectly rational choice to avoid entering a space filled with men they don't know, any one of whom could be a jerk happy to ruin their night just because they're a woman, or who could be an outright creep. Unfortunately, that also means there's not much specific action we can take that will encourage women in general to play more Armada, other than continuing to be friendly and welcoming and not taking it personally or being a jerk when someone relates their lived experience or concerns to you.

The biggest obstacle for a lot of women (from what I've been told) is that Armada and tabletop miniatures gaming in general is already dominated by men and it's intimidating to be the only or one of the only women in a space. Even though the overwhelming majority of people I've encountered have been friendly and welcoming, it's still intimidating to a lot of people.

So you are saying it's me and my fellow man's fault women feel intimidated because of no other reason than because we were born men? Sounds sexist to me.

You know. I usually (ok ALWAYS) joke around on this forum, but this statement kinda got me a little mad. Look, I think all of us have been in environments at gaming stores where the prevailing customer is men. I've personally witnessed guys really come on a bit strong to a female presence in their stores. I've seen other stores where no one really gave a **** and just went on about their lives. Considering the current climate in America, it isn't surprising that some thought is given consideration to the fact that ....YES,guys can make women feel uncomfortable or unwelcome in this environment.

TL,DR No, it isn't all men, and no; you shouldn't look for offense where there is none intended. We're all fine here. Everything's fine. How about you?